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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.06.28 02:23:00 -
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Hi,
There are quite a few ships in the eve database that can't be bought on any market, and are left over from past experiments but are "flyable" or used by NPCs ingame. While these ships haven't been updated to the new (PGS) texturing they could quite easily be made available to be bought on the NEX exchange.
Alternate base colours could also be made alot quicker using the existing method rather than waiting for ship hulls to get remodelled/ retextured. While the colour controls may be restricted due to how the old texturing method works and there is less control over completely unique patterns, I think players would still be happy with buying these BPCs.
My question is, would you as a player be interesting in being able to purchase ship bpcs for vessels that have the older texturing style (and the same stats as their t1 hulls where applicable), on the NEX exchange?
Some existing examples from the database:
You are probably wondering why I'm asking this when you know they're already going to offer the Ihskone Scorpions on the NEX Exchange. CCP doesn't actually NEED to upgrade any ships to the new texturing system before they can be sold, and I think alot of people would be happy with buying some of the old styled textured ships even if the colours tend to be "washed" out and the options limited. While this will add more development time a later stage when the base models do get upgraded, it would be much easier to impliment now, and it would allow for much needed cash injection with alot less grief from the playerbase. As each ship would have its own unique database ID they'de be able to be sold on the normal market.
My proposal for CCP is to :
- Incrementally make all existing ships in the database that aren't available now but have no fittings slots (Except Jove) available on the NEX Exchange, with all unique models costing a premium price and variants of hulls a lesser amount- purchasable as a fully constructed ships.
- Immediately release a selection of 7 new base coloured variants of one hull from each ship class, per race, available to be bought on the NEX Exchange - purchasable as a BPC with exactly the same stats as the original hulls
- Incrementally make available existing ships in the database that have fitting slots and unique models availble on the NEX Exchange for a *Premium Amount* (in limited runs) as BPCs
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:32:00 -
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reserved.
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2011.06.28 05:35:00 -
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Edited by: Oberine Noriepa on 28/06/2011 05:36:34 This is actually a really good idea.
EDIT: Sorry if I broke your posting streak.
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Monev Szutef
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.28 06:09:00 -
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I like where this is going. However, I could see the "Red" colour ships priced higher than other. Due to getting blown up often.
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Eve Survey
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:25:00 -
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Unoriginality
Gallente Unoriginal Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Unoriginality on 28/06/2011 20:41:54
Originally by: Monev Szutef I like where this is going. However, I could see the "Red" colour ships priced higher than other. Due to getting blown up often.
This is wrong because everyone knows that red ones go faster. It could be the new nano speed tank.
Also, I want the black and red Roden paintjob for my Mega.
Edit for dodgy spelling.
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Viibl Triibl
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Viibl Triibl on 28/06/2011 20:42:10 Here's a way to light a fire under CCP, give them a little extra cash and get the stuff we want in faster: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1541960
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Faith Clothos
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Monev Szutef I like where this is going. However, I could see the "Red" colour ships priced higher than other. Due to getting blown up often.
Good luck with that.
Red ships go 3 times as fast.
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Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:46:00 -
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My advice? Make it so that we can purchase "paint kits" like in Star Wars Galaxies - they are two-tint paint kits that lets us retint a ship's Tint #1 and Tint #2.
This would generate another revenue stream for Planetary Interaction, actually. :)
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Eve Survey
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vin Hellsing My advice? Make it so that we can purchase "paint kits" like in Star Wars Galaxies - they are two-tint paint kits that lets us retint a ship's Tint #1 and Tint #2.
This would generate another revenue stream for Planetary Interaction, actually. :)
people use PI? I will have to make that into a survey question.
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Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Survey
Originally by: Vin Hellsing My advice? Make it so that we can purchase "paint kits" like in Star Wars Galaxies - they are two-tint paint kits that lets us retint a ship's Tint #1 and Tint #2.
This would generate another revenue stream for Planetary Interaction, actually. :)
people use PI? I will have to make that into a survey question.
I know that I am experimenting with PI. :) It seems like a very fun concept!
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Faelune
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Faelune on 28/06/2011 20:51:58 Sorry. My vessels is stealth painting only. Any uses. For 60$ I want my Bs gets a shuttle signature. I don't want to be pink and vulnerable.
/me Sheshire cat inside. they have put a finger on gear block. Be prepared to replace arms until the shoulder with prothesis.
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PureSoul
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.28 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Survey Edited by: Eve Survey on 28/06/2011 20:51:11
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I want this NOW! Why monocle first, ship paint is better!
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Bevil Smyth
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.28 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Eve Survey Edited by: Eve Survey on 28/06/2011 20:51:11
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.06.29 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bevil Smyth
Originally by: Eve Survey
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QFT
I'll make a proper version when I find some time, but its just pipe dreams sadly. :P
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Original Forum Troll
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Posted - 2011.06.29 07:46:00 -
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CCP,hire this person right now
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.29 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Original Forum Troll CCP,hire this person right now
Ummm, they don't need any of this for WoD or Dust so no go
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.29 08:03:00 -
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See I think this is where they went wrong.
Ship Paint Jobs, Corp/Alliance Logos on Ships, Ships in Corp Colors/Alliance Colors could of been big sellers, but if they price them along the same lines of what's up they'll not get much sells. 1-2 dollars a pop and yeah you'd see alliance fleets start having specific colors and corps having specific colors. It would be something that would add to the immersion. On the other hand with a monocle being almost 70 dollars, I guess they'd expect a 100 dollars or more for something like this.
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.06.29 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga See I think this is where they went wrong.
Ship Paint Jobs, Corp/Alliance Logos on Ships, Ships in Corp Colors/Alliance Colors could of been big sellers, but if they price them along the same lines of what's up they'll not get much sells. 1-2 dollars a pop and yeah you'd see alliance fleets start having specific colors and corps having specific colors. It would be something that would add to the immersion. On the other hand with a monocle being almost 70 dollars, I guess they'd expect a 100 dollars or more for something like this.
I was going to go into this on the second post, but I'd be thinking something along the lines of:
- Corp and Alliance logos - minimal price
- Unique hulled Shuttles or ships that have no fitting slots - moderate price
- Generic hulled Shuttles or ships that have no fitting slots - minimal price
- Generic hulls with alternate base colour combinations but able to be customised further - minimal price
- Limited release hulls - expensive
- Rare or single release hulls - uber expensive or players bid with Aurum
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Noceur-01 Tiers
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.29 16:26:00 -
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Splendid idea.
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Zakua Corbin
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Posted - 2011.06.29 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga See I think this is where they went wrong.
Ship Paint Jobs, Corp/Alliance Logos on Ships, Ships in Corp Colors/Alliance Colors could of been big sellers, but if they price them along the same lines of what's up they'll not get much sells. 1-2 dollars a pop and yeah you'd see alliance fleets start having specific colors and corps having specific colors. It would be something that would add to the immersion. On the other hand with a monocle being almost 70 dollars, I guess they'd expect a 100 dollars or more for something like this.
Oh god I hope not a $100...lordy that'd be an azzhat move wouldn't it?
Yes I looove the idea and what El'Niaga says about immersion and stuff ...I just want it! THis really would be something thousands would spend $5 bucks a ship on, I know I would, I'd drop $50 right now to do up my 10 fav ships.
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zakua Corbin
Originally by: El'Niaga See I think this is where they went wrong.
Ship Paint Jobs, Corp/Alliance Logos on Ships, Ships in Corp Colors/Alliance Colors could of been big sellers, but if they price them along the same lines of what's up they'll not get much sells. 1-2 dollars a pop and yeah you'd see alliance fleets start having specific colors and corps having specific colors. It would be something that would add to the immersion. On the other hand with a monocle being almost 70 dollars, I guess they'd expect a 100 dollars or more for something like this.
Oh god I hope not a $100...lordy that'd be an azzhat move wouldn't it?
Yes I looove the idea and what El'Niaga says about immersion and stuff ...I just want it! THis really would be something thousands would spend $5 bucks a ship on, I know I would, I'd drop $50 right now to do up my 10 fav ships.
I would expect that if there was a good selection of alternate hull colours (at low to moderate prices) that some small amount of uber rare ones at extreme prices would be ok aswell.
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Spookyjay
Caldari Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:43:00 -
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TBH i actually was under the assumption this is what CCP would do. It seemed the intelligent way forward. I was expecting this almost exactlyas you have put it forward.
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Sakagami Miyuki
Amarr War Industries Empire Industry
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:54:00 -
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I'd be happy to get that Purple paintjob on my sleipnir. Purple with black Stripes Signature removed for not being EVE Related. Zymurgist |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.07.06 05:23:00 -
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Wen Jaibao
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Posted - 2011.07.06 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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You're missing a meat, there's no dipping sauce rigs on it, and what is that in your highs? Lol, fail pizza is fail.
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BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.07.06 06:30:00 -
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I have to inform you that your pizza is missing the bacon.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.06 06:48:00 -
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People are indeed 'desperately' looking for a way to distinguish themselves, identity-wise. Corp/Alliance logos on ships, ship-skins, these would all sell like crazy. CCP, fire the guys in your messed-up marketing department, and listen to your customers for a change! I'm not kidding. If you had introduced this for MT, you would have had a very happy forum.
I love Incarna identity too. More BiS (Barbie In Space) stuff is good: ways to customize your captain's quarters would be highly welcomed by me, but I realize it's not for everyone. The above stuff, however, is.
I don't like the idea of going cheap on just reusing old skins, though. Make the effort, CCP. Design something good. I guarantee you people will buy these items.
P.S. Indeed, don't make the mistake again of asking $80 for an individual skin. Instead, apply the simply principle that selling 200x $8 skins will bring you more money than selling 5x $80 skins. Do the former, and we'll throw in a sizeable portion of goodwill for free.
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Ni'ark
Parnassius Corporation Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.07.06 07:51:00 -
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bump
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.07.06 07:57:00 -
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I'd still rather CCP spent some time squashing bugs, fixing horrendous UI crap like the new turret icons and the window's X vanishing when trying to click it, etc, and improving current features.
But yeah - if the models are already present I see no reason why CCP shouldn't sell them as a trade for a regular hull of the same type. -- Frog blast the vent core! |
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