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Demolishar
United Aggression
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Posted - 2012.10.29 16:42:00 -
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This will reduce character farming for chars to sell on Bazaar. This will reduce alt-proliferation of "PLEX-only" players. This will increase amount of PLEX entering in-game economy as PLEX will only be created when someone pays with cash to sub their account.
So in theory, massive PLEX price crash in 3... 2... 1... |
Shari Xor
Deep Space X Collective - Red Scorpion Squad
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:15:00 -
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Demolishar wrote:
This will increase amount of PLEX entering in-game economy as PLEX will only be created when someone pays with cash to sub their account.
So in theory, massive PLEX price crash in 3... 2... 1...
could you pls explain this? i d think its the other way around. less plex in the market -> price increases
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Demolishar
United Aggression
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:22:00 -
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Shari Xor wrote:Demolishar wrote:
This will increase amount of PLEX entering in-game economy as PLEX will only be created when someone pays with cash to sub their account.
So in theory, massive PLEX price crash in 3... 2... 1...
could you pls explain this? i d think its the other way around. less plex in the market -> price increases
In old system when you want to make an alt, you buddy invite yourself, pay with PLEX and get the PLEX back. Net result, +1 PLEX, -1 PLEX = 0 PLEX. No real overall effect.
New system, if you wanted an alt, you'd have to pay with real cash. No PLEX is used up, but a PLEX enters the game. Hence +1 PLEX. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:40:00 -
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that may be the case, however if plex prices fall then less people will buy plex with irl cash to sell for isk. hence the plex price will go back up again as supply falls.
it's by no means a sure fire way that plex prices will come down. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Demolishar
United Aggression
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Posted - 2012.10.29 19:20:00 -
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That may be so, but with the combined impact of both this change and the FW change reducing demand, it is likely that PLEX prices will reach a new equillibrium at a lower price level than they are currently at. |
Minister Man
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.29 20:05:00 -
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Just curious, where do they say this is happening? Just want to read what they say as your explanation is not very effective for me.
Thanks |
Rebecca Cairn
Cairn Trade Corp
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Posted - 2012.10.29 20:19:00 -
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Minister Man wrote:Just curious, where do they say this is happening? Just want to read what they say as your explanation is not very effective for me.
Thanks
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73471 |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2012.10.29 21:16:00 -
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Demolishar wrote:
In old system when you want to make an alt, you buddy invite yourself, pay with PLEX and get the PLEX back. Net result, +1 PLEX, -1 PLEX = 0 PLEX. No real overall effect.
New system, if you wanted an alt, you'd have to pay with real cash. No PLEX is used up, but a PLEX enters the game. Hence +1 PLEX.
Or:
New system, if you wanted an alt, you'd give a PLEX to the alt and claim 30 days play time as a reward. One PLEX is used up, but no PLEX enters the game. Hence -1 PLEX. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Demolishar
United Aggression
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:06:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote: Or:
New system, if you wanted an alt, you'd give a PLEX to the alt and claim 30 days play time as a reward. One PLEX is used up, but no PLEX enters the game. Hence -1 PLEX.
I've considered that possibility, but I feel that the -1 PLEX and the 30 days will cancel out as there is a PLEX not being used for gametime that would have been otherwise. Unless of course, people are willing to sub far, far into the future. Personally this is not something I do. |
GreenSeed
90
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Posted - 2012.10.29 22:18:00 -
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this will have 0 effect on character farms, you dont plex new characters, you plex accounts. they already have the accounts and dont need more.
when you transfer you transfer the character, the account remains with you with 0 characters. |
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Darrien Hawkins
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.10.29 23:03:00 -
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I don't see this having a huge effect on me personally. Before the change it cost me nothing to get 51 days of training time; after the change it will still cost me nothing (effectively). I will just have to be more mindful of how, when and why I do it.
it will just make things more complicated. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2012.10.30 01:20:00 -
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This is a funny topic.
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Cathrine Carlile
The Carlile Consortium
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Posted - 2012.10.30 06:15:00 -
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Demolishar wrote:This will reduce character farming for chars to sell on Bazaar. This will reduce alt-proliferation of "PLEX-only" players. This will increase amount of PLEX entering in-game economy as PLEX will only be created when someone pays with cash to sub their account.
So in theory, massive PLEX price crash in 3... 2... 1...
The amount of PLEX entering the game will remain the same...
Buddy program alts comsume one plex and output one plex, meaning that the amount of PLEX in the game remain the same..
1-1+1 = 1
The buddy program doesn't increase the amount of alts for plex-only players per se... It may increase the amount of temporary alts, but the long-term amount of alt remains the same, since they'd have to pay in $$ or isk after the first 51 days.
And in any case, who cares? More plex-consumers = more isk for plex sellers.
The prices of plex is not due to massive amount of alts popping up all of the sudden (in my opinion, cool your horses). It's market manipulation. |
Samroski
Games Inc.
75
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:05:00 -
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Previously: 2 plex were used. One of these was conjured out of air- not bought from the market.
Now: 2 plex will be used. (or one PLEX used, and new character paid for by other means)
Thus demand for PLEX likely to increase.
Think there may be many confounding variables that I am missing :) |
Aine Ni
Some Really Meaningless Name
39
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:17:00 -
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Samroski wrote:Previously: 2 plex were used. One of these was conjured out of air- not bought from the market.
Now: 2 plex will be used. (or one PLEX used, and new character paid for by other means)
Thus demand for PLEX likely to increase.
Think there may be many confounding variables that I am missing :)
Nope - that is right |
Demolishar
United Aggression
394
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:32:00 -
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ITT: People with PLEX stockpiles trying to drive up price using flawed logic. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp. R O G U E
476
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:18:00 -
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Demolishar wrote:ITT: People with PLEX stockpiles trying to drive up price using flawed logic.
seems it's working, last month a plex was just under 550m, got my "your account is running out" email yesterday and plex are at nearly 600m, plex is going up that's for sure. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
409
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Posted - 2012.10.31 13:27:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:This is a funny topic.
yup
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Demolishar
United Aggression
394
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:20:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Val'Dore wrote:This is a funny topic. yup
yup but was worth a try |
Jesuis Cache-Cache
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Posted - 2012.11.02 09:54:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:New system, if you wanted an alt, you'd give a PLEX to the alt and claim 30 days play time as a reward. One PLEX is used up, but no PLEX enters the game. Hence -1 PLEX. I assume this is the way it will remain? We will still get the 30 days added to the main account? "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
~ Rich Cook |
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Gary Bell
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.02 12:03:00 -
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Sorry to break it to you but it is still far more profitable to generate 51 day alts to sell then to buy plexes outright for your accounts. You cans still make toons that can easily sell for 3Bil isk, which in turn buys 4 plexes for the price of one.
All for the headache of changing a skill que..
I think ill take it thanks
All this means is rather then paying for my main and plexing up buddy accounts I will pay for buddy accounts and run up GT on my main.
Glad CCP thought this out |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
333
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:56:00 -
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Add in a new demand for throw away characters, yea I can see this getting to be a thing.
Of course if rules are meant to broken, bio mass until they ban works too. |
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