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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2044
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Posted - 2012.11.11 07:09:00 -
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The last skill I trained on this character finished in the middle of January 2012.
Are there skills I might train further one day? Probably. I'm not putting this character on ice, it's just that there are no skills I can train for this character that will enhance my enjoyment of the game in day to day gameplay. There are activities which I'm looking at getting involved in which will see a large number of my existing skills trained to 5, and I have a training plan which takes me close to 80M SP.
In the meantime two other characters on this account are learning to fly other types of ships and engage in other types of gameplay.
For this hisec carebear, the first 30M SP were the most useful, the 30M since then have been extending my utility in parts of the game I don't participate in much. The next 20M will be entirely focussed on one specific ship.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2044
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Posted - 2012.11.11 07:11:00 -
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MinefieldS wrote:I like these threads because they make it easy to spot the miners when they say I fly EVERY sub-cap. MWHAHAHAHA
Being able to fly a Hulk doesn't make someone a miner.
Being able to fly a Rifter doesn't make one a PvPer.
Being able to post on the forums doesn't make one literate. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
185
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Posted - 2012.11.11 07:19:00 -
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If you have 80 mil of skillpionts and waste 4 years to do it. I think you will reconsider to sell a char for sure.
Afther that i was pve pilot now iam a courier so you see things change like real life. You get tired of something you move on. Thats the fun fact of eve not bound on anything. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
173
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Posted - 2012.11.11 08:59:00 -
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Johan Civire wrote:If you have 80 mil of skillpionts and waste 4 years to do it. I think you will reconsider to sell a char for sure.
Not in the least, I've sold more than one of my former mains simply because the name didn't mesh with me anymore. It is entirely dependent on what you find important.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
740
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Posted - 2012.11.11 12:24:00 -
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The wider the variety of skills I aquire, the wider the range of play options I have. This is not a signature. |
Holy One
259
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Posted - 2012.11.11 13:37:00 -
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~78m
all sub-cap hull and weapon specs, all tanking, t2 siege dred, t2 triage carrier, blops etx.
after that I'll probably switch to a new char on my main account. I always have a replacement 'main' in training anyway.
I usually sell chars when they hit 'finished', as the isk pays for years more plex and I can enjoy the game just fine with 20-30m sp. |
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
129
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Posted - 2012.11.11 13:51:00 -
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My goal is to have level 5 in every races ship, gun, drone and tank. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac As you can see I still have a ways to go in that. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
177
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Posted - 2012.11.11 15:13:00 -
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Holy One wrote:~78m
all sub-cap hull and weapon specs, all tanking, t2 siege dred, t2 triage carrier, blops etx.
after that I'll probably switch to a new char on my main account. I always have a replacement 'main' in training anyway.
I usually sell chars when they hit 'finished', as the isk pays for years more plex and I can enjoy the game just fine with 20-30m sp.
I tended to do that myself, without the prepping a new main beforehand part... so I'd start off with a fresh char each time.
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Holy One
260
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:06:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Holy One wrote:~78m
all sub-cap hull and weapon specs, all tanking, t2 siege dred, t2 triage carrier, blops etx.
after that I'll probably switch to a new char on my main account. I always have a replacement 'main' in training anyway.
I usually sell chars when they hit 'finished', as the isk pays for years more plex and I can enjoy the game just fine with 20-30m sp. I tended to do that myself, without the prepping a new main beforehand part... so I'd start off with a fresh char each time.
Yeah I start fresh chars, I just do it on my 2nd account. Make no mistake super high powered alliance warfare is pretty ******* boring. I actually do use the 'in-training' alt for funner less pressured activites. Like faction warfare. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10684
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:23:00 -
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I guess mine will be, when I have all combat PvP related skill at level 5. Long way to go yet tbh.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
263
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:28:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:I shoot people/Sanshas for a living, but for some unknown reason I have the Mining Barge skill at level 5.
Havn't i seen you out looking for PvP in a combat Skiff? Explains Mining 5 :P
If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
It'sNotMyFaultYourMother ThrewYouAway
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:40:00 -
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Unless they do something about clone costs (which atm are ridicilous at higher levels) I'm probably going to aim my chars so I stop training them at the 92,5m clone. I figure I can max out all relevant subcap ships within that. Of course this would mean making some choices, skipping a few such as maybe command ships which I don't have yet. But for the time beeing that seems like a viable choice. If I gotta pay 30m per clone just to PVP that kindof kills the fun of grabbing a random cruiser / battlecruiser, running off in to deep 0.0, killing random people and taking the pod express back home.
Hopefully as more and more people reach that point CCP will take a look at it and reduce the clone prices though. |
Beckie DeLey
Living From Scraps
152
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Posted - 2012.11.11 18:47:00 -
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I like to do all kinds of things in EVE instead of settling for one profession. That's why i'll probably never stop training new stuff on this char.
Btw, i don't see why people seem to moan a lot about their clone costs. Seems to me that people with that amount of skillpoints should be easily able to fund their occasional clone loss here and there... How do you even lose your clone so often if you are not an interceptor pilot? *shrug* Clonecosts are kind of a non-issue, considering how much ISK are in the wallets of players. So... i started an industry blog at www.derbk.com/eve There i am preparing a guide to all things related to manufacturing. Check it out!
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
180
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Posted - 2012.11.11 19:28:00 -
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Well, there are two kinds of rich people:
The kind that earned it and know the value of their money and the kind that got lucky and like to blow it on everything they can.
Being a trillionaire, doesn't make clone costs insignificant.
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It'sNotMyFaultYourMother ThrewYouAway
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.11 19:54:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Well, there are two kinds of rich people:
The kind that earned it and know the value of their money and the kind that got lucky and like to blow it on everything they can.
Being a trillionaire, doesn't make clone costs insignificant.
Actually there's four kinds of rich people.
1. The ones who make smart choices and invest their money to make more money, creating a good cash flow. 2. The ones who simply save everything they find all the time and never spend. 3. The ones who get lucky. Then spend it all as fast as they can.
4. The ones who make smart choices and invest their money to make more money, then offer to invest other peoples money to make even more money themselves, then create an ingame bank. And rob it |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
705
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Posted - 2012.11.13 11:42:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Clearly you've never been involved in Fleet warfare....
Yes, I have. I guess that's the exception that proves the rule. Fortunately big fleet fights don't happen every night, or at least you don't get primaried in every single one - unless of course you're the FC :) |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
921
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Posted - 2012.11.13 11:47:00 -
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It'sNotMyFaultYourMother ThrewYouAway wrote:1. The ones who make smart choices and invest their money to make more money, creating a good cash flow. 2. The ones who simply save everything they find all the time and never spend. 3. The ones who get lucky. Then spend it all as fast as they can.
4. The ones who make smart choices and invest their money to make more money, then offer to invest other peoples money to make even more money themselves, then create an ingame bank. And rob it
I have a little trouble with your post. You're talking about isk in some internet space ship game, not "money".
If you really want to make more money and be smart with it, start by stop playing internet space ships games and spend more time at work brb |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
189
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Posted - 2012.11.13 11:49:00 -
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No job ever made anyone rich.
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flakeys
Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation
422
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:49:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Well, I'm not talking about skills you should train to do what you already do, even if you don't use them often. I'm talking about totally unrelated skills. Like, for a trader, those probing skills are entirely useless.
I've been a trader so got lots of trade skills I've been a producer so got lots of production skills I've been a researcher so got lots of research skills I've been a wormhole/plex scanner so got lots of scan skills I've been a pve player so got lots of pve skills I've been pvp player so got lots of pvp skills I've flown carrier/rorqual / jf's so .......
You should get the point now.Not everyone focusses their char on one thing and sells it to buy another char when he changes his path in eve.I allways flown with this char and would never sell it so yes any skill can and will be relevant at some point in time , it makes you verry flexible ........ well just not PI , never gonna do that :)
And there is SO much i still want/need to train .... There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed.-á |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
189
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:22:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Well, I'm not talking about skills you should train to do what you already do, even if you don't use them often. I'm talking about totally unrelated skills. Like, for a trader, those probing skills are entirely useless. I've been a trader so got lots of trade skills I've been a producer so got lots of production skills I've been a researcher so got lots of research skills I've been a wormhole/plex scanner so got lots of scan skills I've been a pve player so got lots of pve skills I've been pvp player so got lots of pvp skills I've flown carrier/rorqual / jf's so ....... You should get the point now.Not everyone focusses their char on one thing and sells it to buy another char when he changes his path in eve.I allways flown with this char and would never sell it so yes any skill can and will be relevant at some point in time , it makes you verry flexible ........ well just not PI , never gonna do that :) And there is SO much i still want/need to train ....
Well no, you didn't get the point. Your Skill Terminus is much higher than mine, but you have one.
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Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
46
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:23:00 -
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I always want to train more skills but I am concerned about the cost of clone replacements in the future. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1011
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:24:00 -
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My only skill terminus is the one set by CCP in the amount of skills that I could train before there's nothing left. Not everyone is a pleb that is afraid of clone costs. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
302
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:46:00 -
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... But you never know when a titan pilot will hit "eject" by accident. |
Unit CA108AF
Unit Commune Celestial Imperative
2
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Posted - 2012.11.14 14:10:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Basically have you or will you reach a point where you will probably just stop training more skills? Generally when I get to that point with a character, I've sold them. I'm trying to change that though, but I'm not one one to just train something to be training something.
So what is your Skill Terminus if there is one? Why would or why wouldn't you train skills you will never use?
Why in god's name would anyone stop training skills?? |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
194
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Posted - 2012.11.14 16:20:00 -
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Unit CA108AF wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Basically have you or will you reach a point where you will probably just stop training more skills? Generally when I get to that point with a character, I've sold them. I'm trying to change that though, but I'm not one one to just train something to be training something.
So what is your Skill Terminus if there is one? Why would or why wouldn't you train skills you will never use? Why in god's name would anyone stop training skills??
Are you going to train for all Carriers, Dreads, and Titans?
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
405
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Posted - 2012.11.14 17:16:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Basically have you or will you reach a point where you will probably just stop training more skills? Generally when I get to that point with a character, I've sold them. I'm trying to change that though, but I'm not one one to just train something to be training something.
So what is your Skill Terminus if there is one? Why would or why wouldn't you train skills you will never use?
I stopped training skills on my main at about 75 mil SPs) when I could fly all 4 carriers and dreadnaughts (screw supercaps till yo can dock them somewhere), then I started training a cyno alt on that account, but then found I needed another hauler/transport/frieghter toon so I started him on that.
By then i realized he was too valuable to use as a cyno toon (I might forget to upgrade clone) at which point I used the 3rd slot on that account for a cyno toon, when I discovered I wanted another toon for faction warfare and eventually incursions....
It;s a vicious cycle, and CCP planned the whole thing. They are devious mostly icelandic bastards.
CCP Gargant:-á this game requires a certain amount of simply going out there and chatting with people. You will get scammed, destroyed, cheated, trolled, and blown up but that is just a part of the essence of this game. -á |
MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
601
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Posted - 2012.11.14 17:31:00 -
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I have a fairly diverse skill layout, but I am at the point where I am training things 'just because'. Logistics? Yep, just because. Command Ship? Yep, just because. I'm to the point now where I'll probably go back and learn the other weapons systems next. November 6th, 2012 "With this in mind, it becomes quite obvious to focus on training the Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills before the change to get the maximum return effect. We highly recommend you start doing so now." --á CCP Ytterbium from:-áhttp://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73530 |
Dessau
78
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Posted - 2012.11.14 18:07:00 -
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Terminus: all Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar Frigates, Destroyers, Cruisers, including all T2 variants, plus related weapon systems and associated supports, trained to V.
After that I think I will roll a drug lab operator.
Solo is one player, one pilot. |
Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
86
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Posted - 2012.11.14 18:58:00 -
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I don't have one, if I did it'd be purely theoretical mostly because I'd have to settle down and actually focus on something before having to start making decisions about omg I don't have anything left to train... But I train four char alternately, so it's always one indy type and one pvp/mission type.
So basically, no worries, I'm easily not going to achieve everything I "want" for a long while (this is a good thing). |
MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
604
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Posted - 2012.11.16 00:51:00 -
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Actually, having just watched RUBBER:
Why did I train Logi? No reason. Why did I train Command Ships? No reason. Why, dispite the fact that I am a generally solo play with a growing level of apathy towards the game I continue to train skills that are group based because I can? No reason. November 6th, 2012 "With this in mind, it becomes quite obvious to focus on training the Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills before the change to get the maximum return effect. We highly recommend you start doing so now." --á CCP Ytterbium from:-áhttp://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73530 |
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