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Serpensis
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Serpensis on 19/04/2005 19:25:15 I read this thread warning about corp-thieves, and someone mentioned "CCP will eventually turn the servers off."
And that got me thinking, what is the life expectancy for MMORPGs anyway?
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:27:00 -
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When CCP can no longer sustain EVE or the player base dwindles to nothing I guess. ----------------------------- Latrodectus hesperus
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Thalanor
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:28:00 -
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but our numbers are still growing, so i expect the end is still a while away. ----------------------------------------------
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James Raven
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:29:00 -
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Some of the less known, but older ones are still around. One of them that I know of is nearing it's 13th year of operation. The more popular ones (ones with population over 1000 different people, not accounts) can probably last a great deal of time. ---------- I'm not going to protect you from your own stupidity. I'm a space pirate, not your mother. |
Aged Fool
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Serpensis And that got me thinking, what is the life expectancy for MMORPGs anyway?
Few years I think... We are overdue
Either that, or until CCP either get bored of adding stuff (bugs, lag, content, apologys etc), or we get fed up of playing with what they throw us.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:30:00 -
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I can forsee myself being 40 playing EVE: The Bazillionth Genesis. And TBH, I would like that. I hope EVE never goes offline. And no, CCP wont shut the servers down over corp thefts, they would more readily implement countermeasures. That person is just another ****ed off victim of a smarter person. Once again proving, people dont have to fire a shot to bring your corp to it's knees. Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:32:00 -
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it'll end when TomB's nerf bat breaks
or soon (tm)
whichever comes first Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:34:00 -
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I'd say it'll be around for many years to come. I mean come on, they put up with the enormous piles of crap that get posted to the General forums, that has to be sign that they're a committed bunch.
Or that they should be. :) I'm trying hard to decide which!
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Brooke Isae
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:35:00 -
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Well for most mmog's its usually when the balance of subscribers falls off to a point where it makes the company less than enough profit to justify continuing the game.
This is a problem for the usual yawn-fest fantasy games that are all essentially clones of one another (as in they are easily subtituted by one another) and the newest fotm game draws most players.
EvE is unique and I'd say most of it's players cannot currently find what they want in any other game.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:37:00 -
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Also, the beauty and at the same time, its genious (however you spell it) is that EVE never stops evolving, never. Nor will it ever stop. Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
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Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:38:00 -
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Didn't CCP stated somewhere that EVE will be their sole product and that they rather have it to continuously evolve into a next level rather then to just replace it with EVE2?
If that's true I expect it will last a long, long time.
OMG imagine the whining of people starting this game when there will be players already playing this game for like 10 years
I think CCP will have run out of names for the new clones' names with 150M skillpoints if we're now already on 'uber omega +'
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Serpensis Edited by: Serpensis on 19/04/2005 19:25:15 I read this thread warning about corp-thieves, and someone mentioned "CCP will eventually turn the servers off."
And that got me thinking, what is the life expectancy for MMORPGs anyway?
One day the sun will explode and the earth will cease to exist as well.
Everything has a shelf life, EVE has a few more years in it, I'm sure. ------
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tobiaz Didn't CCP stated somewhere that EVE will be their sole product and that they rather have it to continuously evolve into a next level rather then to just replace it with EVE2?
If that's true I expect it will last a long, long time.
OMG imagine the whining of people starting this game when there will be players already playing this game for like 10 years
I think CCP will have run out of names for the new clones' names with 150M skillpoints if we're now already on 'uber omega +'
LOL
Imagine the new player whining that it will take them 10 years (literally) to catch up to the veterans. But it makes sense to evolve a product rather than to replace it. Look what happened to Neocron. Jeeze, did they ever mess up with Neocron2. Ran off for over a year to develop it too, when they could have been beefing up the original game.
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marioman
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: marioman on 19/04/2005 19:43:45 lol the clone names...that kracked me up (EDIT ahhh i wasnt refering to drugs when i said that lol)
anyway i believe CCP said somewhere they had 5 years of "stuff" planned as of current for EVE, again planned so we should expect atleast 5 years, possibly more (IE they could add another year of planning after each successful year so it goes on till the end of time, and hoorah! for that :D)
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:50:00 -
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Probably when EA Games goes on an aggressive take-over campaign of all game companies and in the process, destroying what made the games great due to their ignorance and desire for quick profit.
And yet another thread where I can inject my hatred for EA. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: James Raven Some of the less known, but older ones are still around. One of them that I know of is nearing it's 13th year of operation. The more popular ones (ones with population over 1000 different people, not accounts) can probably last a great deal of time.
I would think that the smaller ones could actually outlast the big ones. The big ones are usually run by major corporations. So as soon as the profits of the big games start shrinking the game will die. __________ Capacitor research |
Badshah
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Posted - 2005.04.19 19:56:00 -
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I would love to see myself playing EVE at 40, Trey, except that I'd have to shave off more than 10 years!!! In any case, I hope EVE continues until I'm 60 or so, and I hope I'm around to play it.
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Raven1x
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Posted - 2005.04.19 20:31:00 -
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I'd imagine that Eve will be around in some form until the player-base shrinks to the point where it's just not practical to keep the game going. I daresay it'd get relaunched as "Eve: The Third Genesis" or something to take advantage of advances in technology before that but that would probably be mainly cosmetic and coding optimisations.
Certainly, the game's got the potential to carry on for years (if CCP's constant nerfing doesn't eventually break the game). There's no real competitor for it, the sci-fi "ideas pool" hasn't even begun to shrink yet and there's still dozens of places for the game to go (Jovian space, atmospheric insertion, etc) so you can likely expect the game to be around for a while yet.
Unless CCP nerf instas, driving away 2/3 of the player base overnight.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.04.19 21:21:00 -
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As everyone knows, Castor was the thoughtful, silver-tongued, and mortal son of the fondly remembered Gemini, and sped along before dawn. We don't know a great deal more than that, other than that EVE was mythologized as a cash cow in the heavens.
Revelations is some time off I imagine. Perhaps it is out of time, wholly immanent, as with the Great SoonÖ.
I very much doubt we will get an occidental Covenant expansion, though it may be promised..
It should come before 64bit though, so.. ~3years until EVE:TSG competes with the beta of EVE2, or early retirement for CCP? I'm being optimistic of course.
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Hydroponica
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Posted - 2005.04.19 21:22:00 -
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2 words; Ultima Online ***********************************
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VeNT
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:18:00 -
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MUD2 is still running and thats even older than UO
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marillian
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:20:00 -
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never take my Eve away !!!!
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Belshazzur Nephilim
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:30:00 -
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Who knows for certain.
I do know that the space genre is beginning to build momentum and just as the fantasy genre has countless producers in competition for market share, so will the space genre one day.
Having said that, the only thing that CCP has to keep focus on is in providing more game content to keep ppl interested in the game for the long haul... meaning...providing content other than more ships to fly and ship modules to use, increasing customer support quality, a more stable 23/7 server, and future game patches which don't break existing functioning game items.
CCP will undoubtedly have a fight on their hands when larger companies who can produce what the player-base wants in a faster, better, and higher satisfaction manner (due to having a much larger number of graphic artists, code programmers, and with the technical know-how) just as all companies face.
CCP is doing a good job I think thus far, but when another company offers the same eye-candy as Eve provides plus planetary exploration content, ship-to-ship docking, regular quarterly content/updates,etc. then that company will take the lead and make multi-millions in revenue and CCP will struggle to survive. Let's hope that never happens.
Over the last few years there are more space genre games out than before, but not many for mmorpg's. This is an exciting time for players who enjoy the space genre such as we do.
CCP has an edge on the competition right now since they have the experience, the platform, the playerbase, and have proven themselves over time to their investors.
-------------------------- Belshazzur Nephilim O-N-C-O-R Oracles of the Nephilim
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whejl
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: bUBbLeS ¿ or soon (tm)
Love ya
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.04.19 22:42:00 -
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Seeing that EVE broke even sometime last year (I think?), it's all profit now aside from upkeep costs. Production has been paid for. They're making more now than they did the entire first year and a half.
As long as we keep playing, I don't see them ever shutting EVE down.
"If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault."
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Sleazy Cabbie
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Posted - 2005.04.19 23:23:00 -
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I can see it now.
New patch 20 years from now : "Build 10,683 Codename : Geriatric Thunder"
m0o will be renamed Glue
0.0 will be 3 sectors on the northeast corner of the map.
It will take 6 million SP and 8 months for newbies to train their learning skills and be able to play.
Gunnery will get nerfed 15 times, and have 16 new skills that take 5 years to get it %1 buff from where it was before.
We'll have 10 new missile specializations, heavy defenders, medium defenders, two-stage missiles, MIRV missiles.
Smuggling will be an actual profession, with the pinnacle being rank 5 skills called "Rectal Concealment" and "Nerve Stick Swallowing"
Level 7 Agents introduced, which you can only do with Raven, that payout 600 mil per mission. It will still involve rescuing the same girl from the same Brothel, but they will upgrade the damsel graphic to look like Shakira.
Fighting will occur only by appointment, with at least 3 weeks notice, because everyone else is still insta-jumping, logging off, and using local to make sure there is no danger before undocking.
There will be 500k subscribers, %10 of who are online at any given time, whining on the forums that the game is still too harsh because the alliances are shutting them out of the 3 0.0 systems still left in the game and thereby denying the paying customers of content.
All ship graphics disabled to boost game performance. Just pretend you're INSIDE the ship.
The Eve patcher will still look like it was coded by 5th graders as a computer science class project.
My kids will be asking me "Who the hell is Samuel L Jackson."
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.04.19 23:31:00 -
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Thats very interesting..... ------------------ What can I lose? My dignity...every single inch of it.
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Diobanemon Gluk
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Posted - 2005.04.19 23:42:00 -
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The End of Eve is when you face the end boss, as we all know the end boss is Tom B on top of a Titan saying:
"You'll never take me alive."
and
"Look at me Ma, I'm top of the worrrrrrrrrrrllllllldddddddddddddd."
Then there's a picture of a big cake with the words, you can't have all those days you wasted on eve back, love The Supreme Being.
And then you wake up in a shower and it's all been a dream.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.04.19 23:46:00 -
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Question - How can CCP prevent Corp Thieft?
Question - Don't the players decide on who is allowed in the Corp Hanger
(sorry I'm iN Q/A mode today)
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Honestheather
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Posted - 2005.04.19 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hydroponica 2 words; Ultima Online
Yes what did happen to that?
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