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Kiran
Knights of Azrael The Azrael Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.26 23:55:00 -
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Read this link I found it intresting as it closely matches the lore on New Edens Warp Drive technology.
http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
197
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:03:00 -
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Thats cool i love to see a first "warp" drive ship in space. Will see how its go, damn it i wish we are already in space.... Love star trek :)
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
807
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:07:00 -
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Seems to be exactly what 'nutjobs' have been saying UFOs use to travel for decades now. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Sentamon
276
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:07:00 -
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That's pretty sweet. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Shalia Ripper
213
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:12:00 -
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Australians ruin Warp Drive for everyone -
http://www.universetoday.com/93882/warp-drives-may-come-with-a-killer-downside/ Why can't I just delete my signature CCP? WHYYYYYYY?
Signatures have consequences - Malcanis
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
807
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:26:00 -
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All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too.
"It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3728
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:27:00 -
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I remember this awesome movie that came out a while back, it was called Event Horizon
*Edit: After reading the link it sounds just like Event Horizon "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Mirima Thurander
Estrada Dynamics - Exploration and Acquisition
419
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:47:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. Math says a bumblebee CANT fly yet it dose. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Dr No Game
Android Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:49:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:Bane Necran wrote:All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. Math says a bumblebee CANT fly yet it dose.
Incorrect. Science says they can! |
Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company 3M Unlimited
22
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:51:00 -
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Dr No Game wrote:Mirima Thurander wrote:Bane Necran wrote:All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. Math says a bumblebee CANT fly yet it dose. Incorrect. Science says they can!
Ye they have gas.... |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3729
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Posted - 2012.11.27 00:54:00 -
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Ji Sama wrote:Dr No Game wrote:Mirima Thurander wrote:Bane Necran wrote:All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. Math says a bumblebee CANT fly yet it dose. Incorrect. Science says they can! Ye they have gas....
That goes with an old USMC saying... if brute force isn't working you're not using enough "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Digital Messiah
Industrial Solutions
234
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:01:00 -
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Space is a vacuum the problem isn't removing particles that occupy the space you wish to manipulate that can be done by simply funneling particles around the bubble by altering it's shape. I also assume the speed would increase the ships weight increasing its mass in space causing objects to orbit it that normally wouldn't. Aside from this is the problem of slowing down. There is very little resistance in space as was said before about it not just being an empty vacuum. The braking forces required to slow an object from faster than light travel would be so immense that you would have to counter the G's being placed upon everyone inside the craft as well. This would inevitably kill you. It is also unknown to what would happen if one was to manipulate space as we don't know what the fabric is made out of. One of the most commonly seen manipulators of space is a black hole. An object that requires the nuclear force of a star about our suns size or much larger to be constructed.
So let us just stop and think for a second. Before we go testing large and powerful devices we learn a little more about what we are manipulating. One of the greatest fears of using nuclear devices was that we would ignite the earths atmosphere. Thankfully they took the time to realize its gaseous composition could withstand the temporary exposure to such temperatures and detonated after such a time.
We live in an age of unprecedented knowledge and technological advances. Our down fall is that we lack the patience to wisely act upon its uses. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Holy One
296
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:02:00 -
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In before portal to hell and associated tears. |
Shalia Ripper
213
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:06:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too.
I was just surprised Aussie science had progressed beyond the care and feeding of babies to dingos.
Why can't I just delete my signature CCP? WHYYYYYYY?
Signatures have consequences - Malcanis
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Dr No Game
Android Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:15:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Space is a vacuum the problem isn't removing particles that occupy the space you wish to manipulate that can be done by simply funneling particles around the bubble by altering it's shape. I also assume the speed would increase the ships weight increasing its mass in space causing objects to orbit it that normally wouldn't. Aside from this is the problem of slowing down. There is very little resistance in space as was said before about it not just being an empty vacuum. The braking forces required to slow an object from faster than light travel would be so immense that you would have to counter the G's being placed upon everyone inside the craft as well. This would inevitably kill you. It is also unknown to what would happen if one was to manipulate space as we don't know what the fabric is made out of. One of the most commonly seen manipulators of space is a black hole. An object that requires the nuclear force of a star about our suns size or much larger to be constructed.
So let us just stop and think for a second. Before we go testing large and powerful devices we learn a little more about what we are manipulating. One of the greatest fears of using nuclear devices was that we would ignite the earths atmosphere. Thankfully they took the time to realize its gaseous composition could withstand the temporary exposure to such temperatures and detonated after such a time.
We live in an age of unprecedented knowledge and technological advances. Our down fall is that we lack the patience to wisely act upon its uses. Please, read the article and understand the concept before you go spewing all this nonsense next time. Nothing moves in an Alcubierre drive. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3729
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:33:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Space is a vacuum the problem isn't removing particles that occupy the space you wish to manipulate that can be done by simply funneling particles around the bubble by altering it's shape. I also assume the speed would increase the ships weight increasing its mass in space causing objects to orbit it that normally wouldn't. Aside from this is the problem of slowing down. There is very little resistance in space as was said before about it not just being an empty vacuum. The braking forces required to slow an object from faster than light travel would be so immense that you would have to counter the G's being placed upon everyone inside the craft as well. This would inevitably kill you. It is also unknown to what would happen if one was to manipulate space as we don't know what the fabric is made out of. One of the most commonly seen manipulators of space is a black hole. An object that requires the nuclear force of a star about our suns size or much larger to be constructed.
So let us just stop and think for a second. Before we go testing large and powerful devices we learn a little more about what we are manipulating. One of the greatest fears of using nuclear devices was that we would ignite the earths atmosphere. Thankfully they took the time to realize its gaseous composition could withstand the temporary exposure to such temperatures and detonated after such a time.
We live in an age of unprecedented knowledge and technological advances. Our down fall is that we lack the patience to wisely act upon its uses.
How about we just throw science against the wall and see what sticks? "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
103
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:37:00 -
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I remember in the Book "Dune" by Frank Herbert, ships moved threw space by folding it so i wonder if this guy got his idea from the book which predates this theorem. |
Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
139
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:45:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:Space is a vacuum the problem isn't removing particles that occupy the space you wish to manipulate that can be done by simply funneling particles around the bubble by altering it's shape. I also assume the speed would increase the ships weight increasing its mass in space causing objects to orbit it that normally wouldn't. Aside from this is the problem of slowing down. There is very little resistance in space as was said before about it not just being an empty vacuum. The braking forces required to slow an object from faster than light travel would be so immense that you would have to counter the G's being placed upon everyone inside the craft as well. This would inevitably kill you. It is also unknown to what would happen if one was to manipulate space as we don't know what the fabric is made out of. One of the most commonly seen manipulators of space is a black hole. An object that requires the nuclear force of a star about our suns size or much larger to be constructed.
So let us just stop and think for a second. Before we go testing large and powerful devices we learn a little more about what we are manipulating. One of the greatest fears of using nuclear devices was that we would ignite the earths atmosphere. Thankfully they took the time to realize its gaseous composition could withstand the temporary exposure to such temperatures and detonated after such a time.
We live in an age of unprecedented knowledge and technological advances. Our down fall is that we lack the patience to wisely act upon its uses.
F it and light it up. One way or theother I will see you on the other side. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
808
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:53:00 -
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Digital Messiah wrote:So let us just stop and think for a second. Before we go testing large and powerful devices we learn a little more about what we are manipulating. One of the greatest fears of using nuclear devices was that we would ignite the earths atmosphere. Thankfully they took the time to realize its gaseous composition could withstand the temporary exposure to such temperatures and detonated after such a time.
We live in an age of unprecedented knowledge and technological advances. Our down fall is that we lack the patience to wisely act upon its uses.
Considering every person on Earth since the first nuclear bombs were detonated has the radioactive isotope Strontium-90 in their bones from them, and it's been linked to the dramatic rise of leukemia and other cancers, i'd say we ****** up the nuclear bomb thing pretty badly.
I do agree we should be more cautious, but you won't find examples of it in the past. We've always just charged ahead and found the consequences later, and will probably continue to do so until we wipe ourselves out. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Aggressive Nutmeg
266
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Posted - 2012.11.27 01:59:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Bane Necran wrote:All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. I was just surprised Aussie science had progressed beyond the care and feeding of babies to dingos. Per head of population, 'Aussie science' is well ahead of American science. Although, I realise that's not setting the bar very high. :) Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3729
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:13:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:Shalia Ripper wrote:Bane Necran wrote:All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. I was just surprised Aussie science had progressed beyond the care and feeding of babies to dingos. Per head of population, 'Aussie science' is well ahead of American science. Although, I realise that's not setting the bar very high. :)
The earth is 6000 years old "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
452
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:23:00 -
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Umm.. oh, look.. bicycle tires.
Actually, I am really hoping this doesn't turn out to be a false hope on their part, and actually results in prototype Warp technology or something akin to it in the next 10 years. Maybe as few as 5, if they get lucky and don't turn NASA inside out in the process. That would be messy.
Seriously though, I am behind this and really hope it happens and I get to see it; in fact, sign me up, I'll go out there into that great unknown. ..well, maybe.. but I'd like to see it tested first and have a look at the technology and results of any and all testing before I make any serious commitments. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
452
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:29:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:Shalia Ripper wrote:Bane Necran wrote:All the experts said the math proved man would never fly, too. I was just surprised Aussie science had progressed beyond the care and feeding of babies to dingos. Per head of population, 'Aussie science' is well ahead of American science. Although, I realise that's not setting the bar very high. :) The earth is 6000 years old
..and this quote-in-quote-in-quote-in-quote shows why Alien Spacecraft shed high amounts of radioactive energy when they are traveling through Earth atmosphere. Presumably, there is a way to compensate for it. Also might explain why they are quite often seen as burning spheres.
Just based on some stuff I have seen on TV and not actual, without-a-doubt, fact. I don't spend hardly any time paying attention to Aliens, but I used to like X-Files. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
113
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:57:00 -
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Fun fact: the Alcubierre drive is a media darling that no real physicist believes to be realizable under known physics.
Alcubierre described a particular geometry of spacetime that results in what Captain Picard might call a "warp bubble", but maintaining it requires a region of spacetime with negative energy density and creating the bubble in the first place is a complete unknown. There is no known or projected way to create and maintain the necessary geometry--Alcubierre just showed that it's a valid solution for Einstein's field equations.
In other words, nope.jpg |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.11.27 03:01:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion. ISD Suvetar,-áCaptain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department We are hiring! |
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Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
452
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Posted - 2012.11.27 03:20:00 -
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Gorn Arming wrote:Fun fact: the Alcubierre drive is a media darling that no real physicist believes to be realizable under known physics.
Alcubierre described a particular geometry of spacetime that results in what Captain Picard might call a "warp bubble", but maintaining it requires a region of spacetime with negative energy density and creating the bubble in the first place is a complete unknown. There is no known or projected way to create and maintain the necessary geometry--Alcubierre just showed that it's a valid solution for Einstein's field equations.
In other words, nope.jpg
Actually, that article is just using a possible theory to explain how NASA 'might' do it. They went back to something someone cam up with years ago, and put it into the equation. There is no reason NASA would be pursuing that particular line of theory in their current development and research.
They are researching though, apparently, and have found mathematical anomalies, (for lack of a better word), which suggest the idea itself is possible, if not this particular implementation of it. They're pursuing that mathematical probability, and seeing where it leads them.
I don't know if the idea as presented, (Warp Drive itself, conceptually), is possible, but a means to travel the stars must be possible outside of familiar conventional physics.
I'd wrap my head around it, but I honestly can't. I wouldn't know where to start. I base myself almost fully in conventional earthbound realities, and have limited ability to conceive of something like a 'Warp Bubble'. Honestly, I don't have a sense it is impossible, but can't conceive of a situation in which it would be probable.
It's sort of like time travel in the sense that the idea itself is almost entirely inconceivable within the realm of what we know. This is why they are doing research; to see how it might be conceivable. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
483
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Posted - 2012.11.27 11:04:00 -
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OHGOD EVENT HORIZON ALL OVER AGAIN! [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3730
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Posted - 2012.11.27 20:30:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:OHGOD EVENT HORIZON ALL OVER AGAIN!
I totally didn't say that on the 1st page or anything "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Borascus
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
122
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Posted - 2012.11.27 20:47:00 -
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Closest I got thinking along those lines involved quantum entanglement, and the eventual bottleneck, processing speeds and media to entangle were quite lacking 5 years ago.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
518
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Posted - 2012.11.27 21:15:00 -
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WTB starship that WTFPWNBBQs a solar system upon dropping from warp. CCP, will I get Concordokkened for that? Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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