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Samantha Rockpile
Caldari Debitum Naturae Drop the Hammer
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFResearch Running a passive card in a heavy environment like EVE = Epic fail. Passive cards need cooling air from the hard drive bay fan (Which many computers lack) to stay cool.
Stop blaming CCP for your failure to know how to cool your system.
Sorry Wasnt a passivefirst off and if you read any of my post you would know it was running at 72 before incarna as already stated. This was not a cooling issue before incarna as I HAVE stated already kinda the point of the thread.
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Maduin Ardens
Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Maduin Ardens on 07/07/2011 22:26:12
Originally by: The Drill
Originally by: OMGWTFResearch Running a passive card in a heavy environment like EVE = Epic fail. Passive cards need cooling air from the hard drive bay fan (Which many computers lack) to stay cool.
Stop blaming CCP for your failure to know how to cool your system.
Sorry Wasnt a passivefirst off and if you read any of my post you would know it was running at 72 before incarna as already stated. This was not a cooling issue before incarna as I HAVE stated already kinda the point of the thread.
I went to an oil change place 6-7 years ago and they replaced my fuel filter with one that wasn't fit for my vehicle, and to keep the line in place they used a computer zip tie. Needless to say, I was leaving for work the following morning and it popped off, i.e. my vehicle started spewing gas furiously, which is ya know, kind of extremely dangerous with a running engine.
Anyways, we called corporate since it was a national chain, and asked them to simply pay the $600 it cost to get it all fixed (entire fuel line had to be replaced) and you know what? They laughed at us. If I had money, we would have sued them for reckless endangerment, but I didn't, so I let it go, I just absolutely never go to those chains anymore and tell everyone I can about what happened.
SO, what do you think the chances are of you not only proving to CCP that it was absolutely and unequivocally their fault that your GPU burned up, and that they are going to even do anything about it? Cuz I had undeniable proof in hand, literally, and I got squat, not even an admission of wrongdoing.
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Ein Phantom
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Maduin Ardens Edited by: Maduin Ardens on 07/07/2011 22:26:12
Originally by: The Drill
Originally by: OMGWTFResearch Running a passive card in a heavy environment like EVE = Epic fail. Passive cards need cooling air from the hard drive bay fan (Which many computers lack) to stay cool.
Stop blaming CCP for your failure to know how to cool your system.
Sorry Wasnt a passivefirst off and if you read any of my post you would know it was running at 72 before incarna as already stated. This was not a cooling issue before incarna as I HAVE stated already kinda the point of the thread.
I went to an oil change place 6-7 years ago and they replaced my fuel filter with one that wasn't fit for my vehicle, and to keep the line in place they used a computer zip tie. Needless to say, I was leaving for work the following morning and it popped off, i.e. my vehicle started spewing gas furiously, which is ya know, kind of extremely dangerous with a running engine.
Anyways, we called corporate since it was a national chain, and asked them to simply pay the $600 it cost to get it all fixed (entire fuel line had to be replaced) and you know what? They laughed at us. If I had money, we would have sued them for reckless endangerment, but I didn't, so I let it go, I just absolutely never go to those chains anymore and tell everyone I can about what happened.
SO, what do you think the chances are of you not only proving to CCP that it was absolutely and unequivocally their fault that your GPU burned up, and that they are going to even do anything about it? Cuz I had undeniable proof in hand, literally, and I got squat, not even an admission of wrongdoing.
Please refrain from derailing the thread. It is pathetic.
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Opertone
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:28:00 -
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learn the lesson, learn the lesson well
BeNvidia - money spent on garbage and advertising
Also - if your card burns out - 1) voltage fault 2) excessive heat. Dust, heat, smoke, moisture - the enemies of the hardware. CCP has nothing to do with failing video cards. If you could cool it sufficiently it would not burn out.
Finally, what brand of video card. If it is colorsys, palit, his it is no surprise. It's a surprise to have them in working condition right out of the box. They fail within 1-12 months anyway.
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Kumq uat
Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:30:00 -
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I run an ATI 5870 which is quite the big boy card but I will not let CQ run on it for fear it will fry an over 300 dollar card. Kinda sad --------------------------------------- www.eve-pirate.com original author |
Digital Messiah
Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:37:00 -
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Incarna needs lower requirements to run properly, and players are responsible for watching their computer hardware. /thread
Also, making threads about this isn't helping the fact that you eventually should upgrade your system. I just bought a 6870 "$180" usd, for my brother. If you have a job, parents, or can do 9 side jobs for 20 bucks, it's not that expensive considering.
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:38:00 -
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If you were running even close to 70 pre incarna you are lucky it wasn't already fried.
I don't know what to say about this if you aint trolling.
. Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Valkmar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:50:00 -
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ive been running with a gtx 275 for nearly 2 years and that runs from anything between 50 - 100 degrees depending on the game and never had any problems. Pretty sure that you cannot ''fry'' your GPU in such a short space of time so just go away trollybollywolly.
If true. Just upgrading your GPU for about ú100 or less wnt break the bank . Cheap, decent cards on ebuyer or ebay. Its not like CQ is even that intense on GPUs. Or at least cards that are not 5 or 6 years old anyway.
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Edgar Loke
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Posted - 2011.07.07 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Edgar Loke on 07/07/2011 22:53:15
Originally by: Kumq uat I run an ATI 5870 which is quite the big boy card but I will not let CQ run on it for fear it will fry an over 300 dollar card. Kinda sad
Doesn't ATI offer lifetime warranties on their cards? If the card kills itself and the card is carried under ATI's warranty then you shouldn't need to worry about it. If Incarna kills your card, then it was going to happen sooner than you thought anyways.
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Oh god my eyes! Seriously people clean your freaking towers out! This is what kills your components. Its like running your car with no oil change for a year or two and then blaming the guys that made the roads when the engine locks up.
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Maduin Ardens
Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Maduin Ardens on 07/07/2011 23:11:07
Originally by: Edgar Loke Edited by: Edgar Loke on 07/07/2011 22:53:15
Originally by: Kumq uat I run an ATI 5870 which is quite the big boy card but I will not let CQ run on it for fear it will fry an over 300 dollar card. Kinda sad
Doesn't ATI offer lifetime warranties on their cards? If the card kills itself and the card is carried under ATI's warranty then you shouldn't need to worry about it. If Incarna kills your card, then it was going to happen sooner than you thought anyways.
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Oh god my eyes! Seriously people clean your freaking towers out! This is what kills your components. Its like running your car with no oil change for a year or two and then blaming the guys that made the roads when the engine locks up.
It's possible, but it's one-time only I'm sure, same as XBOX replacement warranty.
Bunch of folks blow hundreds of dollars on XBOX360, it redlines within a week, XBOX replaces it, it redlines again, from then on Microsoft tells them where they can shove it unless they start chucking out some money, a very sad state of affairs for a lot of unlucky people... that's why I waited to get mine until the Halo 2 SE came out, because it was using the new generation of hardware that supposedly didn't have the redline problem.
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Reloadin
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:37:00 -
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Have to state once again that if you can't run your CPU and GPU at 100% then something is wrong with your hardware or cooling setup. Just because a card comes with a nice big shiny heatsink and omg listen to that fan doesn't mean it's going to achieve anything in a poorly ventilated case.
Furmark is probably the most popular GPU stress tester. Run that for 10-15 mins to test stability and overclocks. Once it seems stable keep it going for a couple of hours to make sure.
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
Once you're up and running with a stable config get a program like MSI Afterburner to actively monitor temps and usage.
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm
While you're at it might as well test the CPU as well. Prime95 is probably one of the more popular multicore stress testing programs.
There's no reason to blame anyone but yourself for cpu/gpu overheating problems, it just shows typical user igrnorance.
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Uglavitch Nefrex
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:42:00 -
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CCP will never admit liability no point posting this.
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Frank Truck
ACME Mineral and Gas
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:46:00 -
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I stuck a high end GPU in a crappy off the shelf computer with stock cooling and it fried...
Really, why waste money on those gaming computers, you don't need upgraded cooling, that is just for rich geeks.
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Kumq uat
Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 23:52:00 -
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Yeah, I really don't want to fry out my card on my only form of entertainment in my apartment I have along with my grad school work I do on it. --------------------------------------- www.eve-pirate.com original author |
ToolPhucker
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Posted - 2011.07.08 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Samantha Rockpile And how am i overtaxing my GPU if its well withing the Req's?
If your not rolling with proper cooling or your system isnt clean. That also being said you card when properly ventalated and/or cooled should happily run at 100% for hours and hours adn hours.
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VAsh Ozuwara
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:10:00 -
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it is always a good idea to monitor your system. never just assume that everything is fine.
it would be a great idea to grab EVGA precision or MSI Afterburner and set up the OSD to show stuff like your gpu usage and temps, along with FPS. not only will this help you fine tune your settings for what your card is capable of, it will let you know if you are overheating.
as others have said, the best thing you can do for your system is to provide proper cooling to the components that need it. "just cause" it was not topping over 72 before is not a good way to benchmark your cooling performance.
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Ava n'Daara
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:19:00 -
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Pry the sheild off of your graphics card and recoil in horror at all the dust inside that wouldn't otherwise blow out. Suddenly you'll realize the frying is your fault and you'll never have that problem again.
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Cassidy Dee
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:29:00 -
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GPU core temperature has nothing whatsoever to do with the software running, only utilization, cooling mechanisms, airflow/waterflow, ambient temperatures etc. "CQ runs at 100% and this other game runs at 100% and CQ is hotter!". When you say these things, we know you are lying.
Why is it everyone thinks theres some magic API ccp is calling. ATI.OvereatLOL. Seriously.
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Maduin Ardens
Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Maduin Ardens on 08/07/2011 02:38:29
Originally by: Cassidy Dee GPU core temperature has nothing whatsoever to do with the software running, only utilization, cooling mechanisms, airflow/waterflow, ambient temperatures etc. "CQ runs at 100% and this other game runs at 100% and CQ is hotter!". When you say these things, we know you are lying.
Why is it everyone thinks theres some magic API ccp is calling. ATI.OvereatLOL. Seriously.
It's easier for them to blame it on things they don't understand, human nature and all that, if the herd dies, it must be a witch, so let's grab the pitchforks and go hunting kinda thing.
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Enforcer guard
Space Marine Academy Nulli Tertius
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:40:00 -
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My XFX Radeon 5870 runs EVE at max without any heat problems
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Rumple Fourskin
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: K'iran My 4870X2 goes into massive overdrive when I load incarna, only thing that works is very low settings which be default make it a useless thing in the first place. And that's just 1 account. So I do hope the "I can't be fekked with incarna" tick box stays in the game.
hmm thats odd my 4890 runs 2 clients maxed at around 35fps. I dont dare leave the computer idle in that environment. If I want to idle with eve on I undock. With how much people idle with eve running its shameful that the state uses massive amounts of energy. Shame CCP shame. EVE isnt doom3 or crysis, you should think about tdp of your client.
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Rumple Fourskin
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cassidy Dee GPU core temperature has nothing whatsoever to do with the software running, only utilization, cooling mechanisms, airflow/waterflow, ambient temperatures etc. "CQ runs at 100% and this other game runs at 100% and CQ is hotter!". When you say these things, we know you are lying.
Why is it everyone thinks theres some magic API ccp is calling. ATI.OvereatLOL. Seriously.
Thats not true. There are fps caps that game engines put on. There was a recent game that they forgot to do that on the menu page of the game with 3d stuff and it was killing cards.
http://www.blogphotovideo.com/games/starcraft-2-menu-killing-pcs-video-card
How do we know ccp has employed this fps cap?
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daddys helper
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:52:00 -
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sorry folks, but honestly if you cant go out and spend 20 bucks on a 200 series card you deserve to play pong.
minecrack would stress out the cards you people are clinging on to as though your lives depended on it.
really, 50 bucks less a 30 dollar rebate = 20 bucks for a GT220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500129&cm_re=gt_220-_-14-500-129-_-Product
no you wont be able to multi-client but you can run the damn game pretty well. its what I use and I have no complaints.
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Cassidy Dee
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Posted - 2011.07.08 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rumple Fourskin
Originally by: Cassidy Dee GPU core temperature has nothing whatsoever to do with the software running, only utilization, cooling mechanisms, airflow/waterflow, ambient temperatures etc. "CQ runs at 100% and this other game runs at 100% and CQ is hotter!". When you say these things, we know you are lying.
Why is it everyone thinks theres some magic API ccp is calling. ATI.OvereatLOL. Seriously.
Thats not true. There are fps caps that game engines put on. There was a recent game that they forgot to do that on the menu page of the game with 3d stuff and it was killing cards.
http://www.blogphotovideo.com/games/starcraft-2-menu-killing-pcs-video-card
How do we know ccp has employed this fps cap?
Vertical Synch off doesnt overheat your GPU. The bottom line is utilization. Is CQ more resource intesive than it should be? Yes, it uses a lot more GPU than I would have expected. But its not causing heat issues.
Again, there is no magic setting, magic API call, or creole voodoo that causes overheating issues.
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Leona Elum
Save Jita
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Posted - 2011.07.08 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: Leona Elum on 08/07/2011 03:04:12 This happened alot when Blizzard released StarCraft II, and their forums was full of rage to say the least. I can't say for sure how that played out, but they "got away" I think by referring to the minimum specs.
That said I too notice how my 1 year old GeForce 9800 GT has to work pretty hard ever since Incarna. Even when in space and with the CQ disabled the GPU fan seems to rev more than usual. And when I do enable the CQ it sounds like it's gonna take off, taking the entire casing with it.
Looking to get a GeForce GTX 570 now though (linky), and I'll be damned if that card can't handle it..
[ IGB: www.savejita.evezone.org ] |
daddys helper
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Posted - 2011.07.08 03:04:00 -
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people,
just because you bought your card x months ago its still much older
a 9800 a year old? HA try 2008
sure duty time matters, but old tech is old tech
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Wreckar
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Posted - 2011.07.08 03:36:00 -
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Edited by: Wreckar on 08/07/2011 03:36:54
Originally by: daddys helper people,
just because you bought your card x months ago its still much older
a 9800 a year old? HA try 2008
sure duty time matters, but old tech is old tech
My 9600gt runs two clients in CQ just fine. No problems with overheating, but then I spent some time on my case and cooling because of hot summers. I'll happily fall soundly asleep with them both idling in CQ.
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P42ALPHA
Gallente nul-li-fy Usurper.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 03:56:00 -
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OP, you will have to wait till they optimize CQ before u see any change in your gpu. Nothing u can really due short of getting a bucket of ice and blowing a fan behind it onto ur computer
To get it down a little bit, I have noticed that anti-alias turned up on a Nvidia card really cranks up the heat in CQ,(so just turn that off) and turning on Post Processing brought it down a tiny bit also.
But I have 3 seperate machines, varying in hardware, and have windows and Ubuntu on them all. They have all seen a huge increase in temp when running eve-regardless of OS. At least in Linux I have found it to run much smother with using older Nvidia drivers. But regardless there is a issue with CQ, and what it is duing to our machines. Why else would CCP sticky a topic that has to do with exactly the issue You, I, and many others are having.
The responses in this thread is exactly why you never ask a gamer about how a computer works, some of these are priceless.
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Important Person
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Posted - 2011.07.08 04:07:00 -
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Why mai video card overheat???
CCP you break my computer and now you must pay!
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Deryk Kyeld
Veteran Defense Initiative
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Posted - 2011.07.08 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xaelix Sativa In the span of 4 years, I've had 4 GPU's fail while playing EVE. First I thought it was my cooling, then I thought it was my wiring, then I realized every one of those cards was an EVGA card. So I bought a PNY after my 8800 went into full-artifact mode and I'll never, ever buy an EVGA GPU again.
Lol? EVGA is the best designer of Nvidia GPUs.
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