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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.04.09 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 09/04/2005 14:26:44
www.BIG-EVE.com
A year and a half ago I made this post : The BIG Deal
How time flies.
Back then I had never dreamed that The BIG Deal would grow into the huge huge thing it is today. Back then I had some wild ideas about (maybe) someday beeing able to announce that we had sold 10 shares of each Battleship BPo (80 shares total).
That thought was almost heretic, as the amount of ISK involved was unheard of back than - Only 3 months after the opening of the EVE universe.
And to think that someone would simply hand over that kind of ISK to someone else, simply based on their word... Heretic indeed.
Now, 1.5 years, or 18 months, later, we've surpassed that 'dream' many times over - It now seems almost but a 'humble' dream.
More than 100 corporations(!) have and are participating in making The BIG Deal the huge industry it is today - And yes I call it an industry rather than 'just' a 'business'. With that many parties involved, it transcends beeing just a 'business', and becomes an industry in it's own.
While in the early days any oppertunity to raise awereness of The BIG Deal was 'exploited' to the max , there has been 'silence' for the longest of times now - Simply to keep the (administrative) workload 'at bay' as new (and old) costumors keeps pouring in - Even without earlier days PR efforts.
The 1.5 year anniversary of The BIG Deal we cant ignore though.
To mark the occation we have even decided to give away a free Raven BPo share (Which has a pricetag of 108.75M ISK) Anyone buying a share within the next 18 days (marking the 18 months) will get one 'ticket' for a lottery to be drawn at the end of the 18 days. Any purchases made in the time from today (2005.04.09) until Tuesday the 26th (2005.04.26) are valid 'entries'. You get one ticket, per share you buy - And if you're lucky, you get the free Raven share ontop of that.
Now, no post about The BIG Deal would be complete without alot of numbers to show just how BIG The BIG Deal is - So here goes.
To date: 509 shares have been sold! Total value : 45,367,500,000 ISK
Thats ~80M ISK beeing put into my wallet *every single day* for 18 months!!! It's breathtaking when you think about it for a second.
7130 Battleship BPc's have been paid out to The BIG Deal shareholders.
And most importantly - As thats the actual 'goal' of The BIG Deal
32 Battleship BPo's have been paid out.
Thats a BS BPo leaving The BIG Deal laboratories every two weeks.
So to answer all those that regularly EVE-mails me if The BIG Deal is still around : Yes - Very much so
BIG Lottery
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Gresnik
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Posted - 2005.04.09 14:01:00 -
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Well done.
Respect for the work you put in the entire EVE community BIG girls!
Dont ever stop ;).
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.04.09 14:37:00 -
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i think such schemes will do well when the newer & bigger ship classes come out.
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2005.04.09 15:31:00 -
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How about a "Less BIG Deal" with T2 cruisers shares which not hands out the bpo in the end, but a BPC every 2 weeks or so? ---------------------------------------------
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anter
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Posted - 2005.04.09 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: anter on 09/04/2005 17:06:00 Does the BPC cost the one who own share anything like lab rental fees?
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Dhan
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Posted - 2005.04.10 06:31:00 -
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BIG pays all the costs.
We bought 2 shares over a year ago, and have been very happy with the service provided.
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anter
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Posted - 2005.04.10 08:30:00 -
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But wouldn't they be losing awfull lot of isk then?
You could buy few shares from them and the make few extra mil per week selling the BPCs and after awhile sell that share back and then you have what you paid for the share + the amount you made with selling these BPCs and on top of that you didnt have to pay for lab slots, since BIG paid for it?
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anter
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Posted - 2005.04.10 09:18:00 -
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Ok checked these prices bit more closely, so that they are making some profit per share when you compare these to market price of BPOs, so I suppose these pay out the lab slots.
Still think such system could be exploitable. Like someone would buy some of these shares and get BPCs per week without hasle with lab slots and then later when he would have almost enough for 10 shares of some BS BPO he would sell these shares back to BIG and get cheaper BPO from market. Unless ofcourse you cant sell the share back to BIG ever, which would mean that you are locked with the share until you buy all 10.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.04.10 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 10/04/2005 11:41:27 As you point out anter - If BIG made a buy back gurantee it could indeed be exploited - So we dont
You *are* however free to sell your share(s) to someone else anytime you wish - Which actually happens every now and again.
And yes - We pay for the lab slots.
Initially when The BIG Deal started, NPC prices for BPo's where fixed and we made no profit on that at all (and lab fees where alot cheaper as well )
Regarding other 'expensive' BPo's - We've been asked about it *alot*. We've (sofar) chosen not to do those mainly due to the fact that 'the numbers doesnt add up' as well, as it does for the BS BPo's.
By that I mean - the time it takes to make copies vs a reasonable frequency of payouts (once a week is ideal - once every two weeks and it becomes less desirable etc). Theres a few other concerns relating to the times involved. All of which makes it less desirable to do a The BIG Deal thing with other prints.
One other reason is - The administration of The BIG Deal is already a bit 'overwhelming' (as pointed out in my initial post - thats the reason why we havent doen any PR for The BIG Deal for a very long time)
BIG Lottery
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Dreck Morrison
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:38:00 -
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Congrats on the sucess of your venture from one of your biggest customers. I wish you much success with your latest lottery.
I have purchased 3 BPOs through this service (almost 10% of your delivered BPOs!). I can only say the best things about integrity of this service and how this one factor alone made the game so much more fun. When I threw every isk I owned into my first Armageddon share with BIG over 1.5 years ago, it started me on the road to investment success. And now I am a major ship producer in Eve moving into tech 2 lasers and frigates - mostly due to the profits made from my BS BPOs.
It has been fun!
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Voltaire Leriel
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Posted - 2005.04.14 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Voltaire Leriel on 14/04/2005 08:14:18
Originally by: Hellspawn01 How about a "Less BIG Deal" with T2 cruisers shares which not hands out the bpo in the end, but a BPC every 2 weeks or so?
Actually, that would probobly be a "BIGger Deal" as T2 cruiser BPo's cost probobly 4 times as much.
but the #1 most limiting factor is that there are only 8 BPo's in existance, even if BIG could afford to buy even half of the BPo's for a single ship (which is probobly impossible as we'd have to find people willing to sell them to us), that would only mean 40 shares to go around... We wouldent be able to sell any more after that. 'buying out' a BPo would reduce us permenantly to 30 shares, as you cant just go and get a new BPo when demand requires it.
Simply put, the limited nature of the T2 BPo's does not lend itself to this system.
The "BIG Sales" program is still going on, a conglamerate of T2 ship and module producers. Maybe you should check that out. Talk to RaTTus about it, he can hook you up. It's nothing like the BIG Deal, but there are some very competative prices on T2 things there. worth a look.
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nashi
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Posted - 2005.04.14 15:14:00 -
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Also with the T2 prints, it is more efficient time wise to manufacture the ships/modules than to copy them. Copying is 1.5x or 2x longer than production if I remember correctly.
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Sammira
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Posted - 2005.04.14 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sammira on 14/04/2005 18:48:23 (
Congratulations on the run BIG. I still remember you guys spamming newbie corp mails.
A little off topic, but:
Originally by: Voltaire Leriel
but the #1 most limiting factor is that there are only 8 BPo's in existance, even if BIG could afford to buy even half of the BPo's for a single ship (which is probobly impossible as we'd have to find people willing to sell them to us), that would only mean 40 shares to go around...
There are actually more than 8 copies of each tech II BPo active in the world after the BPo's have all been dropped. Oveur said that the devs had no idea where the 8 BPo's number came from (it's baloney) and generally there are more than 20+ of each.
Originally by: Oveur The number of BPO's in the wild can be deduced, hence you can do your homework. 8 of each BP is plainly false. We have been giving out 20+ of each for quite some time.
Originally by: Oveur Example, each support cruisers have 23 blueprints coming out. That's 92 original support blueprints. Same with turrets, I can't even count how many of those are coming out if you count all the types.
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Klasanov
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Posted - 2006.02.13 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: anter Ok checked these prices bit more closely, so that they are making some profit per share when you compare these to market price of BPOs, so I suppose these pay out the lab slots.
Still think such system could be exploitable. Like someone would buy some of these shares and get BPCs per week without hasle with lab slots and then later when he would have almost enough for 10 shares of some BS BPO he would sell these shares back to BIG and get cheaper BPO from market. Unless ofcourse you cant sell the share back to BIG ever, which would mean that you are locked with the share until you buy all 10.
As has been stated, you can't sell to Big, but to other pilots/corps if you want.
However I think most people doing this are interested in eventually owning the BPO for themselves. I think BIG's hand in the profits comes in the form of shares that will be worth a little more than buying the BPO outright, and so their main business is in having people buy new shares. So the only expense is how many copies they must make per week, and their income is in how many shares are sold each week.
If for some reason I'm wrong and the BIG CORP is actually selling the sum of 10 parts of a share at face value and losing ISK in this entirely... Then I will paint my Maller pink.
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IonHammer
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Posted - 2006.02.14 01:46:00 -
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sometimes prophecy is not that hard.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.02.14 01:51:00 -
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What about a BIG deal for dreadnoughts and carriers? -- Proud member of the [23].
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