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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 14:07:16
Greetings. As I have explained in my previous offering (I don't actually know the term for what i'm doing here cept borrowing money) which you can view HERE, I currently have access and the logistics necessary for stockpiling a market that is in really high demand of almost everything, but mostly ships. For obvious reasons I'm not gonna even hint towards where this is taking place.
Brief history of previous offering: I have raised 2Bil on the forums and I have contributed myself with a sum close to that one, just a bit less and in less than 2 weeks I have managed to earn enough profit to pay off the investors with a 1 percent bonus compensation for a slight delay due to RL work issues and also repay the debt in full.
Besides that, with a roughly 4 Bil capital I managed to secure a profit (after paying off everyone) of aprox 1.5 Bil. Would have been 2 or more had I not been carried away with work in the last 2 weeks.
What I am asking for:
Investors. As many as it takes to raise 4 or 5 Bil. I will be contributing with at least 4 myself which I have from my previous endeavor.
200mil minimum investment (less than that makes me copy paste the thank you letters after)
Regarding collateral, I hold a few(12) Tengus with subsystems in a 0.0 sov space that I can get out in case they need to be sold and some faction mods in high-sec space, but I have successfully dealt with trust with a handful of people and that worked out the best for me. I'm not a person with much free time and I like to keep track of simple things.
As stated in the previous topic which I liked above, API's are out of the question.
What I'm offering:
14 percent interest over 3 weeks. 7 percent if you want to withdraw after 12 days. Withdrawals sooner than 12 days from the ISK transfer will NOT happen unless you agree to not getting any profit;
Open relationship(this also means I can have sex with other people). If you convo me when you see me in-game I will gladly update you on the current situation and answer any questions you might have.(except stuff like "where are you selling/who is ur trading char etc);
If you agree to the following terms feel free to post here(also eve mail/convo) your sum from the character that will send me the money. The money can be sent starting today 07 - AUG - 2011 and will be returned in exactly 3 weeks(21 days) - or 12 days if you go down that path from the moment I will confirm the receival of the funds both in game and here on the forums.
I will log in daily so this should not be an inconvenient. I will not take investments in 2 days from now and onwards. I have to know what to stockpile on or not. I'm not making a hundred trips especially that it takes a united effort to haul them ships.
ps: for those who wish to be anonymous send me just an eve-mail. no need to post. otherwise I would request everything to be trasparent.
Thank you in advance for the read and looking forward to working with a bunch of serious people again.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Open relationship(this also means I can have sex with other people).
Forced monogamy is for the impractical and the insecure. I know our love is forever, so I have no problem with this.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.07 14:49:00 -
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Debating how much to invest atm, but I a question:
How long do you intend to run back to back bonds? I understand wanting to exploit a situation and make as much profit off of it as possible, I'm just curious as to your long-term intentions for borrowing.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tigerras
How long do you intend to run back to back bonds? I understand wanting to exploit a situation and make as much profit off of it as possible, I'm just curious as to your long-term intentions for borrowing.
In all likelihood the intention is to build up credibility and walk away with a large sum. This is the case for most offerings in this forum. When you choose to invest in a public offering you are realistically gambling that the individual offering is not yet the cash-out scam.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.07 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Tigerras
How long do you intend to run back to back bonds? I understand wanting to exploit a situation and make as much profit off of it as possible, I'm just curious as to your long-term intentions for borrowing.
In all likelihood the intention is to build up credibility and walk away with a large sum. This is the case for most offerings in this forum. When you choose to invest in a public offering you are realistically gambling that the individual offering is not yet the cash-out scam.
So what's your intention in MD?
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tigerras
So what's your intention in MD?
I came to find out what happened to Kalrand's bonds, and I stayed to never stop posting.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 15:21:00 -
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Most likely 1 or 2 max. I am gearing up for a PvP "season" in end September when I'm taking 1 month off work I wanna buy myself something special.
And I understand the concerns regarding running with the cash at some point but the only thing I can say regarding this is that I hold in my hands assets worth way more than anything I could get scamming for 6 months here :p But I don't want to end my eve career, that's all.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe
And I understand the concerns regarding running with the cash at some point but the only thing I can say regarding this is that I hold in my hands assets worth way more than anything I could get scamming for 6 months here :p But I don't want to end my eve career, that's all.
This is not as sound an argument as it may initially appear for two reasons: First, if you have more than a few billion then you are not limited to a single character. Once you get above twenty billion ISK in this game the concept of a "main" character is by choice rather than necessity. Second, it is exceedingly easy to continue playing the gamełand even continue being active in Market Discussionsłonce you have stolen a bunch of money. All you need is to grind up credibility on a new character.
Coffe's Babe, these are not indictments against you, specifically. I am just being practical and pointing out what's possible and probable.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 15:43:00 -
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I know. That's why I said here and also in my previous offering that I can offer some small guarantees but it all goes down to placing a bit of trust. Usually the businesses that require zero said trust offer very small rewards. Of course, the risk's smaller.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.07 16:26:00 -
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My gut said 500m when I saw this post, so 500m it is. Might be Tuesday before I get it to you, working the next two days.
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Commander Godsmack
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Posted - 2011.08.07 16:59:00 -
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Coffe's Babe :
You have a 5 day 100 mill outstanding loan at 10% that is now 3 days past due. The collateral has been contracted back to you at 110 mill. If you dont buy back with the next 5 days your loan will be considered defaulted and i haz to gitz my monies back.
CG
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 17:06:09
Originally by: Commander Godsmack Coffe's Babe :
You have a 5 day 100 mill outstanding loan at 10% that is now 3 days past due. The collateral has been contracted back to you at 110 mill. If you dont buy back with the next 5 days your loan will be considered defaulted and i haz to gitz my monies back.
CG
Yeps, I know, but I did not get a chance to accept any contract/reply to any mail until today. I'll accept it when I get home today, thank you I'm not letting you keep my MWD! And truth be told I actually forgot about it till yesterday. My apologies. Was swamped till recently.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.07 17:10:00 -
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Any chance of a fact check on recent market activity and NAV growth? That would go a long way towards balancing out some of my concerns about the rapid expansion (there seem to be lots of very short term bonds at the moment with, effectively, expansions every month when the one month bond closes and a new, larger one opens up off its back).
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Any chance of a fact check on recent market activity and NAV growth?
Ok, you need to translate that to english. Remember I'm a PvP er by nature who just got a good idea and time/support to do some side business. I'm not a trader. Do you want to see some sort of proof of my recent growth (profit) ? If so how can I provide this without disclosing sensible information (char names/locations/ship types etc).
Also I get what you are saying with all the bonds and investment opportunities that have the goal of building trust. But with me it just happens that it's a good period because making this side cash does not require my full dedication to EvE.
And the only reason I'm doing it so early again is because I am risking the conflict to end with every day.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.07 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: RAW23 on 07/08/2011 17:37:06
Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: RAW23 Any chance of a fact check on recent market activity and NAV growth?
Ok, you need to translate that to english. Remember I'm a PvP er by nature who just got a good idea and time/support to do some side business. I'm not a trader. Do you want to see some sort of proof of my recent growth (profit) ? If so how can I provide this without disclosing sensible information (char names/locations/ship types etc).
You will need to disclose that info to at least one person and they can then confirm publicly that things are as you say without having to release that info to the public. So you need to find someone that you trust not to abuse the info and who potential investors will trust not to be in league with you to carry out a scam. Given the size of this bond pretty much any established/moderately wealthy MDer should be acceptable to both sides. Breaker77 and Varo Jan have both done audits in the past but may be busy. You could also try the slightly more risky option, on both sides, of getting a newer auditor involved, such as Tigerras.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 17:42:12 Thanks for the suggestions. I will consider doing so IF and only IF it will be absolutely necessary (not raising enough without said procedures). Not only me would suffer from possible leaks. The only thing is I got burnt in the past with trusting someone with some delicate information (even though that person didn't betray me for say, he was just dumb) - this is why I also understand the skepticism of a certain few.
Until then I'm hoping to get to my goal without investing more time and effort than I already planned to. I will already have to reserve 3-4 days for this
Looking forward to more investors. Will add the ones up until now when I get home in ~4hrs and confirm the receival of funds.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tigerras on 07/08/2011 19:26:52 Thanks for the vote of confidence there RAW23. However I will be unavailable for anything that extensive until Tuesday, which wouldn't work for this particular bond (and given the reaction to my last attempts I doubt it would help Coffe's Babe).
I do have a few more questions before I send isk, but will ask them in-game when I have a chance
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tigerras
I do have a few more questions before I send isk, but will ask them in-game when I have a chance
If the questions are significant please ask them here so that potential investors can pool their information.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.07 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Tigerras
I do have a few more questions before I send isk, but will ask them in-game when I have a chance
If the questions are significant please ask them here so that potential investors can pool their information.
My questions are merely based on a hunch, and should that hunch be wrong I don't want to damage the success of this bond because I have a hunch. Should it become more than a hunch I will of course post here. Because of the limitations of my eve time I may have to anyway.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 21:59:00 -
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The plot thickens.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:20:00 -
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I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman...
I'm in game now.
Also confirming the receival of a private investor's funds - 200m.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:27:00 -
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Well I am not going to be able to ask in game until Tuesday so ill post the questions here.
Are you intending to sell this character in the near future?
How often do you sell characters?
Why in june were you pushing so hard to sell or trade this character?
To those wondering I found the purchase and sale of an alt in her posting history, which since character transfers seem to be the death of any bond I wanted to be discreet about asking questions. Just a little bit ago I found all the attempts to sell or trade this character, so I figured the right thing to do is to ask publically.
I have removed my reservation until these questions are satisfactorally answered.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:30:00 -
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This guy is a scammer and the proof is right on the front page of threads as of my post.
I'll let you kiddies find the actual proof though, like a scavenger hunt. The winner getting those ultra valuable MD Rep Points.
Go!
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Lyris Nairn on 07/08/2011 22:30:56
Originally by: Tigerras Well I am not going to be able to ask in game until Tuesday so ill post the questions here.
Are you intending to sell this character in the near future?
How often do you sell characters?
Why in june were you pushing so hard to sell or trade this character?
To those wondering I found the purchase and sale of an alt in her posting history, which since character transfers seem to be the death of any bond I wanted to be discreet about asking questions. Just a little bit ago I found all the attempts to sell or trade this character, so I figured the right thing to do is to ask publically.
I have removed my reservation until these questions are satisfactorally answered.
Why would you even bother phrasing it in the form of a question? No response that Coffe's Babe can give would satisfy your concern.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn Why would you even bother phrasing it in the form of a question? No response that Coffe's Babe can give would satisfy your concern.
This is a misty approved troll.
Never stop kind sir.
p.s. would like reserve 0b _________________________________________________
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn Edited by: Lyris Nairn on 07/08/2011 22:30:56
Originally by: Tigerras Well I am not going to be able to ask in game until Tuesday so ill post the questions here.
Are you intending to sell this character in the near future?
How often do you sell characters?
Why in june were you pushing so hard to sell or trade this character?
To those wondering I found the purchase and sale of an alt in her posting history, which since character transfers seem to be the death of any bond I wanted to be discreet about asking questions. Just a little bit ago I found all the attempts to sell or trade this character, so I figured the right thing to do is to ask publically.
I have removed my reservation until these questions are satisfactorally answered.
Why would you even bother phrasing it in the form of a question? No response that Coffe's Babe can give would satisfy your concern.
Because I'm usually nice and like to give people a chance to explain themselves.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 22:55:33 Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 22:52:17
Originally by: Tigerras Well I am not going to be able to ask in game until Tuesday so ill post the questions here.
Are you intending to sell this character in the near future?
How often do you sell characters?
Why in june were you pushing so hard to sell or trade this character?
To those wondering I found the purchase and sale of an alt in her posting history, which since character transfers seem to be the death of any bond I wanted to be discreet about asking questions. Just a little bit ago I found all the attempts to sell or trade this character, so I figured the right thing to do is to ask publically.
I have removed my reservation until these questions are satisfactorally answered.
The answer is simple. I only got this character in June. I am the new owner of it. I had to use my first plex with this one 2 days ago and I had like 40 days of time when the char got on my hands.
I was an ex 2003-2009 player. My main char was Lana Lane for a good time but I also alternated. I only came back recently with the help of the guy I left my stuff with and a few plexes :)
Regarding the other posters, I can't say I did not expect this kind of trolling tho I'd appreciate if I could conduct my affairs in peace unless you are interested or got some serious issues to raise.
edit: And I forgot to answer one of your questions Tigerras: I don't plan to sell it. I love this char and what I plan to do with it too much. Plus I'm trying to build rep in other areas (non ISK related) which would just be a waste of time if i were to want to sell any time soon.
(and the proof that I got this char at that point would be the killboard - i started losing and killing a lot of ships out of the sudden - but I can show a print screen of my account page with key details left out if need be)
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
p.s. would like reserve 0b
I can take this as a sign of trust considering you pledge 20b to every thread that you consider a scam. If this was not your intention, then please show consistency!
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March rabbit
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Posted - 2011.08.07 22:58:00 -
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2 billlions is here. let me know when to send it.
good luck
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:07:00 -
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Could you please quote and label the parts where you have been trolled, and then in a separate post quote and label the parts where you have been asked legitimate questions?
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:09:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 23:09:16 Do I look like I'm making a living out of forum wars?
edit: updating first post with new investments. thank you.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
p.s. would like reserve 0b
I can take this as a sign of trust considering you pledge 20b to every thread that you consider a scam. If this was not your intention, then please show consistency!
No, i think you're a money grubbing, highsec dwelling, wannabe scrub like erry other nerd that makes a "give me isk thread here".
To investors, this isn't the cashout scam so your isk is relatively safe, anything over 10b or an IPO (like stealing honest) is a scam/cashout. _________________________________________________
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 23:16:31
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
To investors, this isn't the cashout scam so your isk is relatively safe, anything over 10b or an IPO (like stealing honest) is a scam/cashout.
Gee thanks for the vote of confidence... this makes me feel so much better now
edit: and the only reason what you say is true, that all IPO's and banks become scams at one point is that people get bored after a while. Boredom makes people do lots of stuff, god knows I did a few and not only in EvE.
What's needed for a stable bank is a collective of at least 10 people or something like that.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Elise DarkStar This guy is a scammer and the proof is right on the front page of threads as of my post.
I'll let you kiddies find the actual proof though, like a scavenger hunt. The winner getting those ultra valuable MD Rep Points.
Go!
Serene Python, Coffe's babe & Bogdan Prie are the same person. _________________________________________________
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 23:29:47 Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 23:25:38 Lol! I'm gonna link this to Serene. He'll love it. Also thanks for the compliment. He's a decent person from what I've seen.
edit: funny fact - you notice these things after a joint - all of my threads have 10 times the number of replies as views.
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Serene Python
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Elise DarkStar This guy is a scammer and the proof is right on the front page of threads as of my post.
I'll let you kiddies find the actual proof though, like a scavenger hunt. The winner getting those ultra valuable MD Rep Points.
Go!
Serene Python, Coffe's babe & Bogdan Prie are the same person.
If you weren't such an obvious troll that statement might have some validity to some people.
Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 23:25:38 Lol! I'm gonna link this to Serene. He'll love it. Also thanks for the compliment. He's a decent person from what I've seen.
Great, you complimented me. Now he's going to think we are the same person even more!
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:37:00 -
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So your saying that you & bogdan Prie are the same person?
Who are you're other alts? _________________________________________________
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 23:46:24 Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 07/08/2011 23:42:36
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge So your saying that you & bogdan Prie are the same person?
Who are you're other alts?
Wow... just...wow. Your deductive reasoning is.. mindboggling or better said non-existent. Please stop embarrassing yourself. And if you look even deeper you will find a post where I say I'm Lady Spank's alt. Go figure.
Btw: if you state something and I reply only to part of the statement (here it would be the fact that I only said that Serene would love it - but the true reason was that i actually knew Serene and chated/had dealings before - and not saying anything about Bogdon Prie) does not make the other part true; you want me to take out the rhetoric book?
edit: also another funny fact: almost everyone is debating the legitimacy of this offering however nobody even bothered to ask anything about the small collateral I mentioned I can provide; seems people like you are only after making trouble for others and not securing an investment for yourself. it's sad.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.07 23:58:00 -
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Free advice:
Quote: There is an account setting for eve-o forums, click settings, pick coffe's babe, now pick "default character"
This will prevent you posting a thread with your alt (bogdan prie) by mistake. The link above clearly states your name in the title, 2nd bond etc. which was promptly deleted, and now this thread pops up.
Sorry if i ruined your day Bogdan. how is ganking defenceless PVE mission runners in highsec going for you? _________________________________________________
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Free advice:
Quote: There is an account setting for eve-o forums, click settings, pick coffe's babe, now pick "default character"
This will prevent you posting a thread with your alt (bogdan prie) by mistake. The link above clearly states your name in the title, 2nd bond etc. which was promptly deleted, and now this thread pops up.
Sorry if i ruined your day Bogdan. how is ganking defenceless PVE mission runners in highsec going for you?
What? Seriously... what the ****ing god's name are you talking about. I didn't report any offtopic so far and I won't but cut this crap. Thank you.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.08 00:05:00 -
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read the title
I don't care what you think, this is for the helpless sap investors about to give your dumb ass isk. _________________________________________________
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.08 00:07:00 -
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You found the right trail, but you haven't taken the last step to the coup de grace.
I'm personally enjoying the squirming and I think we might get a full on internet spaceships investment forum meltdown out of this, so I'm gonna let things continue to play out.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 00:15:19 Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 00:14:17 Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 00:12:53 Like you could not post something with BP (it could be your alt), edit it, re edit to my title, wait for eve-s db to update, edit back. Even if i were him, which I am not (but I explained why I would hide my other chars in my original bond - but who bothers to read fully right?) this proves nothing despite the fact that I tried to hide my identity. For what, being ashamed of ganking missioneers?
The offering will continue as planned - still 2.5Bil to go till the 5Bil goal.
later edit: how do you people do it? living on the forums and real lives at the same time? it's beyond my capacities.
@elise (and its the last thing I'm gonna say on this subject) I know what you are talking about but I'm gonna wait for you guys to think you re-discovered America before I shame you with the proper evidence (and that is gonna be my true last post on this matter); because there is no such thing as bad publicity - we've kept this thread #1 for quite some time now;
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.08 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Elise DarkStar You found the right trail, but you haven't taken the last step to the coup de grace.
I'm personally enjoying the squirming and I think we might get a full on internet spaceships investment forum meltdown out of this, so I'm gonna let things continue to play out.
Teach me. If you have something better than the link i found then pop it. i need to get some work done & i cbf with spaceship detectives. _________________________________________________
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 00:47:00 -
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Wtf are you doing taking the food away from the troll like that? You should know better.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.08.08 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe
@elise (and its the last thing I'm gonna say on this subject) I know what you are talking about but I'm gonna wait for you guys to think you re-discovered America before I shame you with the proper evidence (and that is gonna be my true last post on this matter); because there is no such thing as bad publicity - we've kept this thread #1 for quite some time now;
seems you have quite the story to tell.
Please do elaborate. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.08 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Teach me. If you have something better than the link i found then pop it. i need to get some work done & i cbf with spaceship detectives.
Naw, I'll check back tomorrow morning us tz and if no intrepid MD young turk has discovered it by then, I'll disclose.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 01:40:00 -
[48]
And the plot thickens again.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.08 03:42:00 -
[49]
Please remove me from the investor list.
In response to Elise:
This is mere conjecture, but I have an idea what you are thinking.
This thread has characters Bodgen Prie and Oulley Spy two characters with very low post counts. This is the aforementioned thread with a similar title to this one.
These two characters also appear in this thread where they are the first two customers of Coffe's Babe. This thread also mentions her as a scammer.
Bogden also appears in this thread. Its very odd for characters with such small post counts to appear so often with one other character: Coffe's Babe.
That what you were thinking Elise?
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.08 03:51:00 -
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@tigerras if that really is "it"
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Commander Godsmack
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Posted - 2011.08.08 04:02:00 -
[51]
100 mill loan has been completed;
good luck with this one, remember dont feed any trolls
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.08 04:04:00 -
[52]
Oulley Spy admitting scams here
was expecting more drama tbh, not quite sure if this is the Elise link.
pretty lame if it is.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.08 05:35:00 -
[53]
Quote: Flux Technologies Inc [FTECK] from 2011.06.20 13:31 to 2011.06.20 15:45.
Character bought by "current owner"
Quote: Posted - 2011.06.17 17:37:00 - [13] - Quote Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 17/06/2011 17:45:51 ingame offer for 14b b/o awaiting isk 'claim he can post here cuse his character aint 72days old recived the 14B so chracter is sold, will send the character as soon as possible
>Implying Coffe's Babe is Brock Nelson
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 09:06:12 edit: never mid; I almost just got sucked back into it;
but small info: i never hid the wh thing and I never aimed for building MD rep since the WH posts were just pages back and can be found by any half - brained idiot. Seems some of you trolls even failed to do that. But i bet you felt more like Sherlock by trying to figure alt which one is my alt when the true issue was not that. Was funny to see you all waste your evening on such trivialities;
@ Tigerras I'm sorry this made you withdraw. I don't think I miss-treated anyone who was a serious person and raised serious issues/was interested in collaborating.
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
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Posted - 2011.08.08 11:13:00 -
[55]
2 bill here...let me know who to send. Will check eve mail when I get back from work.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.08 12:34:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Tigerras on 08/08/2011 12:36:03
Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 09:06:12 edit: never mid; I almost just got sucked back into it;
but small info: i never hid the wh thing and I never aimed for building MD rep since the WH posts were just pages back and can be found by any half - brained idiot. Seems some of you trolls even failed to do that. But i bet you felt more like Sherlock by trying to figure alt which one is my alt when the true issue was not that. Was funny to see you all waste your evening on such trivialities;
@ Tigerras I'm sorry this made you withdraw. I don't think I miss-treated anyone who was a serious person and raised serious issues/was interested in collaborating.
What I found was not a wasted evening as it took all of about fifteen minutes of work; most of which was checking to see what else I could find on the matter, and checking out other characters as well. I found the matter of your purchase of the character odd in the fact that I thought the buyer had to post in the forum thread, but looking through the rules that is not the case, and corp history and posting style and frequency supports your purchase in late june.
As per my withdrawal; it has a lot more to do with my looking into things and personal feelings about investing than it does with anything other than your responses to my questions and information given. Like I said, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but there are enough red flags in my mind about this for me to simply not risk my isk in it. I will be completely honest, I had mixed feelings about it before I decided to invest in this round, so perhaps its buyer's remorse (luckily before any buying happened).
That said, I do wish you luck, you seem to have two large investments that cover most of this bond.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 12:55:00 -
[57]
Updated first post and gonna start putting the ISK to work today. I only have to visit the workplace in 6 hrs or so.
@Tigerras - I was not referring to you when I said that people wasted their time on a wild goose chase but to the likes of the useless trolls on these forums; I respect your decision and don't judge. I only hope that maybe in the future we could do business again.
I'm of the philosophy that all the wrong things I do - I accept the consequences and also think that getting another character just to eliminate some standard doubt (when the actual _lie_ would be the clean and non-bad-rep char) is not the way to go.
U'll prolly see me in MD a while from now too
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.08 13:00:00 -
[58]
Whilst character purchases are not a real problem there are a number of legitimate issues that have not been addressed. Firstly, there has been no response to the scam accusations in the WH sales thread. Secondly, no explanation of the appearance of Flux in your employment history very shortly after you purchased this character. The alt stuff is also highly suspicious, although there is little you can say in response to this given the unsubstantiable nature of the claims, although you might want to suggest why someone would waste their time and energy trying to blacken your name with fake alt posting but do it in suh a way that it would not be apparent until people went digging.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.08 13:14:00 -
[59]
Nice to see you coming to the bittervet side Tigerras.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 14:00:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 14:04:09
Originally by: RAW23 Secondly, no explanation of the appearance of Flux in your employment history very shortly after you purchased this character.
You got me here. Is Flux something bad or...? And the massive corp jumps that stretch over a few days were due to me being a total idiot and getting myself keylogged. I did not mention this because it's totally irrelevant and would have just made investors worry for my current security.
But seriously, what's all the Flux hate? Who are they?
And regarding the Wormholes, the answer is on this page, just a bit up there.
edit: and with the last announced investor I can say that I almost reached my quota so any so-called scammer would have just bailed when the trail got hot and move on with his or her life; but I'll still be here for a lot while because now I hold some personal grudges and I'm not planning to leave until the necessary amount of face-rubbing has been performed to satisfy my hurt ego;
2nd edit: I don't mean Raw, Tigerras or any of the people here that have half a brain (just to avoid confusion)
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.08 14:11:00 -
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Flux is Brock Nelson's corp and Brock scammed MD investors for c. 30bil not long ago.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.08 14:14:00 -
[62]
When you said the response to the WH trade scam accusations was a little bit up the page did you mean this?
Originally by: Coffe's Babe
I'm of the philosophy that all the wrong things I do - I accept the consequences and also think that getting another character just to eliminate some standard doubt (when the actual _lie_ would be the clean and non-bad-rep char) is not the way to go.
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Chigy
Minmatar Shiznit Galaxy
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Posted - 2011.08.08 14:18:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 14:04:0
edit: and with the last announced investor I can say that I almost reached my quota so any so-called scammer would have just bailed when the trail got hot and move on with his or her life; but I'll still be here for a lot while because now I hold some personal grudges and I'm not planning to leave until the necessary amount of face-rubbing has been performed to satisfy my hurt ego;
I can't help but read this as 'Im so close why would I stop now?'
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 16:10:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 08/08/2011 16:12:44 Feel free to read it any way you like. For all intents and purposes I hold my ground. Maybe in my 3rd offering I'll fully collateralize it, depending on what I might make now. Why does everyone have to speculate only dark times?
@Raw - it's the first time I hear about that corp and it's doings. It didn't even stick to my memory when I looked over the corp jumps that happened when the char was out of my hands. Though I personally joined a corp for 3 hours and killed an orca once. If you scuffle through the my killmails you are bound to find it; i'm not willing to invest time in this Maybe it's them, maybe it's not - if the latter, it was not me.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.08 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: flakeys on 08/08/2011 16:37:15
Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Though I personally joined a corp for 3 hours and killed an orca once. If you scuffle through the my killmails you are bound to find it
Scared that after the digging going on someone's bound to find the nature of the beast?
You sure know how to ease the worried mind of investors ...
Here's a linky for that one , it was in flux tech even for the lasy guys/gals
either this is the 2nd time you did that in flux or flux seems to attract corpkillers with an appetite for orca :)
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:35:00 -
[66]
Originally by: flakeys
So could now well be that indeed you where in flux to kill said orca but that only makes things even worse don't you think?
No I don't. Because if you do then you're a carebear and we're playing the internet spaceships game, not the you got mugged in real life game. There's no prison in EvE. And nobody forces you to do business with someone that enjoys blowing orcas up. Grow up.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:50:00 -
[67]
The funny part is that this isn't the first time you've asked for and received ISK.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.08 18:55:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: flakeys
So could now well be that indeed you where in flux to kill said orca but that only makes things even worse don't you think?
No I don't. Because if you do then you're a carebear and we're playing the internet spaceships game, not the you got mugged in real life game. There's no prison in EvE. And nobody forces you to do business with someone that enjoys blowing orcas up. Grow up.
Given that you have admitted to scamming in wormhole trades and you have now been shown to be willing to abuse peoples' trust for your personal ends at their expense through killing your corpmates (ironically, this removes the problem of having been a member of Flux but replaces it with a new and bigger problem) you fall squarely under the rubric of 'scammer'. Hopefully anyone who has sent you isk will get it back but I think the chances of you ever raising more isk than you currently have is pretty much zero.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:03:00 -
[69]
wow
The ability of this subforum to muck around with bs in nauseating detail never ceases to amaze me.
1) He accidentally posted this same thread with an alt, and then proceeded to erase it. 2) On looking at this alt's posting history, we find evidence that he has used this alt (and another one as well, but that's superfluous to our needs here) to build a false reputation as a trustworthy WH seller.
That's it. That's all there is to it and that's all you need.
Anyone who invests their money after such clear evidence of blatant deception in terms of public trust is an idiot (more so even than the average person who gives spacemoney to strangers on a scam-riddled forum). This is of course ignoring the fact that he has continued to deny the connection despite the blatant obviousness, thereby making it even worse.
I'd also add that you have a nice list of obvious alt investors here that you can use to root out other potential existing or future scams, but the general intelligence level of this forum doesn't give me much hope that this would be pursued.
I do appreciate that the OP seems committed to going balls deep on this one, and I hope that his ludicrous spinning and internet rage continue to amuse.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:08:00 -
[70]
It's even more funny seeing how you're wrong on every point.
Fortunately there are still people that are interested in just doing business.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Elise DarkStar wow
The ability of this subforum to muck around with bs in nauseating detail never ceases to amaze me.
1) He accidentally posted this same thread with an alt, and then proceeded to erase it. 2) On looking at this alt's posting history, we find evidence that he has used this alt (and another one as well, but that's superfluous to our needs here) to build a false reputation as a trustworthy WH seller.
That's it. That's all there is to it and that's all you need.
Personally, I think that corpkilling is far more decisive than alt claims (extremely persuasive as those are) because it can be definitively established as being the case. Taking stuff about alts too absolutely runs a serious risk of making it easy to grief someone by pretending to be their alt(s).
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:18:00 -
[72]
I am a tigerras alt....crap wrong character.
But seriously, I'm a little worried. I get to join the bittervet clubvand found what elise was talking about...I feel a ritual involving a goat is in my near future...unless the md cult uses some other method.
And the alt dicussion is pointless...we are all chribba's alts anyway, living out a severe case of multiple personality disorder.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:19:00 -
[73]
Originally by: RAW23 Taking stuff about alts too absolutely runs a serious risk of making it easy to grief someone by pretending to be their alt(s).
A quick look at the timing involved should dismiss any suspicion of such maliciousness in the vast majority of cases. The idea that someone would pretend to alt-post in preparation to assassinate someone's character on the off chance they decide to put themselves out as publicly trustworthy at some point in the future is beyond farcical.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tigerras But seriously, I'm a little worried. I get to join the bittervet clubvand found what elise was talking about...I feel a ritual involving a goat is in my near future...unless the md cult uses some other method.
Unfortunately for you, you've already jumped the gun with this character with your completely ridiculous auditing attempt, thereby ruining it forever, regardless of the advances you personally make in understanding the perverted subculture that is the MD subforum.
I would suggest creating a clean character ASAP and building a reasonable background for it while continuing to gain valuable understanding while posting on your current character. Then when you have achieved an adequate balancing of character cooking and MD knowledge, I would switch to the new clean character and build up the requisite reputation for whatever your longterm scam goal is.
Best of luck.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:24:00 -
[75]
I wonder what you people are gonna say on my 3rd offering that's gonna be fully collateralized with the profits from the first 2. You got 3 weeks to try and dig up more dirt. Go!
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:25:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: flakeys
So could now well be that indeed you where in flux to kill said orca but that only makes things even worse don't you think?
No I don't. Because if you do then you're a carebear and we're playing the internet spaceships game, not the you got mugged in real life game. There's no prison in EvE. And nobody forces you to do business with someone that enjoys blowing orcas up. Grow up.
Uhm , if you need to join a corp to blow up an orca THEN you are a true carebear to start off with otherwise you'd had the balls to at least make an effort and take a risk for a kill.Hell mining in a hulk in 1.0 is risking more and less carebear then what you did there.
Now that aside purely speeking from an investors point since that is what this is about.You are here to ask isk from people you don't know , that killmail shows how you treat people who give you a chance and show faith in you and THAT is what should kill your whole deal.It is not about me saying you should be banned from eve for killing your own it is using common sence when investing and basically investing in any goon would seem more secure to me at this point.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Elise DarkStar
Originally by: RAW23 Taking stuff about alts too absolutely runs a serious risk of making it easy to grief someone by pretending to be their alt(s).
A quick look at the timing involved should dismiss any suspicion of such maliciousness in the vast majority of cases. The idea that someone would pretend to alt-post in preparation to assassinate someone's character on the off chance they decide to put themselves out as publicly trustworthy at some point in the future is beyond farcical.
That's true of the investment alt posts but those are the least damning. The alt thread is both more damning and more plausibly faked since it came after he had already run a public bond. The chances of it being faked seem very small but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that there are members of the eve community who would take great pleasure in doing something like that.
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe I wonder what you people are gonna say on my 3rd offering that's gonna be fully collateralized with the profits from the first 2. You got 3 weeks to try and dig up more dirt. Go!
If anyone wants to invest in a known corpgriefer with your next offering then i don't give a **** any more if they do or don't get their isk back.
And if you wanted to point and laugh as you describe above then make it a higher uncollateralised offer.Making it a pure collateralised one does not proove your point but ours.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 That's true of the investment alt posts but those are the least damning. The alt thread is both more damning and more plausibly faked since it came after he had already run a public bond. The chances of it being faked seem very small but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that there are members of the eve community who would take great pleasure in doing something like that.
Of course.
Fortunately in this case we need only make the assumption that our theoretical saboteur cannot also read minds and/or the future, and we have our case.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:34:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Elise DarkStar
Originally by: Tigerras But seriously, I'm a little worried. I get to join the bittervet clubvand found what elise was talking about...I feel a ritual involving a goat is in my near future...unless the md cult uses some other method.
Unfortunately for you, you've already jumped the gun with this character with your completely ridiculous auditing attempt, thereby ruining it forever, regardless of the advances you personally make in understanding the perverted subculture that is the MD subforum.
I would suggest creating a clean character ASAP and building a reasonable background for it while continuing to gain valuable understanding while posting on your current character. Then when you have achieved an adequate balancing of character cooking and MD knowledge, I would switch to the new clean character and build up the requisite reputation for whatever your longterm scam goal is.
Best of luck.
Or I could just kee the character I started playing eve with and add this as one more spect to her.
Scamming doesn't interest me. I'm far more interested in exploring aspects of this game than I am in exploiting the trust of others.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tigerras Or I could just kee the character I started playing eve with and add this as one more spect to her.
Scamming doesn't interest me. I'm far more interested in exploring aspects of this game than I am in exploiting the trust of others.
I'll stop by to say "I told you so" when your bond or whatever you try in about 2 months or so fails miserably. Alternatively, if you've decided to take my advice and are just covering, then you're welcome.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tigerras
Scamming doesn't interest me. I'm far more interested in exploring aspects of this game than I am in exploiting the trust of others.
Scamming is a great way to make money if you are new to the game. I can't count the number of Goonswarm newbies who, brand new to the game, make a couple of billion ISK off of recruitment scams their first few weeks playing. But there comes a point where it is literally less effort and far greater reward to simply invest ISK in the legitimate offerings that one can find. The problem with these two facts is that one has to choose between the two, and may not be aware of the latter until having already engaged in the former.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Elise DarkStar
Originally by: Tigerras Or I could just kee the character I started playing eve with and add this as one more spect to her.
Scamming doesn't interest me. I'm far more interested in exploring aspects of this game than I am in exploiting the trust of others.
I'll stop by to say "I told you so" when your bond or whatever you try in about 2 months or so fails miserably. Alternatively, if you've decided to take my advice and are just covering, then you're welcome.
K thx bai
Does anyone play this game not intending to scam everyone they meet? Eemed so much simpler when I started playing
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tigerras Seemed so much simpler when I started playing
Fixed typo and I agree... I remember the first Apoc BPO..
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
Gallente Intergalactic Better Business Corporation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:00:00 -
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2 Billion ISK sent. Looking forward for a good return in investment. Will continue business if thing goes well.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 2 Billion ISK sent. Looking forward for a good return in investment. Will continue business if thing goes well.
Thanks for the trust shown. I am currently at work and will leave once I finish what I got here to do. So a good few hours. I will confirm the funds asap upon first login. You won't regret it.
I have successfully raised my quota but if any investors are still interested, contact me and we can work something out. Ty.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.08 22:25:00 -
[87]
This thread delivers.
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
Gallente Intergalactic Better Business Corporation
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Posted - 2011.08.09 11:26:00 -
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Confirmation plz.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.09 12:39:00 -
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I thought I updated the first post. Sorry! :) I confirm the receival of 2bil from Michelle P1H9A8N1.
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.08.09 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 2 Billion ISK sent. Looking forward for a good return in investment. Will continue business if thing goes well.
Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 2 Billion ISK sent. Looking forward for a good return in investment. Will continue business if thing goes well.
Thanks for the trust shown. I am currently at work and will leave once I finish what I got here to do. So a good few hours. I will confirm the funds asap upon first login. You won't regret it.
I have successfully raised my quota but if any investors are still interested, contact me and we can work something out. Ty.
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 Confirmation plz.
Originally by: Coffe's Babe I thought I updated the first post. Sorry! :) I confirm the receival of 2bil from Michelle P1H9A8N1.
This modus operandi isn't at all familiar from the WH selling thread.
Although I liked the part where you offered to invest in someone else for a nice large amount. Especially given that it was already full, there wasn't likely to be any drop-outs and even if there was one, there was already someone else reserved before you.
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Vena Sablentea
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Posted - 2011.08.13 20:27:00 -
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Relevant information to all current and future investors
I would like to inform you that Coffe's Babe defaulted on an short term 200m isk loan. Details: On July 26, Coffe's Babe requested a loan of 200m isk for 14 days and offered 12% interest (on the in-game SCC Lounge channel). I responded, so she made a private contract to my name with included collateral item, for desired sum (-1 isk). She also expressed her wish to send her a mail few days before loan is due, since +she has so many things on her mind½. She was reminded about her loan coming due via mail on August 8. Later that day, a private contract was set up by me with 3 day expiry. She was reminded again about her late payment on August 11, via private chat. Contract was not accepted and has expired. I'm filling this under failed investment.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.13 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Vena Sablentea Relevant information to all current and future investors
I would like to inform you that Coffe's Babe defaulted on an short term 200m isk loan. Details: On July 26, Coffe's Babe requested a loan of 200m isk for 14 days and offered 12% interest (on the in-game SCC Lounge channel). I responded, so she made a private contract to my name with included collateral item, for desired sum (-1 isk). She also expressed her wish to send her a mail few days before loan is due, since +she has so many things on her mind½. She was reminded about her loan coming due via mail on August 8. Later that day, a private contract was set up by me with 3 day expiry. She was reminded again about her late payment on August 11, via private chat. Contract was not accepted and has expired. I'm filling this under failed investment.
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.08.13 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Tigerras
So what's your intention in MD?
I came to find out what happened to Kalrand's bonds, and I stayed to never stop posting.
NEVER STOP PO-
Oh... Carry on, then. --------------------
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.13 23:23:00 -
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The ship offered as collateral in its integral value is worth more than the investment + interest combined. I fail to see the problem. I am sorry for being able to pick the contract up in three whole days.
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Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2011.08.13 23:36:00 -
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Confirming that Coffee's Babe is my alt and that any possible defaults on private loans are due to a lack of time to play the game as I spend most of my time spamming rejoin to the SCC-Lounge channel that I have been banned from.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.13 23:53:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 13/08/2011 23:53:44 With so many alts I feel like I'm the Xenuria(C&P) of MD :/ I'm gonna play some world of tanks on the US server cuz I got banned for teamkilling on the EU one.
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.08.14 11:59:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Angsty Teenager Confirming that Coffee's Babe is my alt and that any possible defaults on private loans are due to a lack of time to play the game as I spend most of my time spamming rejoin to the SCC-Lounge channel that I have been banned from.
You really are an attention seeking butthurt little child aren't you? You're obviously not spamming rejoin hard enough since the ban had expired hours before this post of yours, not to mention the fact that your other alts weren't banned. Anyways, look forward to kicking your ass out again over the next few days.
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Vena Sablentea
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Posted - 2011.08.14 12:56:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Coffe's Babe The ship offered as collateral in its integral value is worth more than the investment + interest combined. I fail to see the problem. I am sorry for being able to pick the contract up in three whole days.
If you fail to see the problem, let me enlighten you. You took a loan and you failed to pay it back. Your potential investors might like to know that. Value of collateral could be discussed but thatĘs not the point. Regarding ōthree whole daysö duration of the contract, it was a two weeks loan silly, what did you expect?
Not to mention that contract expired 2 days after your loan was due, you were online quite a lot in that time frame, and you were reminded of it several times. If accepting a simple contract is too complicated for you, you should probably go back camping a gate or something.
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Epi34
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Posted - 2011.08.14 13:14:00 -
[99]
This thread delivers, thanks chaps
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.14 13:49:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Epi34 This thread delivers, thanks chaps
Yw. My threads always deliver.
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Epi34
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Posted - 2011.08.14 14:05:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: Epi34 This thread delivers, thanks chaps
Yw. My threads always deliver.
I suppose the obvious truth here is that this is not a high enough amount for the time invested in building credibility to be the cashout bond. So invest!
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Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2011.08.15 00:26:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Lauren Hellfury
Originally by: Angsty Teenager Confirming that Coffee's Babe is my alt and that any possible defaults on private loans are due to a lack of time to play the game as I spend most of my time spamming rejoin to the SCC-Lounge channel that I have been banned from.
You really are an attention seeking butthurt little child aren't you? You're obviously not spamming rejoin hard enough since the ban had expired hours before this post of yours, not to mention the fact that your other alts weren't banned. Anyways, look forward to kicking your ass out again over the next few days.
Ah shucks, I was taking a really long pooper and I'm not really competent to make a bot to spam rejoin. I have rejoined now though matey.
I am quite butthurt, join my corp and ill give you a medal for figuring it out.
-jurry peprige fanbioi.
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.15 08:40:00 -
[103]
Enjoyed reading this thread.
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
Gallente Intergalactic Better Business Corporation
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Posted - 2011.08.25 21:44:00 -
[104]
Additional 220mil have been given to Coffe's Babe with promise of 250mil return in few days.
Collateral includes:
cyclone medium anti-em screen reinforcer 2 medium anti-thermal screen reinforcer 2 medium core defence operational solidifier 2
Please confirm
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
Gallente Intergalactic Better Business Corporation
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Posted - 2011.08.29 20:07:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Coffe's Babe The money can be sent starting today 07 - AUG - 2011 and will be returned in exactly 3 weeks(21 days) - or 12 days if you go down that path from the moment I will confirm the receival of the funds both in game and here on the forums.
I will log in daily so this should not be an inconvenient. I will not take investments in 2 days from now and onwards. I have to know what to stockpile on or not. I'm not making a hundred trips especially that it takes a united effort to haul them ships.
Investors: March rabbit 2 billion (confirmed) Michelle P1H9A8N1 2 billion (confirmed) Anonymous 200m (confirmed)
So...yeah....21 days have passed. Any updates?
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.29 21:01:00 -
[106]
Bolded letters cost a lot of ISK to post in the forums, as a result, profits are non-existent.
PS You done got scammed.
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
Gallente Intergalactic Better Business Corporation
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Posted - 2011.08.29 21:49:00 -
[107]
Originally by: OllieNorth Bolded letters cost a lot of ISK to post in the forums, as a result, profits are non-existent.
PS You done got scammed.
Giving this guy the benefit of the doubt....first time getting into the investment gig....so lets hope im not done got scammed
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.08.30 03:39:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 scammed
what does your last name mean?
sorry for your loss. ___ iCandy Bonds
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March rabbit
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Posted - 2011.08.30 06:11:00 -
[109]
well. would be good to get answer from thread starter.
Scam without finish troll worth nothing....
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.30 09:42:00 -
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.08.30 12:40:00 -
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Ah, the "compensated late payment in the face of adversity" repgrind bonus maneuver. That'll show all the doubters.
Too bad you were already proven to be a scammer. Don't let that stop the spectacle though, you go girl.
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Torva Licentia
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Posted - 2011.08.30 15:19:00 -
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Generally speaking, if I'm looking for an opportunity to invest in something, I want the recipient of my hard-earned cash to be someone who has demonstrated reasonable character.
Flying around newbie systems griefing and then providing the name of yet another alt that the griefed individuals were invited to place a bounty on (presumably so the OP could make a few ISK podkilling their alt) does not meet the criteria of "reasonable character". Highsec griefers are a lame breed all on their own, but highsec griefers in the newbie systems? That's showing up to the preschool playground just to kick the kiddies around.
Sorry chums, if general behavior is any indication then this is not a wise investment.
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Umad Bro Questionmark
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:37:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Umad Bro Questionmark on 30/08/2011 23:40:55
Lol scam and lol @ the pic up there, but:
Originally by: Torva Licentia
Sorry chums, if general behavior is any indication then this is not a wise investment.
It's not. It's like saying the mafia owns businesses that yield no profit and that just because it conflicts with your definition of morality a possibly good investment ( I am not talking about the OP ) becomes a bad one.
You need to grow up and to find ways of becoming less ******ed. I'm sorry, it's just that people like you are the scum of any business. Not having a clue and thinking that they know anything just because they come up with the money.
Current state of the forums:
Making capsuleers slightly angry since 2003.
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Serene Python
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:44:00 -
[114]
Originally by: March rabbit Edited by: March rabbit on 30/08/2011 06:22:39 well. would be good to get answer from thread starter.
next part...
Quote: FORWARDED FROM THE MAIL SENT TO MICHELLE P1H.... (sry at work) From: Coffe's Babe Sent: 2011.08.30 06:20 To: March rabbit,
Hey. Like my previous bond, i've run into some RL and game related hicups and the payout will be delayed for a few days. I will explain on the forums in 2 days when my ban will expire (ban that I got for raging and posing a gm conversation) and of course i'll prvide a Direct Proportional compensation for each day late. Feel free to post this in the thread as I am unable to for the moment :)
Again, sorry for the delay but taking into account the situation I'm glad it's only a delay. Ty and talk soon.
ps: hello jerry peperoni (for the copy paste)
...to be continued
I don't mean to look at that in a pessimistic way but... If they're banned, why are they able to login and send mails? Shouldn't that eve account be locked? I don't know how bans work with CCP but logically it would make sense to completely lock an account rather than allow it to go onto evegate...
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Umad Bro Questionmark
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:01:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Umad Bro Questionmark on 31/08/2011 00:02:35
Originally by: Serene Python
Quote: FORWARDED FROM THE MAIL SENT TO MICHELLE P1H.... (sry at work) [...]ban that I got for raging and posing a gm conversation[...]
...to be continued
I don't mean to look at that in a pessimistic way but... If they're banned, why are they able to login and send mails? Shouldn't that eve account be locked? I don't know how bans work with CCP but logically it would make sense to completely lock an account rather than allow it to go onto evegate...
Is this how much attention you pay to trading too?
Current state of the forums:
Making capsuleers slightly angry since 2003.
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:05:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Serene Python I don't mean to look at that in a pessimistic way but... If they're banned, why are they able to login and send mails? Shouldn't that eve account be locked? I don't know how bans work with CCP but logically it would make sense to completely lock an account rather than allow it to go onto evegate...
Being forum banned is a completely different kettle of kipper than being banned from the game actual.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:12:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Umad Bro Questionmark weird font talk
So are you defending your new corpmate?
Quote: Coffe's Babe Security Status 2.2m1
modro [MODRO] Member for 7 days
ROMANIAN-LEGION [ATAK] Member for 18 days
Quote: Umad Bro Questionmark Security Status 0.0m1
modro [MODRO] Member for 3 days
ROMANIAN-LEGION [ATAK] Member for 18 days
its p funny, how you & Op use pretty fonts, lots of bold etc.
Is You Mad your cyno alt or something? ___ iCandy Bonds
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:20:00 -
[118]
These are indeed troubling allegations Candy. If the mail submitted is to be taken at face value then we will all get answers to the current underlying discombobulation within the next 48 hours.
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Umad Bro Questionmark
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:24:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Umad Bro Questionmark on 31/08/2011 00:24:54 The only thing that caught my attention about this thread was indeed the fact that I saw Coffe's name of the thread when I was refreshing around. I didn't even speak to him so far - we don't even have the same nationality in common. As I've stated before, but you people seem to have some issues regarding reading with care, what ticked me off was the dude that was like AHMAGADZ U K33L MISSION RUNNAR U R BAD INVESTMANT...
That's all.
edit: and if you were to scam someone, would you join the same corp with your alt 5 days later? pro reasoning skills, just sayin'
Current state of the forums:
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.31 00:39:00 -
[120]
Many questions need to be asked with regards to this debacle and how it unfolded. Time will no doubt yield answers and the unsavoury of the fallout.
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Serene Python
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Posted - 2011.08.31 01:06:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Singeabooty Raj
Originally by: Serene Python I don't mean to look at that in a pessimistic way but... If they're banned, why are they able to login and send mails? Shouldn't that eve account be locked? I don't know how bans work with CCP but logically it would make sense to completely lock an account rather than allow it to go onto evegate...
Being forum banned is a completely different kettle of kipper than being banned from the game actual.
Ahhh kinda figured CCP would just ban from both. Thank you kindly :)
Originally by: Umad Bro Questionmark
Is this how much attention you pay to trading too?
I am 100% open with my gains and loses with trading. My next update for my on going loan will be published in the next 24 hours, so you can try and figure out how well I do with trading from that. I am however, sorry that I do not have first hand experience with being banned in eve. That is among the experiences I will not get to go through in this game, maybe you can enlighten me on what I am missing perhaps?
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Umad Bro Questionmark
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Posted - 2011.08.31 02:49:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Umad Bro Questionmark on 31/08/2011 02:49:29
Originally by: Serene Python
I am 100% open with my gains and loses with trading. My next update for my on going loan will be published in the next 24 hours, so you can try and figure out how well I do with trading from that. I am however, sorry that I do not have first hand experience with being banned in eve. That is among the experiences I will not get to go through in this game, maybe you can enlighten me on what I am missing perhaps?
And class, this is how someone who will most surely do a cash-out on one of the next big bonds sounds like.
IMO people should stay out of threads like this and like Serene's (who I can't tell whether it's a man-chick or a chick-dude...).
Current state of the forums:
Making capsuleers slightly angry since 2003.
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Torva Licentia
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Posted - 2011.08.31 03:29:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Umad Bro Questionmark Lol scam and lol @ the pic up there, but:
Originally by: Torva Licentia
Sorry chums, if general behavior is any indication then this is not a wise investment.
It's not. It's like saying the mafia owns businesses that yield no profit and that just because it conflicts with your definition of morality a possibly good investment ( I am not talking about the OP ) becomes a bad one.
You need to grow up and to find ways of becoming less ******ed. I'm sorry, it's just that people like you are the scum of any business. Not having a clue and thinking that they know anything just because they come up with the money.
No, I'm saying that anyone who runs around newbie systems griefing people and then offering them a link to an alt so that they can put a bounty on them has obviously got some less-than-scrupulous ideas about how to get by in EVE. If you can't figure out how character translates to trust, I've got nothing for you.
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Umad Bro Questionmark
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Posted - 2011.08.31 05:43:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Umad Bro Questionmark on 31/08/2011 05:44:15
Originally by: Torva Licentia
No, I'm saying that anyone who runs around newbie systems griefing people and then offering them a link to an alt so that they can put a bounty on them has obviously got some less-than-scrupulous ideas about how to get by in EVE. If you can't figure out how character translates to trust, I've got nothing for you.
U mad? Cuz u sound pretty butthurt. Did you get griefed by any chance by said person or any other person when you first started? Cuz that's how you sound like..
Also I like the part where you linked proof that he/she did that. This sounds more and more like C&P.
Current state of the forums:
Making capsuleers slightly angry since 2003.
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Torva Licentia
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Posted - 2011.08.31 06:07:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Umad Bro Questionmark Edited by: Umad Bro Questionmark on 31/08/2011 05:44:15
Originally by: Torva Licentia
No, I'm saying that anyone who runs around newbie systems griefing people and then offering them a link to an alt so that they can put a bounty on them has obviously got some less-than-scrupulous ideas about how to get by in EVE. If you can't figure out how character translates to trust, I've got nothing for you.
U mad? Cuz u sound pretty butthurt. Did you get griefed by any chance by said person or any other person when you first started? Cuz that's how you sound like..
Also I like the part where you linked proof that he/she did that. This sounds more and more like C&P.
Nope, I didn't get griefed. And I didn't think to take a screenshot of their commentary in local when I was there with my merchant alt working through the tutorial missions. You can believe me or not. I don't care. It's just food for thought for anyone questioning whether or not the OP is an individual worth trusting.
Troll better, k? You're kinda boring.
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Umad Bro Questionmark
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Posted - 2011.08.31 06:38:00 -
[126]
That's exactly what someone making **** up would say. Why are you making **** up?
I once saw you scam people saying that you send double their money back, I even got a screenshot but I do not want to show it. But I swear it's real please trust me!
Current state of the forums:
Making capsuleers slightly angry since 2003.
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Torva Licentia
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Posted - 2011.08.31 06:54:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Umad Bro Questionmark That's exactly what someone making **** up would say. Why are you making **** up?
I once saw you scam people saying that you send double their money back, I even got a screenshot but I do not want to show it. But I swear it's real please trust me!
I've got nothing invested in picking people at random to try and discredit. Again...believe me or don't, I don't care.
When you're done acting like a socially inept 13 year old, try to phrase a cogent response. Or don't. I don't care about that, either. Actually, time's up. Your troll-fu is weak and I've lost interest. Carry on.
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
Gallente Intergalactic Better Business Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.06 01:15:00 -
[128]
Originally by: March rabbit Edited by: March rabbit on 30/08/2011 06:22:39 well. would be good to get answer from thread starter.
next part...
Quote: FORWARDED FROM THE MAIL SENT TO MICHELLE P1H.... (sry at work) From: Coffe's Babe Sent: 2011.08.30 06:20 To: March rabbit,
Hey. Like my previous bond, i've run into some RL and game related hicups and the payout will be delayed for a few days. I will explain on the forums in 2 days when my ban will expire (ban that I got for raging and posing a gm conversation) and of course i'll prvide a Direct Proportional compensation for each day late. Feel free to post this in the thread as I am unable to for the moment :)
Again, sorry for the delay but taking into account the situation I'm glad it's only a delay. Ty and talk soon.
ps: hello jerry peperoni (for the copy paste)
...to be continued
So it has been a few days since this last message. Whats the deal now? |
Katiana Swan
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Posted - 2011.09.06 02:43:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 So it has been a few days since this last message. Whats the deal now?
I have no idea how you chose to invest in this Michelle. I'm also fairly new to investing with my own small public offering however there looked to be warning bells at every turn with this one.
I understand it was your first investment but there was a large amount of fact finding done well before you transferred money by other people. The fact finding all but guaranteed that the OP had scammed or griefed in 3 different ways over the course of a couple of months.
Surely this has to show the mindset of the person and the likelihood of you ever getting your funds back. You have basically climbed over 3 fences regardless of the fact that they all had signs on them saying "WARNING: DEATH AHEAD".
It's amazing how much MD has changed since i was last here. Reminds me of the Fallout series, MD being just a wasteland now with tiny rays of light here and there but generally destruction and chaos governing the forum. My biggest annoyance is that I helped to create this wasteland by not handling my public business properly.
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.09.06 13:46:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Katiana Swan
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 So it has been a few days since this last message. Whats the deal now?
I have no idea how you chose to invest in this Michelle. I'm also fairly new to investing with my own small public offering however there looked to be warning bells at every turn with this one.
I understand it was your first investment but there was a large amount of fact finding done well before you transferred money by other people. The fact finding all but guaranteed that the OP had scammed or griefed in 3 different ways over the course of a couple of months.
Surely this has to show the mindset of the person and the likelihood of you ever getting your funds back. You have basically climbed over 3 fences regardless of the fact that they all had signs on them saying "WARNING: DEATH AHEAD".
It's amazing how much MD has changed since i was last here. Reminds me of the Fallout series, MD being just a wasteland now with tiny rays of light here and there but generally destruction and chaos governing the forum. My biggest annoyance is that I helped to create this wasteland by not handling my public business properly.
Lol. The fact that Coffe had been whoring it up in C&P prior to making this "offering" alone should have been enough to make any potential investor run for the hills never mind any other red flags.
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
Gallente Intergalactic Better Business Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 01:53:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Katiana Swan
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 So it has been a few days since this last message. Whats the deal now?
I have no idea how you chose to invest in this Michelle. I'm also fairly new to investing with my own small public offering however there looked to be warning bells at every turn with this one.
I understand it was your first investment but there was a large amount of fact finding done well before you transferred money by other people. The fact finding all but guaranteed that the OP had scammed or griefed in 3 different ways over the course of a couple of months.
Surely this has to show the mindset of the person and the likelihood of you ever getting your funds back. You have basically climbed over 3 fences regardless of the fact that they all had signs on them saying "WARNING: DEATH AHEAD".
It's amazing how much MD has changed since i was last here. Reminds me of the Fallout series, MD being just a wasteland now with tiny rays of light here and there but generally destruction and chaos governing the forum. My biggest annoyance is that I helped to create this wasteland by not handling my public business properly.
If this is a scam then i guess i have no one to blame. I saw the "red flags", but since i had already pledged, i followed through. The way this looks, i think i might have placed my trust in the wrong guy.
Oh well...lets see how this unfold.
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.09.07 06:46:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1
Originally by: Katiana Swan
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1 So it has been a few days since this last message. Whats the deal now?
I have no idea how you chose to invest in this Michelle. I'm also fairly new to investing with my own small public offering however there looked to be warning bells at every turn with this one.
I understand it was your first investment but there was a large amount of fact finding done well before you transferred money by other people. The fact finding all but guaranteed that the OP had scammed or griefed in 3 different ways over the course of a couple of months.
Surely this has to show the mindset of the person and the likelihood of you ever getting your funds back. You have basically climbed over 3 fences regardless of the fact that they all had signs on them saying "WARNING: DEATH AHEAD".
It's amazing how much MD has changed since i was last here. Reminds me of the Fallout series, MD being just a wasteland now with tiny rays of light here and there but generally destruction and chaos governing the forum. My biggest annoyance is that I helped to create this wasteland by not handling my public business properly.
If this is a scam then i guess i have no one to blame. I saw the "red flags", but since i had already pledged, i followed through. The way this looks, i think i might have placed my trust in the wrong guy.
Oh well...lets see how this unfold.
you DO have someone to blame though.....HIM! seriously how do people just take losing isk laying down now? might as well roll over and just let them take your isk.
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Michelle P1H9A8N1
Gallente Intergalactic Better Business Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.09 01:07:00 -
[133]
Originally by: egola
you DO have someone to blame though.....HIM! seriously how do people just take losing isk laying down now? might as well roll over and just let them take your isk.
Nothing much i can do anyway....
Anyway, generally in MD, do scammers come out of the closet and declare that theirs offering was a scam...or they just quietly disappear with the investors' isk?
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.09.09 14:47:00 -
[134]
Edited by: flakeys on 09/09/2011 14:50:25
Originally by: Michelle P1H9A8N1
Originally by: egola
you DO have someone to blame though.....HIM! seriously how do people just take losing isk laying down now? might as well roll over and just let them take your isk.
Nothing much i can do anyway....
Anyway, generally in MD, do scammers come out of the closet and declare that theirs offering was a scam...or they just quietly disappear with the investors' isk?
Usually they come out and reveal their awsome masterplan and rub it in a few times.Then they post a lot for a few weeks as to attract any possible attention to themselves and after this vanish out of the forums and usually out of the game.
There are offcourse exceptions like brock who keep hanging around.
Edit: o// i'm back ... ,thanks to navigator for not having any sense of humour
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