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TriadSte
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.24 23:05:00 -
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Yesterday was pi$$ poor, had a group of Chinese following us and instead of doing the incursions they were hammering the Sansha facility within the mission area. Is this deemed Illegal as I believe it to be?
If so it has to be stopped right away.
Also get them off our servers they're a pain in the a$$
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Nimzi
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Posted - 2011.08.24 23:13:00 -
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What does the nationality of those players have to do with anything?
If they were Brazilian, would you be calling for a system wide deletion of all players from Brazil?
What if they were all Jewish? Would you say that they should all go?
What if they were all women? Would your wittle panties be all bunched up because you got shown up by hotties in space?
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Bear Templar
Reality Dysfunction Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.24 23:20:00 -
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Maybe they thought you were someone else with your name.
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Dorian Wylde
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Posted - 2011.08.24 23:23:00 -
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Without addressing the blatant and idiotic racism in the OP, what exactly is the issue with attacking the facility?
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Kogh Ayon
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Posted - 2011.08.24 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: TriadSte Yesterday was pi$$ poor, had a group of Chinese following us and instead of doing the incursions they were hammering the Sansha facility within the mission area. Is this deemed Illegal as I believe it to be?
If so it has to be stopped right away.
Also get them off our servers they're a pain in the a$$
How do you know that they are Chinese? I put some Russian in my bio then I am a Russian?
Also talking about exploit against the forum rule, wait for your lock
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Sgt Blade
Caldari Save Yourself Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.24 23:37:00 -
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lol with a name like that, you should also get off the server if the Chinese have to as well
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Bane Necran
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.24 23:56:00 -
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I think it was an Asian gang or something... There was this guy, he looked Asian... and he was speaking another language, I'm pretty sure it was... Asian.
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.08.25 00:37:00 -
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Bwaaa there is someone in my instance! CCP ban him for ruining my instanced sweet instance!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.08.25 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: TriadSte Is this deemed Illegal as I believe it to be?
Nope, you believed wrong. _
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Ildryn
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Posted - 2011.08.25 03:22:00 -
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If they were Chinese. And in China. You could actually do a little something. If you were willing to push hard enough.
Chinese are not allowed to play mmos outside of china. If they were in fact in Tranquility then they are breaking their national law. Save the user names and begin your assault. Have your wallet ready.
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Pytria Le'Danness
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Posted - 2011.08.25 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dorian Wylde Without addressing the blatant and idiotic racism in the OP, what exactly is the issue with attacking the facility?
Damage to the facility counts as damage against the Sansha, likely without triggering much aggro from the NPCs. Shooting the structures has been tipping the balance if two fleets compete for a site, but it's heavily frowned upon and seen as a loser's move. Maybe if enough damage is done to the structure you can win a site without ever shooting one NPC, I am not sure.
However, if you have a big enough fleet to do enough damage to win by structure - why not shoot the NPCs in the first place?
But IMO CCP should lower the hps on the structures to prevent this, or increase their resistances. It makes no sense to have them this tough in Incursions where they are just decoration.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.08.25 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: Estephania on 25/08/2011 05:21:55 Ohh, look. Someone mentions someone's nationality and the PC apes are already jumping out of the cages.
And mentioning nationality is completely justified here as we have in Eve 2 distinct groups of players with "ISK by all means" mentality. I'm not saying that some players from any country cannot and don't behave by the same pattern, but it's the numbers do speak for themselves here. |
Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2011.08.25 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania Edited by: Estephania on 25/08/2011 05:21:55 And mentioning nationality is completely justified here as we have in Eve 2 distinct groups of players with "ISK by all means" mentality. I'm not saying that some players from any country cannot and don't behave by the same pattern, but it's the numbers do speak for themselves here.
Do they?
Can you actually provide hard numbers to show that EVE players from a particular country or region tend to operate by a certain mentality?
Also, this is EVE. Saying someone is trying to make "ISK by all means" is hardly unusual. Or even frowned upon.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.08.25 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shaalira D'arc
Originally by: Estephania Edited by: Estephania on 25/08/2011 05:21:55 And mentioning nationality is completely justified here as we have in Eve 2 distinct groups of players with "ISK by all means" mentality. I'm not saying that some players from any country cannot and don't behave by the same pattern, but it's the numbers do speak for themselves here.
Do they?
Can you actually provide hard numbers to show that EVE players from a particular country or region tend to operate by a certain mentality?
Also, this is EVE. Saying someone is trying to make "ISK by all means" is hardly unusual. Or even frowned upon.
I'm sure CCP can provide the numbers, but they'll never do it. As for "ISK by all means" I mean getting ISK by bending the rules and sometimes crossing the boundary between legal and illegal. After all it boils down to the opportunity cost. Let's be honest - making ISK in Eve is as entertaining as watching the paint dry. I can do missions, or trade for a while, but those activities are boring as hell. So, to make ISK, I can do that, or sell PLEX. But if in your country RMT'ing or going to a crappy low wage job would give the same RL money reward, what would you do? So, I'm not blaming those players for what they are doing as they are living in a conditions very different from what we know, but their behavior is damaging the game regardless of motives or reasons.
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AnzacPaul
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.08.25 05:54:00 -
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to the op, sucked in, no ones here to babysit you. ______ Important stuff up there ^ ^ |
Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.25 05:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 25/08/2011 05:55:26
Originally by: Estephania I'm sure CCP can provide the numbers
So that's a ônoö then.
No, nationality is completely irrelevant, nor does an issue even exist that would make it matter in the slightest anyway. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:01:00 -
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大家好. 我道少中文. 我是一个美国人.
This means:
Hello everybody. I know a little Chinese. I am American.
Which is true. I'm white as rice in a glass of milk on a paper plate in a snowstorm. Yet I know how to speak (and read/write) some Chinese. I am even better with Spanish, too.
You shouldn't be so quick to judge someone based on their language. If I knew enough Chinese to communicate with people in game, I would gladly be doing just that. None of that makes me Chinese nor does it make anything that I do illegal.
Please don't jump to conclusions. It makes you look ignorant. . |
Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 25/08/2011 05:55:26
Originally by: Estephania I'm sure CCP can provide the numbers
So that's a ônoö then.
No, nationality is completely irrelevant, nor does an issue even exist that would make it matter in the slightest anyway.
I already understand that you are afraid even to look at the matter. Unfortunately the PC crowd are so terrified of by mistake calling an innocent a perpetrator that they prefer to call the perpetrator innocent. What we have here is just a symptom of "everything's equal" mentality. And while nationalities are indeed equal, mentalities, traditions, living conditions, cultures and (god forbid) religions are not. To say it in a language that PC guys will understand - no one is saying that some nationality is worse or better than others, but living conditions are different and those define behavior and motives.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania I already understand that you are afraid even to look at the matter.
So, still a ônoö then.
So nationality is still completely irrelevant. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:19:00 -
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Ah don't you just love racial/nationalistic stereotyping. Really shows who's the real idiot in the group.
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Ammzi
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ammzi on 25/08/2011 06:20:52 YES - It is deemed an exploit by CCP and is therefore breaking game rules to shoot structures in order to gain DPS count in the site to win. EXPLOIT - confirmed by several GM's.
It is supposedly fixed by CCP though ....
ps: looking aside the strange racism o.0
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Estephania I already understand that you are afraid even to look at the matter.
So, still a ônoö then.
So nationality is still completely irrelevant.
Sorry, I'm not going to do CCP job and collect data on every sploiter, botter and RMT'er in the game. I'm sure you understand what I mean, but you can't agree with me because of that "everything's equal" mantra. So, we'll never agree here, but at least I know I see the world as it is, not through some liberal rosy glasses, and I don't have the risk of being woken up from a left wing inflicted anabiosis when a bomb is detonated in my neighborhood by someone's who's absolutely "equal" to me. And by the way in what I'm saying there's absolutely no racism or nationalism, you'd better learn the real meaning of those two things.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:33:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 25/08/2011 06:32:47
Originally by: Estephania Sorry, I'm not going to do CCP job and collect data on every sploiter, botter and RMT'er in the game.
So most definitely a ônoö then.
So nationality is most definitely not relevant. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:45:00 -
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Edited by: Estephania on 25/08/2011 06:45:27
Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 25/08/2011 06:32:47
Originally by: Estephania Sorry, I'm not going to do CCP job and collect data on every sploiter, botter and RMT'er in the game.
So most definitely a ônoö then.
So nationality is most definitely not relevant.
Keep repeating that. It may become true (or not). If you didn't know, there's more than one "nationality" in China, but I guess you don't know that and when someone says "nationality" it may not mean some genetic differences, it can be the country of residence or something like that. In any case, you keep calling black white and white black and if the facts go against your beliefs than it's too bad for the facts. I guess you are from the same crowd that when hear that crime rates are higher among immigrants from certain countries you demand a detailed report with the name of every criminal for the last 50 years from the area (and even when you see it you say that's it's the fault of society as a whole) or else it's nationalism.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.25 06:48:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 25/08/2011 06:48:16
Originally by: Estephania Keep repeating that.
I will, since you have made it quite clear that it's true. You have no numbers. You've explained how nationality is not relevant.
You've also rambled a lot and spouted various nonsensical assumptions, but that is even less relevant to the question at hand, so there's little to no point in commenting on it (wellà beyond saying this). ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Tirane Merkator
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Posted - 2011.08.25 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tirane Merkator on 25/08/2011 08:42:24
Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 25/08/2011 06:32:47
Originally by: Estephania Sorry, I'm not going to do CCP job and collect data on every sploiter, botter and RMT'er in the game.
So most definitely a ônoö then.
So nationality is most definitely not relevant.
my god, even reading your idiotic repetitions get on my nerves. live in your dreamworld. facts are facts. or why oh why are there whole firmfarms of farming chinese children so that the western people can buy ingame stuff with rl money. where even in prisons the inmates have to play games during the night and hard labor on the day. but i'm sure you even believe that the conditions in the prisons are all the same... or in russia, where little children with no family and no homes have to sleep in a pack of 10 to survive the cold night... now i go work a day for 250 swiss francs, that's over 300 dollars now. i doubt the average chinese even earns that much in a month, maybe even in a year, yet they pay the same amount monthly to ccp as every other user worldwide. put 1 and 1 together and you will know why certain "nationalities" show certain behaviour in games... the expression "chinese farmer" didn't come from itself you know? if you don't see that and just ask for lolproof which you know, no player can get, then you are just a little nag who likes to step on peoples toes, which btw stands not for your hippy stand of your worldview...
haha, just read the corp from your char: sunshine and lolipops... ooooooooooooooooook
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.25 08:59:00 -
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ITT: Many racists try to justify their racism by spouting stereotypes and name-calling.
Tippia's right on this one, stop trying to justify your blantant racism. |
Tirane Merkator
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Feligast ITT: Many racists try to justify their racism by spouting stereotypes and name-calling.
Tippia's right on this one, stop trying to justify your blantant racism.
facts and the "you're a racist/antisemite" card... the old game... |
Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:04:00 -
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Facts? Show me one. All you've produced is hearsay and slander. |
Tirane Merkator
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:06:00 -
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Edited by: Tirane Merkator on 25/08/2011 09:08:33 Edited by: Tirane Merkator on 25/08/2011 09:07:48
Originally by: Feligast Facts? Show me one. All you've produced is hearsay and slander.
there: 30 seconds google:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/25/china-prisoners-internet-gaming-scam
now show me some western news about this ey?
edit: or here a german report with hidden camera of such a gaming firm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81cmmJiHEGI |
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Doctor Deals
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:07:00 -
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TriadSte = Tippia
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tirane Merkator Edited by: Tirane Merkator on 25/08/2011 09:08:33 Edited by: Tirane Merkator on 25/08/2011 09:07:48
Originally by: Feligast Facts? Show me one. All you've produced is hearsay and slander.
there: 30 seconds google:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/25/china-prisoners-internet-gaming-scam
now show me some western news about this ey?
edit: or here a german report with hidden camera of such a gaming firm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81cmmJiHEGI
And which of these mentions Eve, and specifically Incursions?
Try again.
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Tirane Merkator
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Feligast
Originally by: Tirane Merkator Edited by: Tirane Merkator on 25/08/2011 09:08:33 Edited by: Tirane Merkator on 25/08/2011 09:07:48
Originally by: Feligast Facts? Show me one. All you've produced is hearsay and slander.
there: 30 seconds google:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/25/china-prisoners-internet-gaming-scam
now show me some western news about this ey?
edit: or here a german report with hidden camera of such a gaming firm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81cmmJiHEGI
And which of these mentions Eve, and specifically Incursions?
Try again.
no i won't because you will nag me to death. if you don't want to see it, fine by me, just never get out the "you're a racist" card when adults are talking, k?
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tirane Merkator my god, even reading your idiotic repetitions get on my nerves. live in your dreamworld. facts are facts.
Yes. And those facts are, as Estephania so nicely showed, that (s)he has no numbers and that nationality is not relevant.
ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Tirane Merkator
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Tirane Merkator my god, even reading your idiotic repetitions get on my nerves. live in your dreamworld. facts are facts.
Yes. And those facts are, as Estephania so nicely showed, that (s)he has no numbers and that nationality is not relevant.
where can i get someone ignored in this forum?
thanks in advance.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tirane Merkator where can i get someone ignored in this forum?
Ignoring facts is generally a bad thing, so why would you want to do that? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Tirane Merkator
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Posted - 2011.08.25 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Tirane Merkator on 25/08/2011 09:37:35
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Tirane Merkator where can i get someone ignored in this forum?
Ignoring facts is generally a bad thing, so why would you want to do that?
every morning you get up and watch yourself in the mirror you should say this to yourself 3 times in a row. every day. maybe someday... one can dream.
btw. my question isn't answered.
edit: now seriously i invested 5 minutes of my precious time, is there no ignore function in this forum????
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.25 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tirane Merkator every morning you get up and watch yourself in the mirror you should say this to yourself 3 times in a row. every day. maybe someday... one can dream.
Nah. Ignorance isn't really a dream of mine.
Quote: btw. my question isn't answered.
That's because you can't ù you have to develop such a function for yourself. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.08.25 10:23:00 -
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If incursions taught you one thing, it's that getting 1000 carebears to cry simultaneously at CCP gets results. Positive results. Quickly.
So what you need to do is to raise the noise level. Go into every incursion you can find and shoot the structures. When they whine, tell them you need a threadnought to get this ridonkulous situation changed, get them to join in, spread it like virus.
With enough whining about things that are nothing to do with the NeX store, CCP will fold like a house of cards. Checkmate. 100% success rate on non-nex whinefests so far. Don't mock the threadnought. |
WeirdNoise
Caldari tagueuletoi
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Posted - 2011.08.25 10:27:00 -
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The Chinese really have a different mindset and gameplay.
To quote myself from another thread :
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You have NO idea what it's like on the chinese server.
There are Chinese players on Tranquility indeed, ask them how life is on the chinese server side.
News we got from one of them years ago :
- 2 mega-alliances own everything - CEO of alliance n¦1 is also CEO of an ISKselling company (a real one, out of game). - players are forced to slave for one of the two alliances - those who try to play independently are "harvested" every day. It's the word he used, he said they call it "the harvest".
Every morning, alliance PKs roam the galaxy in search of non-affiliated players and make short work of them. These alliance PKs do nothing but PKing, their ships and equipment being provided by their alliance.
In short, the Chinese are hyper collectivistic imperialistic slaveminded nutjobs and you do NOT want them over here. Except that it would surely make for an interesting cultural clash, it might likely ruin 99% of western players' gameplay.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.08.25 10:34:00 -
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This argument had shown just one more time that arguing with a liberal is pointless as liberalism is a religion. After all, you are not going to argue about Christianity with a Christian or about Islam with a Muslim. Liberalism is the same. It has a number of dogmas which cannot be refuted. One of those - everything's equal. Another one - all ppl are the same and share the same values. There's probably more, but those two were clearly demonstrated by Tippia in this thread.
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Aramatheia
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Posted - 2011.08.25 10:35:00 -
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make shooting structures in any incursion where the structure is not the end target (aka anything but those HQ sites) a concord triggering event but without issuing a warning box.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.25 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania After all, you are not going to argue about Christianity with a Christian or about Islam with a Muslim.
Of course you are. Otherwise, where's the fun?
At any rate, you've provided ample proof that you have no numbers and that nationality doesn't matter. That was really all that was asked of you (granted, you probably tried to do the exact opposite, but that's just how it goes sometimes). ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.25 10:57:00 -
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Im racist against forum whiners. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.25 11:17:00 -
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Thread locked as it lacks any meaningful content.
Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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