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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
416
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:07:00 -
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Chucking this one out there.
We know it's possible, we can do it with T3's.
We know it can be a problem, over eager blue bubblers trapping you at your own gate.
Or some dufus planting one at 100k off and not telling anyone - you bait and drag someone, they chase and you land in the bubble, along with the baited and get blapped.
Blue bubbles? Ignore - I'm blue. (like an inbuilt FoF system on-ship or on-bubble)
This be good for changing up the pitch? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2877
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:09:00 -
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As someone that has dropped a bubble on a friendly fleet by accident I approve this message.
Boy did I get yelled at "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Jim Era
5542
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:09:00 -
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Why not make it easier Its just a pain in the ass when it happens. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1960
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:10:00 -
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but jumping someone on their alliance's own bubble is fun |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
416
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:12:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:As someone that has dropped a bubble on a friendly fleet by accident I approve this message. Boy did I get yelled at Yelled at. Lucky you.
I got "Primary is......" "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
416
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:13:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:but jumping someone on their alliance's own bubble is fun No it's not. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
180
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:23:00 -
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So you're chasing someone through your own space, they get pulled to a bubble 100km away, you don't, they get away. :thumbsup:
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
416
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:32:00 -
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Soi Mala wrote:So you're chasing someone through your own space, they get pulled to a bubble 100km away, you don't, they get away. :thumbsup:
Errr.... If I know the bubble is there and they don't, where's my fleet?
The scenario above only occurs when some dufus puts one up on the chase without telling anyone and you're trying to drag the baddies with you.
But yeh, good point, it doesn't happen often, they would/should have tacticals off the line anyway. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
514
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:35:00 -
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No. Abuse of this would be rampant.
Put all your titans inside eleventy hundred and five blue bubbles. LOLZ @ anyone trying to come at you.
That wasn't even trying to think up an abuse of this. So many more bad reasons why just "No".
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
416
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:40:00 -
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Spurty wrote:No. Abuse of this would be rampant.
Put all your titans inside eleventy hundred and five blue bubbles. LOLZ @ anyone trying to come at you.
That wasn't even trying to think up an abuse of this. So many more bad reasons why just "No".
Stationary Titan inside a blue bubble - bad? Like a spider in a sticky web for all the little insects. Spider can still move no problem.
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1322
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:42:00 -
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Not being effect by your own teams traps truly dumbs the game down more so than any industrial buff could. Why must friendlies get hit by smartbombs? Lets turn off friendly fire. Wouldn't want someone to mess up their team on purpose in eve now would we? |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
416
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:48:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Not being effect by your own teams traps truly dumbs the game down more so than any industrial buff could. Why must friendlies get hit by smartbombs? Lets turn off friendly fire. Wouldn't want someone to mess up their team on purpose in eve now would we? Awox in disguise?
No wonder you hide your face. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10010
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Posted - 2012.10.18 22:54:00 -
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No.
It's a known bubble in friendly space. Just use your prepared off-axis warp-ins. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
416
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:01:00 -
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Tippia wrote:No.
It's a known bubble in friendly space. Just use your prepared off-axis warp-ins. what? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10012
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:28:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:what? By your own words: GÇ£over eager blue bubblers trapping you at your own gateGÇ¥.
You own the gate. This means you have prepared warp-ins that don't align with anything so you can bypass any bubbles on it unless the bubble is placed in such a way that it won't stop anyone. If it's a bubble right on top of the gate, you just have to scoot 25km anyway so get scooting (and call in some waste removal)GǪ and as others have mentioned, ensure that the poor fellow has a GÇ£training accidentGÇ¥ the next time you meet. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
417
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:30:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:what? By your own words: Gǣover eager blue bubblers trapping you at your own gateGǥ. You own the gate. This means you have prepared warp-ins that don't align with anything so you can bypass any bubbles on it unless the bubble is placed in such a way that it won't stop anyone. If it's a bubble right on top of the gate, you just have to scoot 25km anyway so get scooting (and call in some waste removal)GǪ and as others have mentioned, ensure that the poor fellow has a Gǣtraining accidentGǥ the next time you meet. You ever been trapped by an over-eager blue HIC on outbound? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Adeleda Adoudel
Welp The Monkey Free Enterprise Treaty Organization
17
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:34:00 -
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No. I like it the way it is. Even though I've died countless times to blue bubbles, each time I do I get smarter and know to go to celestial and scan.
Lets not make Eve easier than it already is. :) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10012
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:35:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:You ever been trapped by an over-eager blue HIC on outbound? Only if I count myself.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
908
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:44:00 -
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No.
Why?
There would be no reason to shoot over eager blue bubblers then. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
419
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:51:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:No.
Why?
There would be no reason to shoot over eager blue bubblers then. But Sir, my sword..... my beautiful sword... "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
695
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Posted - 2012.10.18 23:53:00 -
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If you have incompetent dictors in your fleet laying bubbles in the wrong places, who's fault is that?
Hint: not CCP Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
680
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:10:00 -
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As a dictor pilot my mission is to drop bubbles and assist in the destruction of a fleet.
If it's an enemy fleet I call that a happy coincidence. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
419
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:16:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:If you have incompetent dictors in your fleet laying bubbles in the wrong places, who's fault is that?
Hint: not CCP Actually, I don't recall any blame game in this thread. Must be getting a bit common in the threads you read perhaps?
Trying to see if it'd be more fun. 'Cos getting caught in your own bubble is not fun and Eve is supposed to be about fun.
Isn't it? Fun? Supposed to be? Nah?
PS: It's a throwaway. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
267
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:21:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:over eager blue bubblers trapping you at your own gate.
Working as intended, imo. The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
36
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:23:00 -
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Give the owners of the anchored bubble the option to toggle certain people/colortags to pass through and warp as normal. Could toggle it wartarget only, reds only, everyone, all but fleet, all but blues, or even only blues. Pretty much a checklist and entity search function in an option window for the bubble. Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
419
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:26:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Give the owners of the anchored bubble the option to toggle certain people/colortags to pass through and warp as normal. Could toggle it wartarget only, reds only, everyone, all but fleet, all but blues, or even only blues. Pretty much a checklist and entity search function in an option window for the bubble. Dude, They only got one job with one button and they **** it up. You wanna give 'em 2 options??? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
36
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Posted - 2012.10.19 00:40:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Lugia3 wrote:Give the owners of the anchored bubble the option to toggle certain people/colortags to pass through and warp as normal. Could toggle it wartarget only, reds only, everyone, all but fleet, all but blues, or even only blues. Pretty much a checklist and entity search function in an option window for the bubble. Dude, They only got one job with one button and they **** it up. You wanna give 'em 2 options???
Naw, more than 2!
Doesn't matter if they mess up if the bubble still won't effect you... that is until you get the ****** in your fleet who insists on bringing a drake, drops bubbles every 5 minutes for no reason, and can't figure out how to configure the bubble. Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2597
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:26:00 -
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I'm sorry, but that makes things just a bit too tame... and yes it would lead to tactics being employed that would be even less fun that the occasional excitement of being snagged in a blue bubble.
Save for bombs, smart bombs, and bubbles there is no such thing as friendly fire in EVE... which while necessary due to technical reasons is still a shame. If friendly fire were possible, it would probably do more to break up the blob than anything else suggested so far. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
69
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:41:00 -
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You'd ruin half the fun of 0.0 in some alliances if bubbles didn't catch blues. I've often seen corp-mates having fun popping people for bubbling their own station (and not telling the logistics guys trying to dock in a jf), or just bubbling their fleet travelling home after an op to annoy the fc.
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Arduemont
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
436
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Posted - 2012.10.19 04:55:00 -
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Although I regularly deal with bubbles, more blue than anything else, I think bubbles need to work on friendlies aswell if its to stay balanced..
No to "friendly proof" bubbles. |
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