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Hina Yamamoto
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:11:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hina Yamamoto wrote:Obvious Troll is obvious.
Hi Hina, i see a lot post agains my topic, but also some who agree with me. In my opinion skill training curve betwen EvE and other Mmos is worse in world, ok i know i cant play at once while using multiple characters in other mmo, but character learning curve show simpe facts, in other games learning - fun curve and ability to train other characters are better than in EvE. Btw i dont trolling here i play since 2007 i have no reason to troll players or CCP, well somtime im drunked and i worote horrible posts, like one time per year, but while i wrote post i try always to avoid troling.
Character learning curve? Skill training curve? Learning - fun curve?
In EVE you don't need to be able to train multiple characters. You can be tank or healer at the same time, with the same character. Just train the basic skills, take the right ship for the job and you're ready.
So it looks like you are just drunk. I don't like drunk people.
Maybe these sites will help you. The Theme Parker's Guide to EVE Online: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
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feihcsiM
Last Exit For The Lost Dark Therapy
47
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:17:00 -
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So you're saying
1 character training whether logged in or not (EVE) < (WOW) Grinding all 3 characters, one at a time, only when playing
Ok....
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
156
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:23:00 -
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1/10 |
Cede Forster
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
80
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:46:00 -
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you should try progressquest sometimes, it might be your dream game |
March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion
251
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Posted - 2012.09.18 10:58:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets.
last time i've checked you only needed "gear" for like 10 millions (DPS fitted catalyst) + skills for like 1-2 weeks to kill hulks in empire. And every hulk "grinded" you some amount of t2 modules and even T2 salvage.
Another example: market. One guy (one of authors of New Eden Weekly) made his first hundreds of millions by trade around Jita in like first months of play. He found some T2 salvaged material which was selling 3 jumps away from Jita like 40-50% cheaper. Pure luck without any skills/grind/etc and some fast money.
Personally i made my first millions just killed some Serpentis rats in asteroid belt. Found some good tags which was selling for CRAZY 400000 ISK!!! That was like 2x of my total wealth that moment.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
49
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:14:00 -
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65 posts? 6/10 GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9519
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:18:00 -
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Oh, ffsGǪ how can people respond to stoicfaux with anything other than GǣGǥ?! Is there some widespread outbreak of sarcasm-o-meter failure? ARGH!
And OP, learn to read. No-one agrees with you for the simple reason that your base premise is completely incorrect. EVE does in no way differ from other MMOs in regards to how many characters you can train at once. In fact, the only game I can think of off the top of my head that does things differently is Dust 514GǪ
GǪalso, I love how -åin before meGÇ¥ has apparently become a thing now. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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baltec1
Bat Country
2142
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪalso, I love how -åin before meGÇ¥ has apparently become a thing now.
It beats the "you must be a Tippia alt" that I always seem to get |
DeBingJos
Weirdo Asylum Shadow Rock Alliance
366
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:40:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪalso, I love how -åin before meGÇ¥ has apparently become a thing now. It beats the "you must be a Tippia alt" that I always seem to get
That's better than 'Who the **** are you? GTFO!' Ungi ma+¦urinn ++ekkir reglurnar, en gamli ma+¦urinn ++ekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9519
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:41:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪalso, I love how -åin before meGÇ¥ has apparently become a thing now. It beats the "you must be a Tippia alt" that I always seem to get On the other hand, that would make you a Mittens-dev alt as well, since that's what I keep being accused ofGǪ beingGǪ ehm. Anyway.
GǪand that's got to count for something, right?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4626
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:11:00 -
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Itis Zhellin wrote:Let's face it, if you could skill up on all of your 3 characters/account then none would buy another account and that's bad for business. EVE have around 300K active accounts only because players run 2 or more accounts, so basically the real number of (unique) players could be around 50k. And no mmo would survive with only 50K paid accounts, not even the f2p ones.
But how about a caped skill on alts? Let's say a cap around 5M SP, that would be enough to train a Jita trader, a hauler or whatever you would need to help out your main.
Oh hey thanks, I have 2 alts with over 25MP SP each, so I'd be delighted to lose over 55M SP just so that whatever problem you thinik this fixes would be fixed.
(Heh. No) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:38:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' Oh, don't be dense. He's referring to the fact that you hit max level really quickly in games like WoW, thus it's fairly trivial to have multiple max skill toons on one account, which lets the gamer pick their playstyle du jour: DPS one day, Tank the next, and Healer for when you really don't want to spend much time in the dungeon finder queue. The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets. WHAT F'ING LEVEL CAP!? EvE doesn't have a level cap. Who's being dense now? |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
3485
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:43:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
Stop recommending EVE try to be more like boring, grindfest MMO's. Want to train more than one character at once...man up and use an alt like everyone else. Don't ever stick EVE in the same sentence as World of Warcraft ever again. |
Jonah Gravenstein
1317
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:43:00 -
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Din Chao wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Din Chao wrote:How do you train multiple WoW characters at the same time? You must have extra hands or sumthin' Oh, don't be dense. He's referring to the fact that you hit max level really quickly in games like WoW, thus it's fairly trivial to have multiple max skill toons on one account, which lets the gamer pick their playstyle du jour: DPS one day, Tank the next, and Healer for when you really don't want to spend much time in the dungeon finder queue. The problem with Eve is that it takes too long to hit the level cap on even one toon. Thus, the real solution is to dramatically speed up training in Eve and to add end game content such as alliance raids to grind gear. Because, let's be honest here, Eve doesn't really start until you hit the level cap at which point you can go backfill your achievements, play the battlegrounds, and raid for those purple item sets. WHAT F'ING LEVEL CAP!? EvE doesn't have a level cap. Who's being dense now?
I believe your sarcasm detector needs repairing CCP can't patch stupid. |
Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:49:00 -
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Eh, nevermind |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
306
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:20:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:Hi CCP
CCP please imagine all of your CCP members are not CCP employe,they just normal players who love EvE, SF themes and own characters, you have to agree with me, you would hate fact that every account is restricted because players can train only one character at once, while they got abbility to create and use three characters per account.
Even in games like WOW, Lineage, RIFT, Gulid wars 2, and other RPG games (i know grind mmos) people got ability to create and train in most cases by grind multiple characters, with no restrictions, like in EvE.
This horrible restriction show that your company is very gredy, and tell to player want new alt made a secont account!!! I know Buissnes is buissnes and your company must grow, but come on...
This just most worse part of EvE, i got some seven years old character on my account with like 0 skill poibts because i focus only on main, in fact they can be terminated and biomased and replaced with new one who is one day long, because here no difirence betwen them.
CCP please answer to me, honest, what the point of three character per account while only one as (main) got sense for average player... Maybe because of jita price cheker as bonus ? ;)
Ps. Sorry for my horible grammar, English isynt my native language.
IF you allow multiple characters being trained at once, what you have done is opened yourself to people farming characters and selling them as a means of ISK generation in game or for RMT.
That is why you can only train 1 at a time.
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Kinet
Frog Steamers
8
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:20:00 -
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I have two hot chicks and this sorta bald dude. What more could I want? |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
493
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:03:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08 Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á |
Widow Cain
47
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:09:00 -
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Oxylan wrote:... show that your company is very gredy....
Pretty much hit the nail on the head, even if all the pixel macho assholes had to jump on your references to those other MMOs.
I'm just winding down paid time on my last account, when I found out that we pay so Dusties can play free the first thing that came to mind was "A fool and his money"
So all you pixel macho assholes, keep training, month by month, for a future that is never going to come.
OMG You are sooo pixel macho... |
Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
9
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:25:00 -
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Kinet wrote:I have two hot chicks and this sorta bald dude. What more could I want? hair? |
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
580
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Posted - 2012.09.19 00:45:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Main and two cyno alts.
On two accounts! (One account is a cap pilot) |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
93
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:01:00 -
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I think they should change it to two toons per account, but they can both train at once.
Multi account users arent like to cancel accounts as they could effectively double their toon count for the same price. And you can still only have one toon on at once on the same account. So people that want to run their own fleet of toons will still need multiple accounts. It is just a better idea. |
Cede Forster
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
89
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Posted - 2012.09.19 04:26:00 -
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As to "what is the point of 3 characters if you can only train with one"?
you got to love this one, gets 2 extra character, complains about it
so here it goes, 10 reasons why you have 2 extra characters that can not train at the same time
1) your first character is ugly and/or Minmatar but you dont want to biomass him/her 2) fake role play relations with yourself 3) fake role play love triangle with yourself 4) non trained character in a noobship to throw at things 5) train cyno on the second one, use it for your other account as cyno char 6) train cyno on the third one and put it somewhere else for your other account 7) reserve cool name case you have to biomass yourself after the embarrassment of posting a thread where you misspell the title of the game you are playing (in the title of your post). seriously this better be a troll because i can understand completely that you have trouble with the English language (so do I ) but misspelling the name of the game you play? that is awfully close to misspelling your own name 8) making a female character and play dress puppet with her 9) stopping to train a character because you learned everything you want 10) because CCP was just for once trying to be nice to you
and i forgot 11)
11) posting on one so you do not get fired from EVE UNI by Kelduum |
Jojo Booties
3
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Posted - 2012.09.19 06:49:00 -
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+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:22:00 -
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Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
then rich boys get the advantage. no. |
Pipa Porto
962
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:26:00 -
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Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
Why should it be such a big discount over having multiple accounts? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto
Woof. |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
131
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:48:00 -
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Once your main finds a role that can sustain your monthly ISK cost to play you can pause his training to make alts. Stealth bomber, scanner, dessie gank alt. Anything but miner is a good choice. You should always have a Jita alt if for no other reason than to watch the riots, an Amarr alt is nice. A totally good for nothing else but scouting war targets alt is nice. Its nice to have at least 2 accounts just for the 4 alts.
Also its nice to fly ships in tandem, which requires 2 active accounts.
But IMHO if you could train on multiple characters on 1 account it would be insanely overpowered.
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Jojo Booties
4
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Posted - 2012.09.19 08:03:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
then rich boys get the advantage. no.
The rich boys and girls, can have all the accounts they please. Having multiple training on one account at a discount, would give the poor people a chance.
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Plaude Pollard
Crimson Cartel
80
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Posted - 2012.09.19 08:24:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Once your main finds a role that can sustain your monthly ISK cost to play you can pause his training to make alts. I'd honestly rather pay for multiple accounts to have 3 characters that can train at the same time than have to pause any of my skill-queues. But that's just because I hate wasting time and thus losing training-time. New to EVE? Want to learn? The Crimson Cartel will train you in the fields of your choice. Mainly active in EU afternoons and evenings. Contact me for more info. |
Din Chao
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:33:00 -
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Jojo Booties wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Jojo Booties wrote:+1
I would like to see something along the lines of paying a little extra on your sub depending on how many characters you want to have active training per account, such as......
Account were only one character can train at a time - -ú10 Account were two characters can train at a time - -ú15 Account were three characters can train at a time --ú20
Something along those lines.
then rich boys get the advantage. no. The rich boys and girls, can have all the accounts they please. Having multiple training on one account at a discount, would give the poor people a chance. A chance to what? What is this "holy grail" that you think you'll attain once you can train 3 characters at once?
You'll just find something else to cry about. |
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