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Brooks Puuntai
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Posted - 2011.10.04 14:29:00 -
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How is nerfing one type of ship thats blatantly unbalanced turning Eve into WoW? People throw that comparison around way too much.
Just because its expensive doesn't mean it should be nerf proof. Hell if anything the ships should have never been added to the game, that way we don't have to go through this balancing act when it comes to supers ever 1-2 years.
You also have to realize that cost in the end won't matter, and if thats the basis then it will cause the super rich to have supreme power without anyway for someone else to counter. This is what we are seeing now and why they are being changed. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.04 14:33:00 -
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Mendolus wrote:Brooks, way to end the thread before it even started! Sheesh, how are the haters gonna hate now?
His argument is actually a lot better then most I've seen. |
Brooks Puuntai
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:14:00 -
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Again time and money go hand in hand when your talking about a free market and infinite materials. So long as supers can be sold openly there will be people outside of a certain alliance who will be able to make them, then turn around and sell them to those who are rich. Not only that while creating 1 super may take 6 months so long as you can make multiples at once you are in a sense removing that time barrier, since you are only limited by how much money you can invest in super production.
As far as your last comment Eve is more about Rock, Paper, Scissors. There SHOULD be balance and any one type of ship has another ship that can counter it. Your analogy to WoW again is wrong. While there is a reasonable amount of balance, there are still hardcoded limitations when it comes to balance. For example a Lvl 10 cannot kill a Lvl 60 no matter how good he is or how geared he is. Where as in Eve you can have a 100m SP pilot who's flying a BS and be killed by a 10m SP pilot in a cruiser. Why is that? Balance and the fact that more expense and bigger doesn't always mean better.
See I believe you have the same ideology that I believe CCP had when they first brought in supers. " Oh, don't worry guys they will be super expensive and take a long time to build. You won't see many of them flying around." Fast forward 6 years and we are seeing 200 man super fleets. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:37:00 -
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You do realize that supers do take months to build and are in things called CSAAs which are clearly visible? Add to the fact that POSs can be destroyed? Thats just to build the ship itself. We aren't even talking about doing the research on the BPOS, building all the Cap Components, or doing all the logistics to move it out to the POS. All of which takes a large amount of time and effort.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:02:00 -
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Thats why they should be removed(changed to tier 2 caps) or create a effective counter towards them. Nerfing them is just a short term solution.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Fun fact: there is no end-game in EVE.
Oh but there is. Many just haven't realized it yet.
Ill give you a clue.. WarGames.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:30:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Tippia wrote:Fun fact: there is no end-game in EVE. Oh but there is. Many just haven't realized it yet. Ill give you a clue.. WarGames. That is not an end-game GÇö that's how you win. Completely different thingGǪ
Generally speaking reaching the endgame means you've won.
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.04 16:42:00 -
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Shuddup |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.10.04 17:33:00 -
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Thomas Abernathy wrote:Having tested this on the Singularity server just the other day, a well tanked BS can burn out of range and warp off easily from an SC Assault. (Unless they have also stealth nerfed fighters) This was a T2 tanked BS against a Nyx with L5 across the board. So explain to me, how an SC is overpowered when it can't solo a non-noob BS?
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