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NickSuccorso
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:18:00 -
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So when are you getting this project finished up? |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
863
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Posted - 2013.12.31 18:10:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Logical 101 wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:This is actually very welcome news, I hope the goons can bring a little of Eve Online to SC and make it as harsh and unforgiving as Eve. The harsh and unforgiving nature of EVE has **** all to do with Goons, champ. It's the format and the freedom players have to genuinely cripple one another structurally, logistically, militarily and financially, and that was all in place long before anyone heard of or gave two ***** about Goonswarm Federation. And so far, SC is a pile of concept art, videos of staff who have all the depth and charm of a lead pipe, and a Star Conflict style shooter. #HYPE is such a sad an unfulfilling world to live in. I'm no goon fan boy, but my point was that Star Citizen whilst technically excellent has an optimistic and utopian feel about as opposed to Eve online which is dark and dystopian. I think the future will be more like blade runner than starwars given how humanity behaves, but anyhow, the goons have a history of entering other mmo's with a view to exploiting game mechanics in order to change the nature of that game and ultimately destroy it, whilst being obnoxious to all and sundry. They've had some success at this in second life so I am told. Hence my statement that they might bring a little bit of Eve online to SC. As Eve online supports and encourages such behaviour. CCP sees emergent gameplay where other companies see griefing. We are Star Trek pooping rainbows compared to just 200 years ago. In some ways, our world is a nightmare unthinkable to the people then. In some other ways, we are beyond the wildest dreams of the people then. And you and me and your neighbour are terribly fortunate to have been born now and here. Morale: the future is never what you think of it... and EVE is just a game.
Agreed on all points, in many ways people a hundred years from now will be also more fortunate than we are today though if you ask me a lot of people who play wow would argue the opposite (not that we care about them lol). Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
392
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Posted - 2014.01.01 06:05:00 -
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Logical 101 wrote:And, also, ignore the fact that the rest of it looks like X-Wing..."
You say that as though it's a bad thing. I might point out that in blob war mode, eve looks significantly worse than Xwing.
Getting back to the subject: I think it;'s clear we want some sort of WiS gameplay, CCP. Even if it's just playing solitaire in our hanger.
Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all. |
Arduemont
The State of War.
2870
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Posted - 2014.01.01 07:38:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote: Getting back to the subject:
I've never subscribed that the idea of comparing Eve to another game is a good idea in a discussion. The whole 'Star Citizen' will kill Eve thing, just gets on my nerve more than anything else.
The trouble is though, that this argument has been done to death. Almost anything there is to be said, has been said. Now it's just people occasionally posting to show their support and bring this thread back to the front page for people who haven't seen it before to have a read of the OP.
So it's not really surprising that people feel the need to talk about a game that is actually developing something to use as a comparison. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
866
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Posted - 2014.01.01 19:48:00 -
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I just found this today. Some of you may already be aware of this but I wasn't.
http://www.gameskinny.com/6jsdo/elite-dangerous-heads-into-alpha-testing-and-announces-future-plans-for-avatar-gameplay
If Elite Dangerous is going to feature avatar content and all they've had is a measly 2million in funding then it makes me wonder, what the **** is ccp doing?
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
978
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Posted - 2014.01.01 21:32:00 -
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It was announced by Braben one year ago, but that is stuff to make in future expansions, not in the release package. Same with planetary flight, and landing on planets. But whole game is made with respect to those functionalities. a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ [TALOCAN STUFF] |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
866
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:24:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:It was announced by Braben one year ago, but that is stuff to make in future expansions, not in the release package. Same with planetary flight, and landing on planets. But whole game is made with respect to those functionalities.
It's good though as he is at least mindful of the future and has a plan. It looks like he's getting good results with his limited funding so personally I'm looking forward to it coming out. Elite was a big deal for me in the 80's and in many ways is the game that Eve is a direct descendant of. In other words I will have to try it and probably vacate Eve for a couple of months whilst I play it. I'm not promising to stay away for ever because New Eden is my spiritual home, but CCP really need to start looking at their plan and adjust accordingly otherwise they are going to get overtaken by the competition. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Jara Blackwind
Lutinari Syndicate Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:07:00 -
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Quote:If Elite Dangerous is going to feature avatar content and all they've had is a measly 2million in funding then it makes me wonder, what the **** is ccp doing? Quote:CCP really need to start looking at their plan and adjust accordingly otherwise they are going to get overtaken by the competition. Apparently they think that the policy that "sees emergent gameplay where other companies see griefing" makes them immune to said competition. |
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
387
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:15:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:the future is never what you think of it... and EVE is just a game.
The future Ish? Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
867
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Posted - 2014.01.02 00:27:00 -
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Jara Blackwind wrote:Quote:If Elite Dangerous is going to feature avatar content and all they've had is a measly 2million in funding then it makes me wonder, what the **** is ccp doing? Quote:CCP really need to start looking at their plan and adjust accordingly otherwise they are going to get overtaken by the competition. Apparently they think that the policy that "sees emergent gameplay where other companies see griefing" makes them immune to said competition.
Well their famous five year plan for player built stargates certainly caters to this crowd of nullsec gamers that hate high sec while the rest of get shafted. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
808
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Posted - 2014.01.02 03:11:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Jara Blackwind wrote:Quote:If Elite Dangerous is going to feature avatar content and all they've had is a measly 2million in funding then it makes me wonder, what the **** is ccp doing? Quote:CCP really need to start looking at their plan and adjust accordingly otherwise they are going to get overtaken by the competition. Apparently they think that the policy that "sees emergent gameplay where other companies see griefing" makes them immune to said competition. Well their famous five year plan for player built stargates certainly caters to this crowd of nullsec gamers that hate high sec while the rest of get shafted.
Five years only give them 10+ year. |
SarahReed
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.02 16:26:00 -
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I am very late seeing this post but WOW this looks like a real interesting addintion to the EVE I love. hope CCP are still considering this for avatar gameplay. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3258
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Posted - 2014.01.06 09:56:00 -
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I think that we all should read what the CSM minutes have to say about avatar content.
Exactly, the word 'avatar' is not mentioned not even once in the whole minutes.
Admittedly, there is a slim chance (if you like playing lotteries by hoping to find a winner ticket on the pavement) that the heavily NDA'ed Project 2 or Project 3 are related to avatars, but I doubt it. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
348
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Posted - 2014.01.06 13:00:00 -
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Colour me very positively surprised if either of the projects turns out to be Avatar related, but after years of disappointment on this end I'm not really holding my breath. |
logic principle3
Knights-of-Cydonia
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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:37:00 -
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This sounds much better than that whole WIS fiasco being a focus of some expansion that shall not be named. It actually has gameplay to it. *Hats off, and good luck* -I am looking forward to it. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
894
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Posted - 2014.01.06 23:42:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:I think that we all should read what the CSM minutes have to say about avatar content.Exactly, the word 'avatar' is not mentioned not even once in the whole minutes. Admittedly, there is a slim chance (if you like playing lotteries by hoping to find a winner ticket on the pavement) that the heavily NDA'ed Project 2 or Project 3 are related to avatars, but I doubt it.
I doubt it too, but I bet avatars will feature in the advertising though. Any how it looks like jesus features are coming in an attempt to retain their engaged player base. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
205
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Posted - 2014.01.06 23:47:00 -
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not meant as troll, but what is this 164 page thread about? |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
894
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Posted - 2014.01.06 23:51:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:not meant as troll, but what is this 164 page thread about?
Read page 1, in essence avatar content in eve online as an expansion of game play. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2014.01.06 23:59:00 -
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There are few cool games coming up such as Star Citizen, which in my opinion is going to be a copy of EVE online + Dust. It is thought that the SC boys have extraordinary brain matter to fit the whole into one game and onto the same platform.
So my thoughts go to those fantastic developers of EVE online... will they be instructed to start working again on EVE online to seriously expand the game and add content or will they keep rebalancing things until SC takes over the whole market share?
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
894
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:08:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:There are few cool games coming up such as Star Citizen, which in my opinion is going to be a copy of EVE online + Dust. It is thought that the SC boys have extraordinary brain matter to fit the whole into one game and onto the same platform.
So my thoughts go to those fantastic developers of EVE online... will they be instructed to start working again on EVE online to seriously expand the game and add content or will they keep rebalancing things until SC takes over the whole market share?
Probably the latter, sc is going to be twitch based and they have a scaling engine that handles transitions between ship to avatar etc. Good use of modern technology. Eve will probably behave better server side though as combat will be instanced in sc or so I hear. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:26:00 -
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Teinyhr wrote:Colour me very positively surprised if either of the projects turns out to be Avatar related, but after years of disappointment on this end I'm not really holding my breath.
I imagine a day in the future in which someone will wake up and decide that because all other competing games have WIS they will also implement it. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
1707
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Posted - 2014.01.07 05:50:00 -
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So I've found a game which is 0) non-instanced giant 1) sandbox 2) with PvP, theft, hilarious player courts (!), territory control, craft, vessels, alliances, housing, multi-person mounts, etc. 3) and it has native support for DX11 graphics and avatars are comparable to EVE's toons - it's using CryEngine 3 - while animations are much better and 4) it's free (PvP&PvE is free, craft and thievery require modest payments). The only downside - it's fantasy - but I can live with that as long as there is a lot of action (so far there was a lot).
Good luck to CCP competing with new generation of sandbox games like that with EVE's uncomfortable core gameplay from 2003 without expanding it with new/additional core (avatars). |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
447
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:07:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:not meant as troll, but what is this 164 page thread about?
Schooling CCP about how they should follow the trend and build WiS instead of working on the core of the game, apparently. It's quite vast in scope, too - from completely unrealistic visions that would never actually work all the way to saying "everyone will migrate to SC anyway, because SC has WiS."
With CSM remaining rather focused on the matters that actually matter, I guess one of the NDA features could be a long-term sov revamp or changes to POSes. Which is, pretty much, the next thing we need.
Right after another round of what amusingly mostly forumgoers cry about - rebalancing. A chunk of T2 ships is still waiting for their turn.
When you think about it really, the ground is for peasants and DUST bunnies - a capsuleer doesn't bother himself/herself with going into a dangerous area, he/she just sends in goons. I mean, why risk being caught vulnerable, not protected by a few million skillpoints in gunnery and a rack of fully automatic 800mm howitzers?
You likely have enough ISK to own a small army and for a fistful of it a bunch of backwater world muppets will gladly suffer whatever gruesome fate awaits down the hallway. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
621
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:25:00 -
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Some of the things people frequently ask for are actually the low-risk areas : Corp meeting rooms, bars, etc. I can see why some capsuleers would want to stay in pod forever, but I can also see that some would prefer to stretch their legs from time to time. Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate |
Arduemont
The State of War.
2882
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:28:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:not meant as troll, but what is this 164 page thread about? Schooling CCP about how they should follow the trend and build WiS instead of working on the core of the game, apparently. It's quite vast in scope, too - from completely unrealistic visions that would never actually work all the way to saying "everyone will migrate to SC anyway, because SC has WiS."
Yes, this thread is mostly people whinging who have vastly different (or implausible) views on how Eve should be. Just like every other thread on the forum.
Trii Seo wrote:With CSM remaining rather focused on the matters that actually matter, I guess one of the NDA features could be a long-term sov revamp or changes to POSes. Which is, pretty much, the next thing we need.
Right after another round of what amusingly mostly forumgoers cry about - rebalancing. A chunk of T2 ships is still waiting for their turn.
Those things matter, and need fixing. The issue a lot of people have is that we're not seeing much of that either. The proportion of CCP's development time being spent of Eve has quite clearly been going down since Incursions* (when the fall in player numbers initially started pre-Incarna, and roughly when Dust, CARBON and WoD developement began). Now they're working towards a new Jesus Feature. Despite promising us that they wouldn't until everything else we were asking for at the time was covered.
* With the modest exception of Crucible. During which time CCP were scrambling to keep Eve alive after Incarnageddon.
Trii Seo wrote:When you think about it really, the ground is for peasants and DUST bunnies - a capsuleer doesn't bother himself/herself with going into a dangerous area, he/she just sends in goons. I mean, why risk being caught vulnerable, not protected by a few million skillpoints in gunnery and a rack of fully automatic 800mm howitzers?
You likely have enough ISK to own a small army and for a fistful of it a bunch of backwater world muppets will gladly suffer whatever gruesome fate awaits down the hallway.
You've obviously not read a great deal of the fiction. Some of the most powerful NPC capsuleers in recorded history spent little to no time in their ships. Jacus Radon, the Broker, the CEO of Ishikone etc etc. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
256
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Posted - 2014.01.07 13:49:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote: How about a sink and vanity mirror? Or maybe a ceiling fan? I'm just spitballing here, and want to get in on all this free money disgruntled EVE players are throwing at other games because they contain such meaningful and useful pre-alpha features.
We already have a vanity mirror in de CQ. A ceiling fan would be nice though, it can become quite hot in there, especially since we can't open the door to let fresh air in. And mind you, EvE is already in Beta!
In other words, you are continually patronizing WIS by nitpicking on minor details that might or might not be implemented. Instead you should look at a bigger picture. You might not like or be interested in the future development of WIS in EvE, a lot of others are. Including me, for a broader immersion into the Science Fiction universe EvE is. Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
352
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Posted - 2014.01.07 16:16:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:With CSM remaining rather focused on the matters that actually matter, I guess one of the NDA features could be a long-term sov revamp or changes to POSes. Which is, pretty much, the next thing we need.
Aside from the jesus feature thing someone before me just mentioned, your ramblings against WiS kind of lose some wind with that robotic arm and "torch" eye-implant of yours. I mean just saying if you don't care about avatar gameplay why do you bother dressing yours up? |
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
387
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Posted - 2014.01.07 16:37:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Quote:(...)
Have you played any other Oculus Rift games?
I've played a bit, but not as much as the guys who are working on this. They're keeping up with everything that's going on. My job is a lot now, not just connected to development like it used to be. I miss it because it's super fun to make games but I also need to focus on doing my actual job which is to make sure that the company is organised around our strategy and making sure we're making the right high level decisions.
(...)
Hillmar, as CEO in the company that might indeed be your job, but the quality of your performance while doing it is questionable, optimistically speaking.
Taking in consideration the options you've made in these last years regarding the Reinvented WheelGäó in avatar gameplay development (and its failure to deliver), the side project development (and the state in which they can be currently found), the human resources management, the Somer Blink scandal and impunity given to those involved (having your boys unstick and close the thread? hoping that it will dissapear from General Discussion section of the forum and new player attention? I see what you did there ) one could say that it's not a job you have done too well.
Take for instance the marketing expense of millions of dollars you've chosen to make every year with these phony promotional videos, paying to have them spammed on Youtube ads.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: CCP marketing expense 2008: (8,524,124) CCP marketing expense 2009: (9,410,916) CCP marketing expense 2010: (9,769,965) CCP marketing expense 2010: (9,769,965) CCP marketing expense 2011: (9,912,335) CCP marketing expense 2012: (12,567,302)
Hillmar, the best publicity your game can ever have is not the one you spend millions of dollars with, trying to convince and illude people with imaginary gameplay. It's the one made by people who come play your game, telling everybody and their parents to come play it because of how great it is and how blown away they were by it. Would't this money be better spent on having the people you fired still working at the company, giving them the tools they need to work and develop avatar gameplay and the other EVE features that are in need of attention?
Many people who work at the company might agree with this, but at the fear of losing their jobs too, might not want to speak out. I dare you to make an annonymous internal poll on the opinion of the company's employees about your performance as the company's CEO and the options you've made in the last years, and to release the results publically. Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
447
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:17:00 -
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I might've said in the thread before, there's absolutely nothing wrong with looking stylish. That said, development of the whole station thing shouldn't go before the development of spaceships.
And - yes - those people are out of the pod, that said they probably aren't involved in manual labour either. If I remember my lore right - correct me if I'm wrong - Roden being a politician and the broker one mysterious fellow that loves his jump clones. They're more likely to order people around and make spreadsheets, I'm guessing we're covered on the spreadsheet front.
Also, unless I understand it wrong - without his capsule to protect him, a pod pilot is essentially a mortal human. The pod itself does the brain scan thing when it detects a breach, the only person capable of transferring back to another body without this hardware is a DUST bunny.
Given that the scan essentially snapshots a pilot's brain and dumps it into another clone (resulting, yes, in memory loss should the clone be inferior due to it being unable to store everything transferred) while turning the previous body into a vegetable in the process it would be a nice question to ask - if you were shot outside of your pod, and your "self" not snapshotted, but your clone still woken up - would you still be you?
But yeah, that's trying to apply sense to this and it's not a wise thing to do anyway. As for the "Jesus Feature" - seems like they used the term and now everyone's tacking it on everything they develop, even though it appears to be more of a long-term plan of changes to existing gameplay elements that require changing. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |
Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
352
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Posted - 2014.01.07 18:15:00 -
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A "Jesus Feature" is any feature that promises to change the game forever as we know it. The "build your own stargates, dream with me!" is also a jesus feature just like Incarna, Tyrannis, or the Dominion were supposed to be. |
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