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Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.03 23:42:00 -
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Being a kind hearted soul who wants to see nothing but the looked down on sucide ganker getting ahead, and incidentally taking out my more foolish competition, I have a few questions. (yes, this is a forum alt.)
What do you need, ship and weapon wise?
- Thrasher?
- M0 280 Arty? or T2?
- t1 gyros, or t2?
- Cheap damage rigs?
That kind of thing. While I'm probably sticking to destroyers for now, later would come BCs and maybe BBs. All depends on money.
What stations would be useful to have stocked up for you?
Would you use contracts to buy pre-setup ships? Just jump in and go? |

Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.03 23:59:00 -
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Suicide gankers have no honour. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.04 00:28:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:Suicide gankers have no honour.
I'd get onto making Brutix and so on, but the starting capital for that is a couple of weeks away right now.  |

Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.04 00:32:00 -
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You need skills, dedication and passion for the kill. Bitches don't know that suiciding takes loads of patience and depending on how you do it-sometimes lots of skill.
What are you planning on ganking? I have been ganking pods as part of my election promise: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Darius+lll
If you are going to be hitting anything besides Pods, shuttle and rookie ships a lone thrasher will not suffice. Sometimes you can pop some of the frigs with a nicely T2 fit Thrasher, but in general not.
Are you going to be popping miners or ships with cargo? Afk pods in Jita like a BOSS? Update your post a bit, and I can taylor my response to better suit you.
Or you can mail/convo me directly in game, I always answer every mail sent, and if I can help-or you have more questions don't hesitate to get me in game-many times I am afk but in the end I will always get back to ya-D3 |

Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.04 00:44:00 -
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Heh. I wasn't planning on ganking anything myself (yet, at least)
Just turning a small profit supporting people who gank. Tears by proxy?
Fitting out stations with fittings so people don't need to trawl over into Jita to get stuff, then bring it back out again, for people that gank in the pipes. |

Adekan Solari
CAPTAIN BLACKS ORE BRAGADE
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Posted - 2011.10.04 03:53:00 -
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I typically see either a Geddon or Apoc fitted with arty and loads of sebos for solo gate gankers. Thrashers are fairly common as well, but more en masse than the others.
Rigs are a no. Too much loss for too little gain. When you've got the lows filled with 3-4x damage mods you get 1-2 dps for each rig. BSes can get by with meta 3 guns, but thrashers will require tech 2 just to be sure. They aren't all that expensive either, I think 400k-800k per? As for gyros, I use tech 2 when I need to be sure the job is done, tech 1 when I have backup.
Note: I'm definitely no pro like D3, but these are my observations. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.10.04 03:54:00 -
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Quote:So what do Suicide Gankers need?
Balls and a wonton disregard for self preservation. "Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |

Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.04 05:13:00 -
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I'm fond of small teams of autocannon (t2 of course) fitted ruptures that cheaply sebo'd and with some cheap dmg mods work quite well for dispatching mining barges and some exhumers. Sadly this setup is hard to come by outside of jita or minmatar space. 2 ruptures can down a mackinaw within 4 seconds if they fitted right. 5 can probalby down a Hulk rather easily as well, (not sure on this, willing to try it tho) Also blaster thorax's work good as well. |

Awoxina Dojona
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:00:00 -
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dear scrub: please read the other 183 SG posts in C&P before posting a new identical question |

Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:05:00 -
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we need brutixes, lots of brutixes
stock dodixie |
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Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.04 15:31:00 -
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Awoxina Dojona wrote:dear scrub: please read the other 183 SG posts in C&P before posting a new identical question
Dear Scrag, learn to read. I see a lack of other posts about how an Indy might support suicide gankers. Teeny tiny difference there.
Weaselior wrote:we need brutixes, lots of brutixes
stock dodixie
Sure, I'd be glad to. I just need a 500 million security deposit On a more serious note, I'll check out BPC costs, run the numbers and find a nearby station that works for production.
Magnetic Field Stabilizers? Guns?
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Kriegman
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.10.05 16:04:00 -
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We need tears. How you get them is question of ISK to tear extraction ratio. |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.05 18:52:00 -
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Quote: So what do Suicide Gankers need?
an enema. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.05 23:17:00 -
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I like an audience present when I do it, provided they're not all macros it's funny watching them trip over the rocks in a mad scramble to not be next  |

Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.06 00:44:00 -
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dont forget to support the ducttape gankers as well :) almost impossible to find a cheap ruppy outside of rens E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |

Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.06 01:35:00 -
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Any station/region in particular you'd like stocked? Using locator agents to find my customers is a little extreme.
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Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 03:38:00 -
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Angry Onions wrote:dont forget to support the ducttape gankers as well :) almost impossible to find a cheap ruppy outside of rens i am going to go down to your space and start ganking people left and right for this ruppy crap |

Alikchi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 04:15:00 -
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Jenn Makanen wrote:Awoxina Dojona wrote:dear scrub: please read the other 183 SG posts in C&P before posting a new identical question Dear Scrag, learn to read. I see a lack of other posts about how an Indy might support suicide gankers. Teeny tiny difference there. Weaselior wrote:we need brutixes, lots of brutixes
stock dodixie Sure, I'd be glad to. I just need a 500 million security deposit  On a more serious note, I'll check out BPC costs, run the numbers and find a nearby station that works for production. Magnetic Field Stabilizers? Guns?
Mag stabilizers are good. Anode Neutrons and Heavy Neutron IIs. Void ammo and Caldari EMP. |

Nicolai Xperte
Smoking Hillbillys
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:49:00 -
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A noose and a high ceiling heard that works |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.06 05:56:00 -
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Nicolai Xperte wrote:A noose and a high ceiling heard that works
Naw, we can just pod them. No need to hang the people we gank  |
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Alikchi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 09:33:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Nicolai Xperte wrote:A noose and a high ceiling heard that works Naw, we can just pod them. No need to hang the people we gank 
how many have you ganked because we have gotten like a fair few of you |

Alikchi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 09:34:00 -
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actually I take that back do not click on the link I am feeling the impending smackdown from Surfin's PlunderBunny
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.06 23:52:00 -
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Why do people always bring up that I was in goons? It was only for 3 months and I had a brilliant plan of spying for bob but they already had spies in the top echelons so my plan backfired 
I just wanted to make money!
Though it has been a while, the last Hulkageddon (indeed the last one because Helicity isn't here) was where I ganked until I was ganked out and then I did some piracy in a blob. Now I play with spreadsheets and Jita on an unnamed alt (Certainly not Alotta Baggage)
*Edit: Wait, I just incriminated myself  |

Otard
Serial Squad
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Posted - 2011.10.07 04:47:00 -
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This is what you need [Video] |

AngelFood
No C0de
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Posted - 2011.10.07 21:38:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Suicide gankers have no honour.
ahaha
A goon talking about honor. hehe oh hahahahaa |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.07 23:51:00 -
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For a list of everything suicide gankers need, please see the posts in this thread. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1076
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Posted - 2011.10.08 00:11:00 -
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Here you go, an unordered list:
Adaptive Nano Plating II Damage Control II Regenerative Plating II Medium Capacitor Booster II Cap Booster 800 Small Capacitor Booster II Cap Booster 200 Large EMP Smartbomb II Large Plasma Smartbomb II Large Graviton Smartbomb II Large Proton Smartbomb II Power Diagnostic System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tractor Control Unit II Tracking Enhancer II ECCM - Magnetometric II ECCM - Ladar II ECCM - Gravimetric II ECCM - Radar II Sensor Booster II Scan Resolution Tracking Computer II Tracking Speed II Warp Disruptor II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Void L Large Sentry Damage Augementor I Garde II Gyrostabilizer II 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II Quake L Siege Missile Launcher II Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Large Ancillary Current Router I Co-Processor II Heat Sink II Heavy Pulse Laser II Conflagration M Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I Hammerhead II Medium EMP Smartbomb II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Void M Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I 425mm AutoCannon II Hail M Heavy Missile Launcher II Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator Hobgoblin II Medium Plasma Smartbomb II Medium Proton Smartbomb II Medium Graviton Smartbomb II Medium Ancillary Current Router I Brutix Rupture Thorax Vexor Hurricane Harbinger Tempest Typhoon Armageddon Dominix Raven |

Greykemp
G Tech Industries The Gallentean Business Authority
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:21:00 -
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But the MOST important thing all gankers need is the feeling of almost physical (can't use the real word in a forum) excitement from whipping on people who can't and don't fight back. It would NOT be fun for them if they actually had to risk their own necks.
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Bubba Spyalt
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:51:00 -
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Greykemp wrote:But the MOST important thing all gankers need is the feeling of almost physical (can't use the real word in a forum) excitement from whipping on people who can't and don't fight back. It would NOT be fun for them if they actually had to risk their own necks.
I think you misunderstand kind sir.
Suiciding miners is -10 friendly pve content. It's not about the miner that is ganked, they are simply the means to unlocking the hidden mini-game within eve. It's pretty simple to unlock it, let me describe the process, I''m surprised it's not on eve-survival.org.
1. Buy and fit thrasher or catalyst. 2. Find retriever in belt with cloaky alt for bookmark. 3. Use alt to fleet warp you on top of and suicide miner. This unlocks the mini game. 4. Kill the pod before concord kills you. 5. Scoop mission loot with alt and sell / reprocess as normal with missions.
It's pve content, not pvp. Anyone who says differently is selling something (probably in Dodixie local). Thank you op for the chance to clear up this common misconception.
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Greykemp
G Tech Industries The Gallentean Business Authority
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:06:00 -
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Bubba Spyalt wrote:Greykemp wrote:But the MOST important thing all gankers need is the feeling of almost physical (can't use the real word in a forum) excitement from whipping on people who can't and don't fight back. It would NOT be fun for them if they actually had to risk their own necks.
I think you misunderstand kind sir. Suiciding miners is -10 friendly pve content. It's not about the miner that is ganked, they are simply the means to unlocking the hidden mini-game within eve. It's pretty simple to unlock it, let me describe the process, I''m surprised it's not on eve-survival.org. 1. Buy and fit thrasher or catalyst. 2. Find retriever in belt with cloaky alt for bookmark. 3. Use alt to fleet warp you on top of and suicide miner. This unlocks the mini game. 4. Kill the pod before concord kills you. 5. Scoop mission loot with alt and sell / reprocess as normal with missions. It's pve content, not pvp. Anyone who says differently is selling something (probably in Dodixie local). Thank you op for the chance to clear up this common misconception.
Oh, i get it. You're just trading Thrashers and Rifters for ore. And maybe the occasional mod. with a lot of extra work thrown in for fun and games....hmmmm my orginal post stands.
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