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MataHarry
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.07.30 13:20:00 -
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Hey all,
I have a problem running EVE online on my Sony vgn-sz1xp with Ge Force 7400 go graphic card series. When I run client it loads for some time, the screen blinks black a couple of time, then BSOD and reboot. Any clues anyone ? I updated latest directx and latest drivers from Sony (Nvidia sites states that I should get drivers updates directly from sony rather than from NVIDIA site). If try to install drivers from Nvidia website they simply dont work - i get message that compatible hardware is not found on machine.
Im running Windows XP with SP 3.
Please help!
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:05:00 -
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Methinks your video card just isn't powerful enough to enable you to go Nex shopping.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:09:00 -
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Sounds like a problem with you video card drivers, but just to be sure you could try and run the repair tool, which you can find in a sub-folder in the eve installation folder.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Pyth2 on 30/07/2011 14:13:04 Your GPU is 6 years old. In tech terms it's a fossil. In fact, on looking up the specs for your notebook, you have a 1.6 ghz dual core, with 1 gig of ram and a 100 gig HD.
And you're posting to ask why your 6 year old comp can't seem to run EvE due to hardware incompatibilities? You just. and I mean -just- barely come in over min hardware specs. And I strongly doubt those specs have been upgraded with CQ in mind. That is why you fail.
Trade in your dinosaur for a newer comp. Fred Flintstone has a better system then you.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2 And you're posting to ask why your 6 year old comp can't seem to run EvE due to hardware incompatibilities?
It supports vortex and pixel shaders 3.0, i think it should be able to load eve.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:15:00 -
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Load eve? Perhaps, it does come in right exactly on min specs, to load the game. No where near recomended specs.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: dexington on 30/07/2011 14:19:20
Originally by: Pyth2 Load eve? Perhaps, it does come in right exactly on min specs, to load the game. No where near recomended specs.
It seems to live up to the minimum specs, so the program should be able to load on the hardware platform.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2011 14:28:04
Originally by: MataHarry When I run client it loads for some time, the screen blinks black a couple of time, then BSOD and reboot. Any clues anyone ?
Most likely, because the game client should push your (rather weak and old) machine to the limit of what it can (theoretically) do even at low detail levels, your laptop gets so hot around the CPU/GPU that it ends up resetting. I have a feeling you NEVER actually took it apart and cleaned the dust and grime buildup inside, have you ? And even if you do that, or even if it was like brand-new, it might still reset if the environment temperature is not low enough to allow the puny built-in cooling to dissipate enough heat. If you have AC, try using your machine after you ramped the AC up to the minimum room temperature first. _
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:28:00 -
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More likely he's trying to load into a station with CQ turned on. That notebook doesn't even remotely approach the min reqs of CQ, and so of course, can't load it.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2 More likely he's trying to load into a station with CQ turned on. That notebook doesn't even remotely approach the min reqs of CQ, and so of course, can't load it.
As i understand the OP, the login screen don't load, which has nothing to do with the CQ.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2011 14:34:03
Originally by: dexington As i understand the OP, the login screen don't load, which has nothing to do with the CQ.
Hmm... then it might not be the temperature either. I just assumed he meant after logging in, but I probably shouldn't have assumed that. It should not be a DX problem either, since he has XP not Win7. But you never know, when in doubt, reinstall/upgrade DirectX too, just in case. Use this redist package from MS.
Hey, OP, has EVE ever worked in the past on that machine ? And it just stopped loading on some patch ? Or this is the first time you're trying EVE on it ? And does this happen after you login, or before the login screen shows up ? _
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Potrondal Morrison
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:38:00 -
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It may not be the GPU drivers, but the sound card drivers. Find out what sound card you have, wether it be onboard or a sperate card, and update the drivers for that and see if that makes any difference.
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:48:00 -
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It's a notebook so assuredly onboard sound. If you can even make the login screen, hit esc and disable loading station enviroments, or clarify a bit exactly when in the login process things are going bad for you.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:48:00 -
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Here's some useful information:
Your GPU supports shader 3.0. So technically you can run CQ, albeit slowly.
As long as you're willing to deal with your lack of performance Eve should run. I ran Eve on my Aspire One netbook for a while before CQ invalidated it because of shader 3.0.
As for the BSOD, this sounds like a driver issue. Update your system's drivers for everything
As with all older hardware, the support lifecycle is getting smaller and smaller so it may not be possible to update your video beyond what the manf. has provided. In these cases some really smart people out there sometimes know how to make non-manf. specific drivers work. I would definitely look around if you have no other options. There might be a driver floating around out there for you.
Also, don't forget to look for updates for DirectX. I setup a machine before CQ that already had DirectX 9c installed but apparently was still missing something. Downloaded the latest from MS and it worked.
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MataHarry
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2 Edited by: Pyth2 on 30/07/2011 14:13:04 Your GPU is 6 years old. In tech terms it's a fossil. In fact, on looking up the specs for your notebook, you have a 1.6 ghz dual core, with 1 gig of ram and a 100 gig HD.
And you're posting to ask why your 6 year old comp can't seem to run EvE due to hardware incompatibilities? You just. and I mean -just- barely come in over min hardware specs. And I strongly doubt those specs have been upgraded with CQ in mind. That is why you fail.
Trade in your dinosaur for a newer comp. Fred Flintstone has a better system then you.
Ye, you are correct its a 6 year old machine. Actually I dont mean to play on it, I just wanted to be able to load client and change skills that is all.
Akita - its a brand new machine, somehow I have this relic from old times, but I used to own exactly the same machine back then and eve worked fine. I used to run old graphics client on it, before they upgraded it to premium. And premium would still work, just painfully slow so you cant really play on it, but it should run.
So my take is that the client should load at least, but its giving me BSOD. Im gonna try upgrading directx right now again, see what happens.
Any other clues apart from that ? It just so happens that its the only machine I could change my skills from at the moment and thats why i really need it up and running ... |
HopeAndFear
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Posted - 2011.07.30 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: MataHarry .....(Nvidia sites states that I should get drivers updates directly from sony rather than from NVIDIA site). If try to install drivers from Nvidia website they simply dont work - i get message that compatible hardware is not found on machine.....
There are ways around this. The driver installer is looking at the hardware device ID's in your system and comparing them against a list of supported chips for the particular driver you are trying to install. What you need to do is get the ID for your particular graphics chip and add the ID to the INF file that the driver installer is using.
Be warned though, as this is trickery and will only work right if you are using a proper driver. One of my nvidia systems (geforce 6800) needs quite older drivers in order to work right, I suspect your 7 series chip would also need a properly chosen driver.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: MataHarry So my take is that the client should load at least, but its giving me BSOD. Im gonna try upgrading directx right now again, see what happens.
When you get a BSOD it tells you some information about why windows crashed, maybe it tells you that a nvidia dll file was the the course of the crach, which could mean directx or your video card drivers are the problems. If it's some other driver, that may give you an indication of what the course of the problems is.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 15:04:00 -
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This is the newest nvidia driver for you card >> Linkage
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:04:00 -
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Black screen of death or blue screen of death?
Black -> Possibly overheating, laptops do that a ton on graphically intensive crap Blue -> Driver issue. -- Abriael
Contributing Writer - DualShockers.com |
dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Abriael VonRosen Black -> Possibly overheating, laptops do that a ton on graphically intensive crap
Not to load the log in screen.
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Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Abriael VonRosen Black -> Possibly overheating, laptops do that a ton on graphically intensive crap
Not to load the log in screen.
It depends, the login screen is still 3D with an overlay. I tried loading eve on my old crappy Pavilion once, and it shoot temps over 70. Never tried anymore after that. -- Abriael
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Bootleg Jack
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:13:00 -
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The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bootleg Jack The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
RAM: XP (SP2) û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB
Because we read the system requirements, before posting...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bootleg Jack The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
With CQ off and with low graphic detail in space and caching turned off, 1 GB of RAM should be quite enough for "EVE in space" on an XP machine without having to churn the swap file. _
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:53:00 -
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Depending very much on what else he happens to be running. With Chrome open atm I'm using 115ish, utorrent another 5, windows xp is chewing up maybe 50.
God knows what kind of ram the sony software suite that thing almost definitly holds is chewing up. EvE itself tends to hovor around 800ish just sitting in space, doesn't leave a lot of room for anything else. His page file is almost certainly being heavily used.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Pyth2 Depending very much on what else he happens to be running. With Chrome open atm I'm using 115ish, utorrent another 5, windows xp is chewing up maybe 50.
God knows what kind of ram the sony software suite that thing almost definitly holds is chewing up. EvE itself tends to hovor around 800ish just sitting in space, doesn't leave a lot of room for anything else. His page file is almost certainly being heavily used.
oh please stop, if you really think this is the problem, then suggest that the OP deal with it accordingly. Trying to prove that you may be right is not helping anyone.
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Yoa Loother
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Posted - 2011.07.30 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bootleg Jack The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
1 GB of RAM should be quite enough.
Should be but it isnŠt. The XP system needs some actual memory too.
OPs EVE gaming days are over, simple as that. _ .. darn |
dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.07.30 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Yoa Loother 1 GB of RAM should be quite enough.
Should be but it isnŠt. The XP system needs some actual memory too.
OPs EVE gaming days are over, simple as that.
wrong, eve will load on a system with 1gb ram.
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That Handsome Frog
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Posted - 2011.07.30 17:14:00 -
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This is what I hear from this thread
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.07.30 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 30/07/2011 18:12:11
Originally by: Yoa Loother
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bootleg Jack The guy has 1 gig of ram, why are you people even debating this, he is playing off of hard disk swap memory.
With CQ off and with low graphic detail in space and caching turned off, 1 GB of RAM should be quite enough for "EVE in space" on an XP machine without having to churn the swap file.
Should be but it isnŠt. The XP system needs some actual memory too. OPs EVE gaming days are over, simple as that.
With all effects still on, but everything else on lowest, CQ off and resource cache disabled, on first undock in a not particularly crowded area, the total EVE memory footprint is only about 600 MB of RAM. With everything on highest and enabled (except CQ still disabled), that jumps up to about 820 MB. _
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