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Joe Din
The Hollow Men
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:25:00 -
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+1 |
Captain Kanki
ReSpawners Choke Point
5
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:37:00 -
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+1 |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1330
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Posted - 2012.10.14 02:58:00 -
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+1
This is another case of the players saying "wait that bit won't turn out good" and CCP going on with it. |
amidaros veleta
Unfortunate Soldiers
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 08:52:00 -
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i think that they should just fix it by allowing the agressor to retract the war, and make it so that once a corp is dec'd it can join an alliance but that alliance cannot have corps drop while it is at war... Basically if the defender wants help (from an alliance) the alliance has to man up and take responsibility for the war. thus no corps dropping |
NP Complete
Valkyrie Industries Valkyrie Coalition
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 09:39:00 -
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+1
This needs to be fixed. |
Cpt Roghie
Deadly Shadow Clan Silent Infinity
60
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Posted - 2012.10.14 09:53:00 -
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Not working as intended, but hilarious nonetheless.
Maybe our current wardeckers feel like welping more tengus This could be fun. |
Anthar Thebess
REPUBLIKA ORLA C0VEN
22
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Posted - 2012.10.15 06:45:00 -
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+1 |
Viktor Fel
Viziam Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:27:00 -
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+ 9001 |
Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
323
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Posted - 2012.10.17 18:30:00 -
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+1.
Would be nice if they looked at mutual wars allowing free wars too, while rvb loves pew, all these wars soon add up. Mangala is not FC, yet another randomly updated EVE blog.
http://mangala.rvbganked.co.uk/ |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
691
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Posted - 2012.10.18 00:18:00 -
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Locking a wardeccing corporation by making the war mutual is IMHO a very important feature. The 'biting-off-more-then-you-can-chew' risk provides crucial balance to the initiative advantage the aggressor has and THIS NEEDS TO STAY!
This is also why it should be possible to hire allies or join an alliance, even in a mutualized war, rewarding those few defending corporations that decide to fight back properly instead of hiding in newbie corporations and whining about it on the forums how wardecss are 'unfair'.
As an agressor, being locking into a mutual war with a corp that then goes into hibernation is simply the risk of agression. But I do think mutual wars should be 'confirmed' every month or so, to end wars with corporations that are completely dead. The test-server showed that there are still wars going on from 2005 of corps that are now long dead and forgotten.
The fixed need though (and it seems like an easy one) is to simple make the war follow the original defender, extending to any alliance it joins, but not remaining 'copied' there (except for a cool-down period) when the original defender leaves again.
Why isn't this fixed yet, CCP? Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
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Zwo Zateki
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.10.20 18:17:00 -
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Remove non-mutual wardecs altogether. Paying wardec fee is bribing CONCORD. I don't know how THIS is supposed to fit into highsec lore and essence. |
DarhtVaderrin
Rorqual Industry Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.10.22 08:50:00 -
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My suggestion would be to rebuild the war system so that it is the defender Corp. also not allowed to join an alliance, so you can prevent the Free duplicate wars, further in the case of a mutual war, Members of the Defenders Corp. does not leave the Corporation. To prevent that the old chars parked in the Corporation so that the war can be kept on the run. If you already take a mutual war so you should also take the blood flowing. With usage of the option of mutual war, should the war until after the period of 7 days, can be removed again.
and check this lolz Mail from my mutal Target _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Von: FleetAdmiralHarper Gesendet: 2012.10.22 04:53 An: DarhtVaderrin,
so i see you left dabrid. and you know i was being serious when i said i would destroy your corp.
NOW its good that you left dabrid. how ever. you still need to pay me 2.5b, i wont have you publically apologise for your insolence, i think you losing your corp was an adequate substitute.
after i get the 2.5b i will let you drop the war from CINR and accept your surrender. as an added bonus ill see if i can get 1 or 2 corps off you : )
i cant get them all, because some are random. but i can pull atleast 2 off you. if not ill just hunt you, and your members and bring war and chaos to your new corps =) fun and lulz for every one =)))))))!!!
what are your intentions? ____________________ |
Reppyk
The Black Shell
188
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Posted - 2012.10.22 10:48:00 -
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DarhtVaderrin wrote:My suggestion would be to rebuild the war system so that it is the defender Corp. also not allowed to join an alliance, so you can prevent the Free duplicate wars, further in the case of a mutual war, This is bad and you should feel bad. Corps in a wardec should be able to join an alliance. CCP isn't allowing it for agressors because :game design failure: but removing it for the defender is even worst.
Easy fix : remove the mutual wardec mechanism, lower the wardec fees (so RvB can still pewpew without paying billions of isks each month) and allow a defender to pay the wardec fee itself (so if you want to counter-grief the "griefers", feel free to do so) maybe at a lower cost [half cost ?]. |
DarhtVaderrin
Rorqual Industry Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.10.22 11:44:00 -
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This is bad and you should feel bad. Corps in a wardec should be able to join an alliance. CCP isn't allowing it for agressors because :game design failure: but removing it for the defender is even worst.
are you ******* kidding me ? i have many wars not targets all targtes jion a alliance left the alliance and leave the corp , this is not a war this is bullshit all wt`s go into a npc corp and i can not jion a alliance you tell me this is a good wardec mechanism ? |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
316
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Posted - 2012.10.23 21:20:00 -
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I'm editing the original post to add another bug. With the toggling mutual option, the right click mutual menu doesn't function at all. This has led to much confusion for people that leave Dec Shield. The only option that does work is to use the drop down menu at the far right side and to uncheck the mutual box:
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/1210/togglingUnmutual.jpg Burn Highsec Griefers |
Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
83
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Posted - 2012.10.24 00:27:00 -
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Being brought into the Dec Shield mutual war circle jerk by a Dec Shield Ambassador corp has educated us on how broken the new war system is. Please fix this broken mechanic.
Also being told by a GM this is working is intended is pretty silly, I'd be really surprised if they didn't fix this in december. Confederation of xXPIZZAXx CEO A TRUE and HONEST girl gamer. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
710
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Posted - 2012.10.24 09:56:00 -
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Junko Sideswipe wrote:Being brought into the Dec Shield mutual war circle jerk by a Dec Shield Ambassador corp has educated us on how broken the new war system is. Please fix this broken mechanic.
Also being told by a GM this is working is intended is pretty silly, I'd be really surprised if they didn't fix this in december.
Well be ready to surprised then. Considering the mess he made, CCP SoniClover probably isn't up to task. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade Intrepid Crossing
431
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Posted - 2012.10.24 14:10:00 -
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Zwo Zateki wrote:Remove non-mutual wardecs altogether. Paying wardec fee is bribing CONCORD. I don't know how THIS is supposed to fit into highsec lore and essence.
I look at it as being similar to obtaining a Letter of Marque and Reprisal from a government here on Earth. Basically, you're getting Concord's permission to be a little naughty, and as long as you do so within the rules they give you, they won't OMGWTFBBQPWN you for it. Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't. |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
320
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Posted - 2012.10.25 08:47:00 -
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The message for booting corps from alliance conveys incorrect information as well:
"If you kick this corporation out of the alliance they will still be in all wars, that are currently ongoing for the alliance. The wars will be copied over to the corporation being kicked out and they will be automatically retracted. Are you sure you want to throw them out?"
The wars are not automatically retracted. That's the old system that auto retracted the wars. The text message needs to be updated.
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/1210/retracted.jpg Burn Highsec Griefers |
Viktor Fel
Dred Nots
10
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Posted - 2012.10.26 20:01:00 -
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Fixing the DEC Shield/War Dec exploits should be a priority I believe. |
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Tetsuigablm
Lianowar Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.10.27 10:18:00 -
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When the leader of the abusers is saying it needs to get fixes, it should probably get fixed, just saying, get on it ccp, seriously... filed a petition today, the only way they are going to wake up is if we stand together with one voice
EVERYONE file petitions, 1-5 a day is swept under the rug make it hundreds, thousands, and they will listen.
Or they can give up my corps sub fees, and im sure others as well, its up to them really. |
NinjaTurtle
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
23
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Posted - 2012.10.27 20:50:00 -
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+1 |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2012.10.28 11:13:00 -
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I wonder how long it will take CCP to fix the freaking game.
Right now the corp that decced someone and got into infinite war bug cant join alliance ever. But hey we will got round HUD targets , that surely counts for something ?? |
BigBelly Jackles
CareBear Financial Associates The Foundation To Protect Endangered CareBears
0
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Posted - 2012.10.29 02:11:00 -
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Our Alliance has been forced into a war with Dec Shield. We got into this mess after War Decing a bot mining corporation. After bumping their ships, after mining over top of them for months, they still bot. We thought about ganking them, but didnt want to hurt our security status. A war dec seemed like the logical choice. Now the war will end for them, they will go back to botting and we are stuck in a war we don't want to be in.
I have read the proposed changes and I think they make sense. We should not be forced into a never ending war like this.
While I have been typing, a corporation just left Dec Shield and we are now at war with someone we never declared war on(octopus).
These mechanics need to change. I'm afraid that even if CCP bans these bot miners, our war (which should be over at that point) will continue and cause our young member to leave us and move on.
The more pressure we can put on this issue, the better chance we have of getting something changed.
Please support Dec Shields drive to make a change.
BigBelly |
Malchristus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.10.30 01:57:00 -
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Where are the CSM and the Devs on this?
This is the singularly most abused and broken continual gameplay mechanic in the game and yet they are never anywhere to be seen on the topic.
+1 to the OP -10 to the CSM (we still have one right?) and -100 AGAIN to CCP for trying to achieve one goal and by not thinking it through property, AGAIN, achieving exactly the opposite effect AGAIN! |
Malchristus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.10.30 01:59:00 -
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Malchristus wrote:Where are the CSM and the Devs on this?
This is the singularly most abused and broken continual gameplay mechanic in the game and yet they are never anywhere to be seen on the topic.
+1 to the OP -10 to the CSM (we still have one right?) and -100 AGAIN to CCP for trying to achieve one goal and by not thinking it through property, AGAIN, achieving exactly the opposite effect AGAIN!
BTW I don't want to walk around in stations, fight a fail fight on a PS3 or see pretty trails coming out of the back of my ship, I just want you to fix what is broken NOW before you go on to make something else that will be broken. |
Gate Green
Unity Holdings Ushra'Khan
0
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Posted - 2012.10.30 22:55:00 -
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I happen to agree at the moment that the "aggressor" needs to be able to shut down a wardec like this. I will +1 dec shield for catching U'K in the wardec, and -infinity to CCP on two fronts:
1. Allowing this to happen in the first place. 2. Being unable to deal with the wardec as a harassment complaint, when it's clearly stated, that this is mechanic abuse, done deliberately, nothing can be done by the GM's. Gogo CCP! |
Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
229
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Posted - 2012.10.31 00:16:00 -
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Yeah, month and a half old here, been away from a week and about to log in, find out that the FW based wardec we had going has now gone into a meltdown of decshield, with the original party STILL not even at mutual war with us, and now I can't even THINK of undocking unless I want to deal with every ******** who uses decshield for lulzkills gunning for me whenever I undock at any time, in any ship, anywhere for any reason.
Yeah ******* good game CCP. |
Ragnar STS
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
47
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Posted - 2012.10.31 00:46:00 -
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+1 to OP for actually working out the mechanics and finding the exploit -infinity to CCP for not contemplating this mechanic
In general I like shooting at people and being shot at. This is kind of dumb though. Ragnar can stand....but my $$ paying alt-army might lapse for a while come december if they can't undock.
Though I do look forward to the bounty system going into action on the OP. :) |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
356
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Posted - 2012.10.31 12:23:00 -
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It seems it's still possible to leave dead corps floating all over the place, including inside an alliance.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Wong_Wing_Corporation
This could potentially be very useful for us, as we could keep a bunch of dead corps in alliance to maintain majority vote for executorship, without actually dedicating any characters to it. We'll have to test whether or not their votes actually still contribute to ownership of an alliance...
The procedure for re-creating this bug is to have a corp apply to join the alliance, then have them close out the corp, and it will join the alliance as a dead corp. Downtime does not seem to wipe the corp from existence. Burn Highsec Griefers |
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