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Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tippia wrote:EVE has intrusion countermeasures now? Is it black or grey? What's the attack and spoof rating of your deck? +13, but we have a counter card, two jokers and the card with the instructions on it.
The instruction card? FFS. Everybody know jokers are fair games but the instruction card is just too much. It's so OP it's comparable to mining in a different field during an interdiction. Everybody know players can't do this. |
Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:16:00 -
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You have to buy more Mackinaws. Surely, you have the PRE-buff models.
If you buy a POST-buff model, they are gank proof.
Just keep doing this until you get a good one. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
337
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:20:00 -
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I can't wait for the new bounty system. |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Intrepid Crossing
141
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:26:00 -
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why is noone using a skiff instead, its pretty close to a mack for mining capability? |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:30:00 -
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ITTigerClawIK wrote:why is noone using a skiff instead, its pretty close to a mack for mining capability? Ore hold, and no reason to use them in high sec. Mack's are fine. |
Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
45
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:31:00 -
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Or you could use insured retrievers and laugh when you get ganked. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.10.22 17:53:00 -
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ITTigerClawIK wrote:why is noone using a skiff instead, its pretty close to a mack for mining capability?
A lot of people had Macki's from before the buff. Skiff was never used so nobody owns them. You are right on the actual Ice mining ability and 15 blocks between drops is more than enough wait time. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.10.22 19:25:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:ITTigerClawIK wrote:why is noone using a skiff instead, its pretty close to a mack for mining capability? Ore hold, and no reason to use them in high sec. Mack's are fine.
Isn't the interdiction a "we kill everything in the field" operation no matter the tank? |
Harraria
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
11
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Posted - 2012.10.22 19:30:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:ITTigerClawIK wrote:why is noone using a skiff instead, its pretty close to a mack for mining capability? A lot of people had Macki's from before the buff. Skiff was never used so nobody owns them. You are right on the actual Ice mining ability and 15 blocks between drops is more than enough wait time.
Plus, a Skiff gives you a bit more piece of mind, which makes the 30 or so minutes in-between station runs more relaxing. |
Kryxal
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1
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Posted - 2012.10.22 19:42:00 -
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It looks like the Procurer would work pretty well ... stick a good shield tank on it, insure it, and you have a cheap, durable miner. The Goons may kill you anyway, but at least you'll be draining their accounts in the process... |
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Sixx Spades
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2012.10.22 19:48:00 -
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Kryxal wrote:It looks like the Procurer would work pretty well ... stick a good shield tank on it, insure it, and you have a cheap, durable miner. The Goons may kill you anyway, but at least you'll be draining their accounts in the process...
You know, because we're hard up on cash anyways. :laffo:
Having to fly a procurer or skiff is a punishment in and of itself. Thanks for doing our jobs for us. Jade Constantine, self-made space harlot. News at 11. http://bit.ly/LTW5gW |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
859
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Posted - 2012.10.22 19:52:00 -
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If this doesn't bring anything new to the game but tears from both sides, at least brings threads to post on like this one.
increasing my posting.
Thx
Bye. brb |
baltec1
Bat Country
2511
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Posted - 2012.10.22 19:57:00 -
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You are all forgetting that a big bulk of highsec miners are incapable of adapting unless it makes their yeild better. I have spent most of this year telling them how to avoid being ganked and they still died by the hundreds. After the barge buffs they beat their cheasts and announced their victory over gankers thinking CCP had made them safe. Well we have awoken from our summer slumber and have decided miners are the first to suffer. Over the next six month bad players across high sec will be reminded that playing stupid will not go unpunished. |
Harraria
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
12
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:04:00 -
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Sixx Spades wrote:Kryxal wrote:It looks like the Procurer would work pretty well ... stick a good shield tank on it, insure it, and you have a cheap, durable miner. The Goons may kill you anyway, but at least you'll be draining their accounts in the process... You know, because we're hard up on cash anyways. :laffo: Having to fly a procurer or skiff is a punishment in and of itself. Thanks for doing our jobs for us.
There's no difference in ice harvester cycle time between the Skiff and Mackinaw FYI |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
859
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:07:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:You are all forgetting that a big bulk of highsec miners are incapable of adapting unless it makes their yeild better. I have spent most of this year telling them how to avoid being ganked and they still died by the hundreds. After the barge buffs they beat their cheasts and announced their victory over gankers thinking CCP had made them safe. Well we have awoken from our summer slumber and have decided miners are the first to suffer. Over the next six month bad players across high sec will be reminded that playing stupid will not go unpunished.
Why U mad?
Don't be mad.
Be happy !! brb |
baltec1
Bat Country
2512
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:08:00 -
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Harraria wrote:Sixx Spades wrote:Kryxal wrote:It looks like the Procurer would work pretty well ... stick a good shield tank on it, insure it, and you have a cheap, durable miner. The Goons may kill you anyway, but at least you'll be draining their accounts in the process... You know, because we're hard up on cash anyways. :laffo: Having to fly a procurer or skiff is a punishment in and of itself. Thanks for doing our jobs for us. There's no difference in ice harvester cycle time between the Skiff and Mackinaw FYI There is once you get the MLU on them. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2512
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:10:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:baltec1 wrote:You are all forgetting that a big bulk of highsec miners are incapable of adapting unless it makes their yeild better. I have spent most of this year telling them how to avoid being ganked and they still died by the hundreds. After the barge buffs they beat their cheasts and announced their victory over gankers thinking CCP had made them safe. Well we have awoken from our summer slumber and have decided miners are the first to suffer. Over the next six month bad players across high sec will be reminded that playing stupid will not go unpunished. Why U mad? Don't be mad. Be happy !! Oh we aint mad. We are becoming disgustingly rich from all of this. |
Minmatar Gandhi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:11:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:There are several options you can really use here :
- Fit a tank to your barge.
- Hire a mercenary corporation to escort and protect your mining group.
- Ask your friends or corpmates to fleet up and provide an escort for your mining group.
Dear fellow space travellers
This man looks to have spoken the truth and his stature must be hailed thrice for the advice he gives. But I challenge you to query his knowledge.
Ask yourself if he understands the Goons intent. Ask, does he speak as a miner who knows the tank will not stop many ships. Ask, does he speak as a ganker who cares not for the escort. Ask, would not Concord intervene when you fire at someone before they shoot.
His words are false. His intentions are false. He speaks lies.
I, Minmatar Gandhi, offer the only true and wise words. Stop mining ice.
Go in Peace -oo-
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Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:14:00 -
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Minmatar Gandhi wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:There are several options you can really use here :
- Fit a tank to your barge.
- Hire a mercenary corporation to escort and protect your mining group.
- Ask your friends or corpmates to fleet up and provide an escort for your mining group.
Dear fellow space travellers This man looks to have spoken the truth and his stature must be hailed thrice for the advice he gives. But I challenge you to query his knowledge. Ask yourself if he understands the Goons intent. Ask, does he speak as a miner who knows the tank will not stop many ships. Ask, does he speak as a ganker who cares not for the escort. Ask, would not Concord intervene when you fire at someone before they shoot. His words are false. His intentions are false. He speaks lies. I, Minmatar Gandhi, offer the only true and wise words. Stop mining ice. Go in Peace -oo-
Goon alt confirmed. Just do what Falcon said. Get a few friends or alts in logi ships and form a permanent rep web and ensure all ships are tanks. Invite a friend with an Orca to hold ore, or use an alt in an iteron. Problem solved. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
340
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:20:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Harraria wrote:Sixx Spades wrote:Kryxal wrote:It looks like the Procurer would work pretty well ... stick a good shield tank on it, insure it, and you have a cheap, durable miner. The Goons may kill you anyway, but at least you'll be draining their accounts in the process... You know, because we're hard up on cash anyways. :laffo: Having to fly a procurer or skiff is a punishment in and of itself. Thanks for doing our jobs for us. There's no difference in ice harvester cycle time between the Skiff and Mackinaw FYI There is once you get the MLU on them. I'd rather have the ~20k+ better EHP on the much cheaper Procurer in a situation where ganks were more likely. Yield is still similar and losses can be shrugged off. Not to mention if you are being actively hunted chances are you can't sit still long enough to make proper use of the hold anyways. |
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Selinate
1046
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:41:00 -
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Idris Helion wrote:ANGRY23 wrote:Wat is an ice interdiction. If u miners want to mine ice with no goon reprisal come to Rancer. We have daily mining ops cashing in on the gaylantte ice prices being high and never see a goon. Contact me ingame if u too want to make billions when goons mess with gaylantte ice. Rancer. You will never see a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
You mistook Jita for Rancer. All they do in Rancer all day is sit on the gate and pop anything that flies through, it's hardly full of any "scum" or "villainy"...
Unlike Jita where the alts will take any amount of isk from you that they can scam off you. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
1670
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:44:00 -
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Selinate wrote:
You mistook Jita for Rancer. All they do in Rancer all day is sit on the gate and pop anything that flies through, it's hardly full of any "scum" or "villainy"...
Unlike Jita where the alts will take any amount of isk from you that they can scam off you.
Jita, the Eve universes equivalent to Wall Street, or Mogadishu depending on how you look at it. Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |
Speaker for TheDead
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:baltec1 wrote:You are all forgetting that a big bulk of highsec miners are incapable of adapting unless it makes their yeild better. I have spent most of this year telling them how to avoid being ganked and they still died by the hundreds. After the barge buffs they beat their cheasts and announced their victory over gankers thinking CCP had made them safe. Well we have awoken from our summer slumber and have decided miners are the first to suffer. Over the next six month bad players across high sec will be reminded that playing stupid will not go unpunished. Why U mad? Don't be mad. Be happy !! Oh we aint mad. We are becoming disgustingly rich from all of this.
Weren't you already disgustingly rich? At some point does it even matter how much isk you have? You can only fly so many ships at once, no matter how many alts you have....
"Inception date: Expired."
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
163
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:49:00 -
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Das Aivo wrote:Doesn't CCP realize this is making it almost impossible to mine Ice?
I have already lost TWO MACKINAWS!!!
I'm only posting on an alt so i don't get hunted down and killed AGAIN.
I am so tired of this.
How are we supposed to mine like this?
I hate those stupid goons. Where are you mining...I probably can schedule you in the coming days...but I have to warn you....it might be tight and there is no guarantee that I can gank you this week. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2616
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:51:00 -
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Minmatar Gandhi wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:There are several options you can really use here :
- Fit a tank to your barge.
- Hire a mercenary corporation to escort and protect your mining group.
- Ask your friends or corpmates to fleet up and provide an escort for your mining group.
Dear fellow space travellers This man looks to have spoken the truth and his stature must be hailed thrice for the advice he gives. But I challenge you to query his knowledge. Ask yourself if he understands the Goons intent. Ask, does he speak as a miner who knows the tank will not stop many ships. Ask, does he speak as a ganker who cares not for the escort. Ask, would not Concord intervene when you fire at someone before they shoot. His words are false. His intentions are false. He speaks lies. I, Minmatar Gandhi, offer the only true and wise words. Stop mining ice. Go in Peace -oo-
You are forgetting that the effects of Karma are inevitable, and the new kill rights system will indeed allow an alert escort fleet to shoot first come winter.
Karma also dicates that few, if any miners, will actually make the effort. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2514
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:55:00 -
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Speaker for / wrote:Weren't you already disgustingly rich? At some point does it even matter how much isk you have? You can only fly so many ships at once, no matter how many alts you have.... You can never have too much isk and I do like the idea of flying nothing but vindicators on strat ops. |
Minmatar Gandhi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:57:00 -
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Tali Ambraelle wrote:Minmatar Gandhi wrote:Dear fellow space travellers
This man looks to have spoken the truth and his stature must be hailed thrice for the advice he gives. But I challenge you to query his knowledge.
Ask yourself if he understands the Goons intent. Ask, does he speak as a miner who knows the tank will not stop many ships. Ask, does he speak as a ganker who cares not for the escort. Ask, would not Concord intervene when you fire at someone before they shoot.
His words are false. His intentions are false. He speaks lies.
I, Minmatar Gandhi, offer the only true and wise words. Stop mining ice.
Go in Peace -oo-
Goon alt confirmed. Just do what Falcon said. Get a few friends or alts in logi ships and form a permanent rep web and ensure all ships are tanks. Invite a friend with an Orca to hold ore, or use an alt in an iteron. Problem solved. Dearest Friend
You understand little.
Consider the angry bull confronted with a fence and a red flag. The red flag will dominate the fence.
The strength of the fence has no significance. The bull will strike the fence. He will strike it once, twice, thrice. He will continue to strike the fence. The fence will break.
I say to you, stop waving the red flag and the bull will leave. He will go back to his grass and his cows.
But he will have left. This is a good thing.
Go in Peace -oo- |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
343
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:59:00 -
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Minmatar Gandhi wrote:Tali Ambraelle wrote:Minmatar Gandhi wrote:Dear fellow space travellers
This man looks to have spoken the truth and his stature must be hailed thrice for the advice he gives. But I challenge you to query his knowledge.
Ask yourself if he understands the Goons intent. Ask, does he speak as a miner who knows the tank will not stop many ships. Ask, does he speak as a ganker who cares not for the escort. Ask, would not Concord intervene when you fire at someone before they shoot.
His words are false. His intentions are false. He speaks lies.
I, Minmatar Gandhi, offer the only true and wise words. Stop mining ice.
Go in Peace -oo-
Goon alt confirmed. Just do what Falcon said. Get a few friends or alts in logi ships and form a permanent rep web and ensure all ships are tanks. Invite a friend with an Orca to hold ore, or use an alt in an iteron. Problem solved. Dearest Friend You understand little. Consider the angry bull confronted with a fence and a red flag. The red flag will dominate the fence. The strength of the fence has no significance. The bull will strike the fence. He will strike it once, twice, thrice. He will continue to strike the fence. The fence will break. I say to you, stop waving the red flag and the bull will leave. He will go back to his grass and his cows. But he will have left. This is a good thing. Go in Peace -oo- Translation.
Make high sec gank free and there won't be any gankers.
Go away now. |
Dain Highwind
State Protectorate Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.10.22 20:59:00 -
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Goon troll alt spotted. |
Harraria
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
12
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Posted - 2012.10.22 21:00:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Karma also dicates that few, if any miners, will actually make the effort.
How is that?
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