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Shaera Taam
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:34:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:why is it always big alliances that can only get into these and not people who do small gang PvP that don't have huge corps/alliances and 10bil isk lying around to enter the auction
was just about to point out that it's a base-20-plex from the *whole team*
if you get everyone on the team to front two plex (@17USD, iirc), then you have a really good chance of being able to bid up to a spot on the tournament
not too shabby, imho, and no giant alliance tech-fueled-bank-rolls required
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
780
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:34:00 -
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Hehe... i can aford myself 20 PLEXes or even more. |
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:35:00 -
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Jackie Fisher wrote:CCP Bro wrote:Also, if you are a small gang PVP expert there is nothing stopping you from being sponsored by an alliance or a corporation. If you don't want to be backed by a corporation/alliance, you can search for a team that has the funds available and is recruiting. If you are a top level player just start a search for a team or a search for funds. So presumably team names could be sponsored by Eve related entities as a form of advertising?
For instance that could be a selling point for a team looking for funding to join this tournament. |
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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
736
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:36:00 -
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I feel like OWN3D didn't quite grasp exactly how valuable the prizes for the Alliance Tournament are. Plus the prize pool here is basically equal to the minimum they are likely to receive in the auction, based on PLEX costing $15 each. Seems skimpy to me.
Oh well, I guess it's the first RL-cash tournament. Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
Lord Haur
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
28
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:36:00 -
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Clarification request on the Player/character thing:
Quote:Each team will consist between eight and 24 players, with eight being the minimum required team size and 24 being the maximum team size allowed. The total number of players submitted is at the discretion of the team captain. It is important to note that payment of any prize to a winning team will be paid by own3D.tv directly to all players listed in a team.
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You may have as many of your characters in a single team as your captain allows. For example, if you own 5 EVE Online accounts with three characters on each there are no restrictions on how many of those characters can be in a single team. If you feel you can multibox your way to victory against some very dedicated teams then more power to you.
Is that minimum 8, maximum 24 characters, or RL people? Extremities either way could be one person 8-boxing, or 24 people with the option to use any of their characters.
I'm presuming it's referring to player characters. |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
2093
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:37:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:Do we get the plex back if you don't get in? Like we bid 24 plex, but all other bid 55 plex, do we still ne to pay it?
Only the winner of the auction slot pays anything. Those plex would never leave your hands. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
2093
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:38:00 -
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Lord Haur wrote:Clarification request on the Player/character thing: Quote:Each team will consist between eight and 24 players, with eight being the minimum required team size and 24 being the maximum team size allowed. The total number of players submitted is at the discretion of the team captain. It is important to note that payment of any prize to a winning team will be paid by own3D.tv directly to all players listed in a team.
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You may have as many of your characters in a single team as your captain allows. For example, if you own 5 EVE Online accounts with three characters on each there are no restrictions on how many of those characters can be in a single team. If you feel you can multibox your way to victory against some very dedicated teams then more power to you. Is that minimum 8, maximum 24 characters, or RL people? Extremities either way could be one person 8-boxing, or 24 people with the option to use any of their characters. I'm presuming it's referring to player characters.
A person may have multiple characters on the same team. A person MAY NOT have ANY characters in more than one team. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
1506
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:39:00 -
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Lord Haur wrote:Clarification request on the Player/character thing: Quote:Each team will consist between eight and 24 players, with eight being the minimum required team size and 24 being the maximum team size allowed. The total number of players submitted is at the discretion of the team captain. It is important to note that payment of any prize to a winning team will be paid by own3D.tv directly to all players listed in a team.
[...]
You may have as many of your characters in a single team as your captain allows. For example, if you own 5 EVE Online accounts with three characters on each there are no restrictions on how many of those characters can be in a single team. If you feel you can multibox your way to victory against some very dedicated teams then more power to you. Is that minimum 8, maximum 24 characters, or RL people? Extremities either way could be one person 8-boxing, or 24 people with the option to use any of their characters. I'm presuming it's referring to player characters.
You presume correctly. You need to supply a minimum of 8 player characters in a team for it to be eligible. CCP Navigator -Community Manager |
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Lord Haur
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
28
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:40:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Lord Haur wrote:Clarification request on the Player/character thing: Quote:Each team will consist between eight and 24 players, with eight being the minimum required team size and 24 being the maximum team size allowed. The total number of players submitted is at the discretion of the team captain. It is important to note that payment of any prize to a winning team will be paid by own3D.tv directly to all players listed in a team.
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You may have as many of your characters in a single team as your captain allows. For example, if you own 5 EVE Online accounts with three characters on each there are no restrictions on how many of those characters can be in a single team. If you feel you can multibox your way to victory against some very dedicated teams then more power to you. Is that minimum 8, maximum 24 characters, or RL people? Extremities either way could be one person 8-boxing, or 24 people with the option to use any of their characters. I'm presuming it's referring to player characters. A person may have multiple characters on the same team. A person MAY NOT have ANY characters in more than one team. That was not my question. I was asking whether the 8-24 "player" limit per team refers to RL people or ingame characters.
edit: thanks Navigator. |
Eiluvial
Shitty Gimmick Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:42:00 -
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Sorry but the entrance format is ****.
What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?
Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.
If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.
Thats kind of bad, isnt it. |
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
75
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:44:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:
A person may have multiple characters on the same team. A person MAY NOT have ANY characters in more than one team.
I want to see someone 8-boxing versus someone else 8-boxing
1v1 XTREME edition |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
780
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:45:00 -
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Do you pland doing the bid the winner thing with prizes like during AT X ? |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
138
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:46:00 -
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This is really exciting news; can't wait for this to start! ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Harvey James
Prospero's Sight
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:48:00 -
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so will this tournie happen after the winter patch or before it would be a shame if the new cruisers didn't get in aswell as the HML/missile rebalance? |
Randomize All
State War Academy Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:48:00 -
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After that last one was destroyed by CCP Sreegs and his Goonswarm paymaster, OwnedTV clearly recognise a great opportunity when they see it. |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
2277
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:49:00 -
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Eiluvial wrote:Sorry but the entrance format is ****.
What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?
Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.
If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.
Thats kind of bad, isnt it. I would like to encourage all the illegal RMT groups in EVE to attempt to launder their ISK in this manner. What a cunning plan! What could possibly go wrong?
The Sarcasm is Strong with Me GÇó Member of CSM 5-7 GÇó Blog |
Alara IonStorm
3193
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:50:00 -
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BC Tiers.
1. 11 Points 2. 13 Points 3. 12 Points
???
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
75
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:51:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:BC Tiers.
1. 11 Points 2. 13 Points 3. 12 Points
???
3 = easy to kill, but high damage, usually more useful than tier 1 BC, but not as well rounded as tier 2. (12) 2 = good at everything (13) 1 = some of them suck, some of them are decent, but they are generally worse than tier 2 counterpart (11)
is this reasonable explanation? |
Alara IonStorm
3193
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:53:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:BC Tiers.
1. 11 Points 2. 13 Points 3. 12 Points
???
3 = easy to kill, but high damage, usually more useful than tier 1 BC, but not as well rounded as tier 2. (12) 2 = good at everything (13) 1 = some of them suck, some of them are decent, but they are generally worse than tier 2 counterpart (11) is this reasonable explanation? Nope, fair bit of that is wrong.
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Sephira Galamore
Nemesis Holdings Corp Luna Sanguinem
34
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:54:00 -
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Eiluvial wrote:Sorry but the entrance format is ****.
What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?
Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.
If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.
Thats kind of bad, isnt it. CCP might, you know. |
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
887
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:58:00 -
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20 PLEX to even have a chance?
Whatever.
Alliance tournament 2.0.
I've already lost interest in how gameable this will be as soon as real life money hits the table.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Eiluvial
Shitty Gimmick Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:58:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Eiluvial wrote:Sorry but the entrance format is ****.
What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?
Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.
If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.
Thats kind of bad, isnt it. I would like to encourage all the illegal RMT groups in EVE to attempt to launder their ISK in this manner. What a cunning plan! What could possibly go wrong?
Like lets assume a spot is on average 40 PLEX - my guess is that it will be lower, but if you look at ATX and how much those places went for(in the end almost all close to minimum) (hell the last spot didnt get sold because no one wanted it and devs had to do another auction) and compare to ATX prices (trillions of ISK worth of stuff - way better prices than this tournament) then at a PLEXprice of 550, thats only 704b.
Individuals in Goonswarm have that much. PL can buy out the tournament twice if they wanted to. Pretty sure the highest wallet was around 3t if i remember the statistic tweets correctly. (Dont quote me on this)
Isn't this just going to be another, more "elite" Alliance Tournament, where Alliances can legally enter more teams? At half the spots of ATX but without restriction to one team/alliance isn't this the exact opposite of ATX rules with Hydra being kicked out?
What if the final is going to be another ATIX final with an "A-Team" fighting against a "B-Team"? |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
887
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:02:00 -
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Eiluvial wrote:Sorry but the entrance format is ****.
What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?
Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.
If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.
Thats kind of bad, isnt it.
This is still valid and has nothing to do with "RMT" business, it has to do with a Trillion ISK alliance buying all the slots in order to ensure they get 32 teams in
32 teams * 20 plex and auction up = 1T ISK. The CFC can easily buy almost all of the teams just based on the bidding alone.
Sorry, I dislike this whole idea as presented. This is for null sec alliances and Somer Blink.
Everyone else can **** off realistically. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
677
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:03:00 -
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Eiluvial wrote:What if the final is going to be another ATIX final with an "A-Team" fighting against a "B-Team"?
Well, with it being real money, going direct to the real person, it's a trifle more difficult to get people to throw the game
FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
1507
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:05:00 -
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Eiluvial wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Eiluvial wrote:Sorry but the entrance format is ****.
What stops an entity from registering 32 teams to RMT 10000$ legally?
Like if someone were to buy every spot at 30PLEX each. Thats 528b ISK total at 550m/PLEX for 10k $, at a rate of close to 19$ per billion ISK I'm sure some people will think about it, especially when it's legal.
If someone wants to bankroll the entire tournament they can do it. It's entirely possible that a single entity buys all spots.
Thats kind of bad, isnt it. I would like to encourage all the illegal RMT groups in EVE to attempt to launder their ISK in this manner. What a cunning plan! What could possibly go wrong? Like lets assume a spot is on average 40 PLEX - my guess is that it will be lower, but if you look at ATX and how much those places went for(in the end almost all close to minimum) (hell the last spot didnt get sold because no one wanted it and devs had to do another auction) and compare to ATX prices (trillions of ISK worth of stuff - way better prices than this tournament) then at a PLEXprice of 550, thats only 704b. Individuals in Goonswarm have that much. PL can buy out the tournament twice if they wanted to. Pretty sure the highest wallet was around 3t if i remember the statistic tweets correctly. (Dont quote me on this) Isn't this just going to be another, more "elite" Alliance Tournament, where Alliances can legally enter more teams? At half the spots of ATX but without restriction to one team/alliance isn't this the exact opposite of ATX rules with Hydra being kicked out? What if the final is going to be another ATIX final with an "A-Team" fighting against a "B-Team"?
I think you are looking at a hyper worst case scenario. While it is possible for a super rich alliance to attempt to buy every slot, it would not be cost effective for them to do so.
We are breaking new ground here with EVE tournaments and we will be analyzing every aspect of how teams are formed and how they participate in the event.
CCP Navigator -Community Manager |
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Tetsel
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
35
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:05:00 -
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Damn will be away for this one... I hope Blue Lagoon hotel have a good internet connection to watch this live... Twitter:-á-á-á-á@EVE_Tetsel-á-á-á@HereticArmy |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
887
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:05:00 -
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32 Teams * 30 Plex average (just putting this out there) = 960 plex * $ 20 = $19,200 in PLEX for $10,000 in rewards.
Clueless.
480,000,000,000 (480 Billion ISK) minimum entry fee. Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
206
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:07:00 -
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Ship banning will cause lots of tears |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Ascendance.
382
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:08:00 -
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I was looking for a winter feature devblog |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
887
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:08:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:
I think you are looking at a hyper worst case scenario. While it is possible for a super rich alliance to attempt to buy every slot, it would not be cost effective for them to do so.
We are breaking new ground here with EVE tournaments and we will be analyzing every aspect of how teams are formed and how they participate in the event.
Why isn't it cost effective? Even at 50% conversion rate from ISK to US$ that's better than 0 conversion rate.
I would take a trillion ISK and buy all the teams to make $10,000. Because if I can make a trillion, I can make a trillion more.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
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