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gabrial13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:46:00 -
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Xolve wrote:gabrial13 wrote:Xolve wrote:gabrial13 wrote:...it would likely provide extra sweet killmails And this is why nobody gives a **** about Noir. anymore. Troll much? That Sir, was not a troll, but an admission of truth. Your alliance is about as relevant as 'Maru Kage' was right up until they reneged on that deal. In the mean time you'rea bunch of washed up scrubs that take EVE too seriously and havn't been taken seriously by anyone else for well over 3 years.
Come on man, you should be able to better than that , a rather disappointing performance for a goon |
captain foivos
State War Academy Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:59:00 -
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What has Noir. done in the two years that has received notice or mention? |
gabrial13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 05:03:00 -
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captain foivos wrote:What has Noir. done in the two years that has received notice or mention?
Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count? So does this mean only large alliances are allowed to speak on the forum just so we all understand the rules ? |
Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1153
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Posted - 2012.10.08 05:56:00 -
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gabrial13 wrote:Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count?
No, it does not.
Back to your corner plebe. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
gabrial13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 06:18:00 -
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Xolve wrote:gabrial13 wrote:Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count? No, it does not. Back to your corner plebe. plebe? okay lol Does any one want to start talking about the subject of the thread again or is that just crazy talk |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
664
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Posted - 2012.10.08 07:29:00 -
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gabrial13 wrote:captain foivos wrote:What has Noir. done in the two years that has received notice or mention? Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count? So does this mean only large alliances are allowed to speak on the forum just so we all understand the rules ?
haha you were actually serious
dear god
Noir. is dead and irrelevant. EveO is a circus train that is for bafflingly unclear reasons also carrying tanks of chlorine gas,-ácrashing and exploding in the middle of a small midwestern town. -áCalling it a mere train wreck gives neither the entertainment nor the horror it offers its proper due. |
gabrial13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 07:39:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:gabrial13 wrote:captain foivos wrote:What has Noir. done in the two years that has received notice or mention? Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count? So does this mean only large alliances are allowed to speak on the forum just so we all understand the rules ? haha you were actually serious dear god Noir. is dead and irrelevant.
I must be really annoying you guys if it takes 4 goons to try and insult me and fail badly haha As i said earlier, try harder |
Pipa Porto
1163
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Posted - 2012.10.08 07:58:00 -
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gabrial13 wrote:captain foivos wrote:What has Noir. done in the two years that has received notice or mention? Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count? So does this mean only large alliances are allowed to speak on the forum just so we all understand the rules ?
Where did anyone say you couldn't post?
All anyone's said is that NoirDOT is irrelevant. In part because you seem to think that killmails or their "sweetness" matter. The rest is because NoirDOT hasn't done anything of note in recent memory. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
gabrial13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 08:59:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:gabrial13 wrote:captain foivos wrote:What has Noir. done in the two years that has received notice or mention? Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count? So does this mean only large alliances are allowed to speak on the forum just so we all understand the rules ? Where did anyone say you couldn't post? All anyone's said is that NoirDOT is irrelevant. In part because you seem to think that killmails or their "sweetness" matter. The rest is because NoirDOT hasn't done anything of note in recent memory.
So Noir. hasnt been in the news lately , whats your point? I like whoring on big isk killmails , I admit it , shoot me |
Ra Jackson
CRIMINALS IN ACTION
40
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Posted - 2012.10.08 09:37:00 -
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Because people in a 9k alliance are relevant :) |
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Pipa Porto
1165
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Posted - 2012.10.08 10:38:00 -
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gabrial13 wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:gabrial13 wrote:captain foivos wrote:What has Noir. done in the two years that has received notice or mention? Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count? So does this mean only large alliances are allowed to speak on the forum just so we all understand the rules ? Where did anyone say you couldn't post? All anyone's said is that NoirDOT is irrelevant. In part because you seem to think that killmails or their "sweetness" matter. The rest is because NoirDOT hasn't done anything of note in recent memory. So Noir. hasnt been in the news lately , whats your point? I like whoring on big isk killmails , I admit it , shoot me
Exactly what I said. That nobody has told you that you're not allowed to post.
If you feel that being irrelevant to the landscape of EVE strips you of your right to post, that's your hangup and you can feel free to restrict yourself based on that. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
gabrial13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:11:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:gabrial13 wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:gabrial13 wrote:captain foivos wrote:What has Noir. done in the two years that has received notice or mention? Logged in ,undocked and cloaked for a long time, does that count? So does this mean only large alliances are allowed to speak on the forum just so we all understand the rules ? Where did anyone say you couldn't post? All anyone's said is that NoirDOT is irrelevant. In part because you seem to think that killmails or their "sweetness" matter. The rest is because NoirDOT hasn't done anything of note in recent memory. So Noir. hasnt been in the news lately , whats your point? I like whoring on big isk killmails , I admit it , shoot me Exactly what I said. That nobody has told you that you're not allowed to post. If you feel that being irrelevant to the landscape of EVE strips you of your right to post, that's your hangup and you can feel free to restrict yourself based on that.
So in your opinion Noir. is not relevant in world of eve, why would bring this oppinion to a conversation about Freighter losses. So I will ask again what was your original point to this statment if not to let me know my opinion does not count because you don't like my alliance. |
Slap Chop
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:14:00 -
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. |
Pipa Porto
1169
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:57:00 -
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gabrial13 wrote:So in your opinion Noir. is not relevant in the world of eve, then why would bring this oppinion to a conversation about Freighter losses. So I will ask again what was your original point to this statment if not to let me know my opinion does not count because you don't like my alliance.
Where did I ever say that I thought NoirDOT was not relevant to the world of EVE? In what way did I bring it to the conversation? Where did I ever say that your opinion did not count?
I think you have me confused for someone else.
I simply posted to help clarify what other posters were saying, as you were clearly having trouble restraining yourself from flights of fancy in interpreting their posts. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1153
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Posted - 2012.10.08 20:06:00 -
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gabrial13 wrote:So Noir. hasnt been in the news lately , whats your point?
Surely by 'lately' you mean 'years', and that friend is our point.
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gabrial13
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
4
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Posted - 2012.10.08 20:34:00 -
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Xolve wrote:gabrial13 wrote:So Noir. hasnt been in the news lately , whats your point? Surely by 'lately' you mean 'years', and that friend is our point.
okay for the 3rd time and i say this to all goonswarm members in this thread so there is no confusion Noir. has not been in the news for years , But what is your point relating to this thread, you have told me that is not about me being in Noir. so I should not be allowed to post my thoughts on the subject. Okay , then please for the love of god tell me what your point is.
And on a more joyful note, i love my alliance , we get T-shirts. |
Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1153
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Posted - 2012.10.09 08:41:00 -
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gabrial13 wrote:okay for the 3rd time and i say this to all goonswarm members in this thread so there is no confusion Noir. has not been in the news for years , But what is your point relating to this thread...
Since this thread is directly discussing GoonSwarm, and the members of GoonSwarm's activities I would venture to say that anyone in GoonSwarm can **** this up as they please, preferrably free of the boring and uninformed opinions of 'space mercenary' pubbies and their redundant questions about their misconstrued heteronormative killboard **** measuring contests.
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Pipa Porto
1179
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Posted - 2012.10.09 09:00:00 -
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Xolve wrote:misconstrued heteronormative killboard **** measuring contests.
Wouldn't those be andronormative or something like that? I mean, unless there's some **** to **** length conversion chart. I mean, heteronormative would imply there's some male-female interaction going on, and from what I understand that's not common in these contests. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
45
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Posted - 2012.10.09 12:58:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:You sure learned a lot for the one day you been playing EVE!! Or, you are posting on a one day alt, that is my guess. Now my question is, why are you coward and have a yellow streak 5 miles long down your back? If you are going to post about a corp, grow a pair and post on your main.
posting in pointless thread with main |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
15
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Posted - 2012.10.09 13:51:00 -
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Neat just saw one in Niarja sadly missed the bump But I can say that at no point was there an abuse of mechanics aside from bumping Which is needed to get out of range of the gate guns. Total time was under 30 seconds involved people, well go look at the kill mail But yeah other than the bumping I have no issue. The bumping of 216 km does seem a bit absurd. And none of the oh just web it would have helped they had a scout on one side of the gate and the gank squad off grid in the other. There really is no defense due to time and the bumper. Concord was killing a good 10 secs after the freighter popped. |
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Pipa Porto
1179
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:14:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:There really is no defense due to time and the bumper.
Have friends to Suicide Gank the bumper. Don't fly with a load worth ganking for. Have a scout so you can split your load and go through those few systems a couple times with loads not worth ganking for.
Bam. Two (and a half) defenses. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
15
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:35:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:There really is no defense due to time and the bumper. Have friends to Suicide Gank the bumper. Don't fly with a load worth ganking for. Have a scout so you can split your load and go through those few systems a couple times with loads not worth ganking for. Bam. Two (and a half) defenses. Suicide ganking to prevent suicide ganking is just nano gangs all over again There should be no need to beat a playstyle by only using the same. Also a gankable load is 1 bil isk.
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Pipa Porto
1179
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:41:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:There really is no defense due to time and the bumper. Have friends to Suicide Gank the bumper. Don't fly with a load worth ganking for. Have a scout so you can split your load and go through those few systems a couple times with loads not worth ganking for. Bam. Two (and a half) defenses. Suicide ganking to prevent suicide ganking is just nano gangs all over again There should be no need to beat a playstyle by only using the same. Also a gankable load is 1 bil isk.
You can also bring friends in high DPS or Alpha ships to destroy the gankers while they're GCC but before they can kill the Hulk. There's a third. You can also bring friends in ECM ships. There's a fourth.
Those two and a half were simply what I came up with immediately.
So? There's a gankable limit, just as there always has been, and you're free to adapt to it or not as you choose. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
15
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:14:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:
You can also bring friends in high DPS or Alpha ships to destroy the gankers while they're GCC but before they can kill the Hulk. There's a third. You can also bring friends in ECM ships. There's a fourth.
Those two and a half were simply what I came up with immediately.
So? There's a gankable limit, just as there always has been, and you're free to adapt to it or not as you choose.
You missed the part where I said it was done in under 30 secs. What is the warp time for 200km on your escorts? followed by locking and ecm? And if everyone does somehow manage they still bring more ships. These ganks are difficult borderline impossible to prevent given their time span. If it were a minute, then yes your points would be true and I would concede victory. The only one of worth is the one on value, make yourself to cheap to gank by hauling under 1 bil. though if that be the case, I say freighters should receive a speed boost in warp to make up for such longer trips. Or rig slots. Rig slots would be excellent in these cases. Also why a hulk? I thought those were made of Captain America's shield adamantium for how ungankable they are post patch. |
Pipa Porto
1180
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:54:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:You missed the part where I said it was done in under 30 secs. What is the warp time for 200km on your escorts?
A Tornado can MWD faster than the Freighter can be bumped. So can a smartly fitted ECM boat.
Quote:followed by locking and ecm? And if everyone does somehow manage they still bring more ships.
Lock on approach. You just have to be within ~60km to ECM. Closer with DPS ships, but that's no problem. Only if they want to lose money (plus, eventually they'll run out of non-GCC toons). Meanwhile, you can keep doing it all day since your ships are safe. Blackbirds are cheap.
Quote:These ganks are difficult borderline impossible to prevent given their time span. If it were a minute, then yes your points would be true and I would concede victory. The only one of worth is the one on value, make yourself to cheap to gank by hauling under 1 bil. though if that be the case, I say freighters should receive a speed boost in warp to make up for such longer trips. Or rig slots. Rig slots would be excellent in these cases.
1b has been around where Freighters have been safe for years. The only exception was before Bat Country figured out the bump gank to counter the Crucible Insurance Nerf (before Blah, Blah, Tornado, the Tornado costs more to lose than the Pre-Crucible Gank Mael).
Quote:Also why a hulk? I thought those were made of Captain America's shield adamantium for how ungankable they are post patch.
Where did I mention the Hulk here? By the way, the buff to the Hulk isn't particularly problematic. It's the Mackinaw whose unprofitable to gank even when the miner can't be bothered to fit a tank. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Horatioh Kane
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.10.10 09:51:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote: Where did I mention the Hulk here? .
Pipa Porto wrote: You can also bring friends in high DPS or Alpha ships to destroy the gankers while they're GCC but before they can kill the Hulk.
I'm not taking sides, but you explicitly mentioned the Hulk here. |
Pipa Porto
1182
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Posted - 2012.10.10 14:35:00 -
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Horatioh Kane wrote: I'm not taking sides, but you explicitly mentioned the Hulk here.
Whoopes.
I meant to say Freighter. I blame months of having this exact conversation with Miners.
Quote:EDIT: Riot Girl wrote: If you lose a ship because it's impractical to ensure it's protected, you deserve that loss.
Also we could really just empty quote this into the ground.
I would make a slight alteration.
Edited Riot Girl wrote:If you lose a ship because you decide that it's impractical to ensure it's protected, you deserve that loss. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
CraftyCroc
Gunpoint Diplomacy
51
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Posted - 2012.11.09 14:45:00 -
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Granted freighters should limit the value of their cargo - the issue in my view is a social one. A lot of children play this game and as such take pleasure from upsetting others. I avoid high sec ganking as I like to think of myself as a decent person. Come into low/null however..... |
CraftyCroc
Gunpoint Diplomacy
51
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Posted - 2012.11.09 18:20:00 -
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Beachura wrote:Erm.. I have never been killed in my charon, I don't understand why individual pilots cannot follow some simple rules that kept me alive carrying expensive cargo:
- Never autopilot (yes it's boring, but I'd rather be bored than dead) warping gate to gate at your computer very much decreases your chances of being ganked. (personally I used to autopilot with an empty cargo, due to the fact it's not extremely profitable to destroy an empty freighter but some individuals don't even do that)
- If you suspect you have been scanned, dock or change route to avoid any 0.5 and 0.6 systems
- There are intelligence channels for certain areas of high security, especially in uedama and niarja, join them
I'm sure many others in this thread will have additions to this list including scouts, but I find just those three rules keeps most pilots alive for months at a time. I have never lost a freighter.
1 billion isk to the guy who ganks his freighter
Regards
Cc |
Tornard
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.18 08:50:00 -
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Goons start to ganking JF When CCP fix this ****? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15153758 |
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