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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.27 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Comy 1 There was alot of people that posted positively about Incarna even on day 1. Just that we were drowned in the spam making of threads by the very space mad people. But since our pulse were not at 180 and blood preassure up the roof, we refrained from spamming, which made us drown in the sea of threads.
Oh give me a break even discounting the whole space gold nonsense of MT, Incarna is a joke of an expansion. 1 room with buggy graphics a crap control system and one of the worse camera controls I've ever seen in a game is hardly something to rave about.
The only way I can see anyone being impressed by this bit of rushed out crap is if they've never played any other avatar based video game.
The really depressing thing is that it took them how many years to get this out to suck this much?
No way Incarna is ready for primetime the only reason I can imagine it was released in this state is to make an opening for the NEX.
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Shova Kais
Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:00:00 -
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U jelly?
He ttly jelly.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: ILikeMarkets I love how anyone who isn't butt-hurt about this patch and immediately cancelling their subscriptions is immediately labeled a fanboi or company alt.
It is the same in every game. Hell, go look at Rift forums for another example of this. The whiners get out there and *****/complain and then say anyone who disagrees with them must be a fanboi.
Some folks just aren't that tightly wound. Get over it. I read the newsletter. I saw the patch notes. I saw how much a stupid vanity item costs. I saw that in the future they will sell ships and God knows what else for real cash.
A) The newsletter didn't make me "outraged". B) I don't give a crap about vanity items. Let em charge $70 for an eye accessory- WHO CARES? C) Yes, because CCP sponsored RMT is so different than now. New player who is rich as hell starts the game. Drops $1,000, hits the char bazaar and purchases a large SP base character. Drops another $100-$200 and buys a pretty kickass ship for that character. I'm trying so hard to see how the future is any different than now.
So... will I quit over any of the stuff folks have been screaming about, with tears in their eyes? No. I want a sci-fi game and my options aren't exactly overflowing here. Its EVE or Star Trek or... what? Not many internet spaceships out there. Does that make me a fanboi? Well, since I'm not crying and shouting that I'm cancelling my two subs then I guess I'll be labeled one. Does that make me a CCP employee? No, but I wouldn't say no to a job offer >_>
HI CCP alt
Guess ill will repeat it again. PLEX before incarna could only be used to buy in game items made or sold by other players. Anything you could buy or sell could be bought by any other player.
The plan for the nex store seems to be to subvert and destroy the player market by removing the player interaction with the market aspect of plex.
And to offer special items/ships that only those spending money can get.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:03:00 -
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I'm doing this CCP fanboying just for the lulz.
I actually DON'T care that much about what people do with their Çuros (or Kwanstain dollar$) - because I play AO and last month spend 100Ç to get better gear for myself. If CCP is seeing that they need moar cash for their next youtube music video, then by all means, do so. You people are just angry because you don't get any of that cash floating around. Just stop this stupid protest and support me so I can get my own monocle!
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Comy 1
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Skex Relbore
Originally by: Comy 1 There was alot of people that posted positively about Incarna even on day 1. Just that we were drowned in the spam making of threads by the very space mad people. But since our pulse were not at 180 and blood preassure up the roof, we refrained from spamming, which made us drown in the sea of threads.
Oh give me a break even discounting the whole space gold nonsense of MT, Incarna is a joke of an expansion. 1 room with buggy graphics a crap control system and one of the worse camera controls I've ever seen in a game is hardly something to rave about.
The only way I can see anyone being impressed by this bit of rushed out crap is if they've never played any other avatar based video game.
The really depressing thing is that it took them how many years to get this out to suck this much?
No way Incarna is ready for primetime the only reason I can imagine it was released in this state is to make an opening for the NEX.
Do you think making the room took them all that time? For starters it was probably a sub team that worked on it initially, and it ended up with the character creator and the physics engine that will probably be used in both Dust and WoD. There is ALOT more work behind the small room you can see today, and alot of people seem to underestimate the work and effort behind it.
A gaming company is not made up of X employees that all possess the same skills and work on the same things all day every day. This might sound like a nobrainer, but most people REALLY DON'T get it. I doubt CCP employees sit on their assess all day watching youtube not doing anything, untill enough people spam the forums. I mean what do you think they do? Throw some half assed crap together in a few days?
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Digital Messiah
Oregami Ultd
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:19:00 -
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I thought more highly of this forum and some of its player base before the jita riot. I for one haven't gone gallivanting about the forums like a mingebag complaining about stupid $#!7. Yes CCP patched their game, no you cannot have free skill points or a sudden change in content they have spent half a year or more making. CCP done made you all eat rainbow sherbert instead of rocky road. If you don't like it, stop eating from the damned ice cream truck.
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Comy 1
Originally by: Skex Relbore
Originally by: Comy 1 There was alot of people that posted positively about Incarna even on day 1. Just that we were drowned in the spam making of threads by the very space mad people. But since our pulse were not at 180 and blood preassure up the roof, we refrained from spamming, which made us drown in the sea of threads.
Oh give me a break even discounting the whole space gold nonsense of MT, Incarna is a joke of an expansion. 1 room with buggy graphics a crap control system and one of the worse camera controls I've ever seen in a game is hardly something to rave about.
The only way I can see anyone being impressed by this bit of rushed out crap is if they've never played any other avatar based video game.
The really depressing thing is that it took them how many years to get this out to suck this much?
No way Incarna is ready for primetime the only reason I can imagine it was released in this state is to make an opening for the NEX.
Do you think making the room took them all that time? For starters it was probably a sub team that worked on it initially, and it ended up with the character creator and the physics engine that will probably be used in both Dust and WoD. There is ALOT more work behind the small room you can see today, and alot of people seem to underestimate the work and effort behind it.
A gaming company is not made up of X employees that all possess the same skills and work on the same things all day every day. This might sound like a nobrainer, but most people REALLY DON'T get it. I doubt CCP employees sit on their assess all day watching youtube not doing anything, untill enough people spam the forums. I mean what do you think they do? Throw some half assed crap together in a few days?
That doesn't change the fact that it's a **** implementation of something that dozens of companies have done and done better over a decade ago.
There is no excuse, if they didn't have the know-how in house they should have hired someone who did. Someone from Sony or Blizard or any of a dozen developers who've built such systems in the past.
Understand I'm not talking about the graphics engine I expect stuff like that to be buggy and I give them credit for trying something new and understand that they'll tweak the performance overtime> I'm talking about the ****ty controls and crap camera. EQ had a more intuitive and smooth avatar control system 11 years ago.
It isn't ready for primetime it wasn't ready to be deployed and sure as hell shouldn't have been the whole of Incarna. At best it should have been an optional add on to a normal space based expansion to shrink wrap beta the tech. It most certainly should not have replaced the existing hanger interface and most damned well should never have been compulsory in it's current state.
Don't get me wrong I'm actually very supportive of the concept of WIS and I think it has the potential to really grow the playerbase but this thing they released last week is hardly worth calling a beta much less an expansion.
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:56:00 -
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Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 27/06/2011 07:56:48
Originally by: Skex Relbore
Originally by: Comy 1
Originally by: Skex Relbore
Originally by: Comy 1 There was alot of people that posted positively about Incarna even on day 1. Just that we were drowned in the spam making of threads by the very space mad people. But since our pulse were not at 180 and blood preassure up the roof, we refrained from spamming, which made us drown in the sea of threads.
Oh give me a break even discounting the whole space gold nonsense of MT, Incarna is a joke of an expansion. 1 room with buggy graphics a crap control system and one of the worse camera controls I've ever seen in a game is hardly something to rave about.
The only way I can see anyone being impressed by this bit of rushed out crap is if they've never played any other avatar based video game.
The really depressing thing is that it took them how many years to get this out to suck this much?
No way Incarna is ready for primetime the only reason I can imagine it was released in this state is to make an opening for the NEX.
Do you think making the room took them all that time? For starters it was probably a sub team that worked on it initially, and it ended up with the character creator and the physics engine that will probably be used in both Dust and WoD. There is ALOT more work behind the small room you can see today, and alot of people seem to underestimate the work and effort behind it.
A gaming company is not made up of X employees that all possess the same skills and work on the same things all day every day. This might sound like a nobrainer, but most people REALLY DON'T get it. I doubt CCP employees sit on their assess all day watching youtube not doing anything, untill enough people spam the forums. I mean what do you think they do? Throw some half assed crap together in a few days?
That doesn't change the fact that it's a **** implementation of something that dozens of companies have done and done better over a decade ago.
There is no excuse, if they didn't have the know-how in house they should have hired someone who did. Someone from Sony or Blizard or any of a dozen developers who've built such systems in the past.
Understand I'm not talking about the graphics engine I expect stuff like that to be buggy and I give them credit for trying something new and understand that they'll tweak the performance overtime> I'm talking about the ****ty controls and crap camera. EQ had a more intuitive and smooth avatar control system 11 years ago.
It isn't ready for primetime it wasn't ready to be deployed and sure as hell shouldn't have been the whole of Incarna. At best it should have been an optional add on to a normal space based expansion to shrink wrap beta the tech. It most certainly should not have replaced the existing hanger interface and most damned well should never have been compulsory in it's current state.
Don't get me wrong I'm actually very supportive of the concept of WIS and I think it has the potential to really grow the playerbase but this thing they released last week is hardly worth calling a beta much less an expansion.
If this is how you really feel, why didn't you express this earlier when the compulsory nature was essentially announced?
Oh, right, you people don't bother to read everything CCP posts because 'tl;dr' and then when $#!t happens, you whine and whine, and then you need some cheese to go with that.
Trying not to be too harsh, though. I do agree (or at the very least respect, depending) with sentiments expressed, but, for me, at least, it's not quite time to blow up. After this week... I might join you. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
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Lilliana Stelles
Caldari Nagrom Security Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:59:00 -
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There have been players supporting CCP and MT this whole time.
They were just outnumbered until the forum rage died down a bit.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lilliana Stelles There have been players supporting CCP and MT this whole time.
They were just outnumbered until the forum rage died down a bit.
And they are still outnumbered. And seemingly masochist and sycophants at best.
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: Lilliana Stelles There have been players supporting CCP and MT this whole time.
They were just outnumbered until the forum rage died down a bit.
And they are still outnumbered. And seemingly masochist and sycophants at best.
Masochists? In EVE? Surely you jest! ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread. |
Dan Wilkie
Gallente Universal Freelance
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:14:00 -
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I rarely post here, but I just thought I'd (for once) wade in with my two pennies worth...
Since I started playing Eve in 2004, there's ALWAYS been something that's ruining the game, going to destroy the game, unbalancing the game, etc etc (anyone remember real Nano'd ships?). And yet it's still going...
Incarna didn't really add much for me, but I can see why they did it, being a business with a bottom line to consider.
At the end of the day, I'll keep playing till I cease to enjoy it, then I'll stop.
If it offends you that much, then just stop playing.
(Not a CCP alt, not unless they created me 7 years ago because they've been planning this since then - OMG it's a conspiracy!)
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dan Wilkie I rarely post here, but I just thought I'd (for once) wade in with my two pennies worth...
Since I started playing Eve in 2004, there's ALWAYS been something that's ruining the game, going to destroy the game, unbalancing the game, etc etc (anyone remember real Nano'd ships?). And yet it's still going...
Incarna didn't really add much for me, but I can see why they did it, being a business with a bottom line to consider.
At the end of the day, I'll keep playing till I cease to enjoy it, then I'll stop.
If it offends you that much, then just stop playing.
(Not a CCP alt, not unless they created me 7 years ago because they've been planning this since then - OMG it's a conspiracy!)
So you must not have read any of the leaked stuff then. And the lies that were exposed and how they look at the players that pay their wages.
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Issona
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:16:00 -
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People really need to move on from this, we got what we wanted with the confirmation of no "golden ammo" so just leave it at that.
If you really cant handle it anymore then go play something else?
less talk, more walk....
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Molokhe
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Viziam
Originally by: RougeOperator
So all the sudden there is the magical showing of support for CCP.
3 days with no one voicing these ridiculous pro-MT statements.
CCP comes into the office and all of a sudden you have 20 people with no corp or avatar posting distracting black-intel and propaganda.
Or.. maybe the grownups with a little sense didn't bother getting into the screaming matches with little pukes spewing temper tantrums all over the forum. Nah, that can't be it!
Sums it up. There have been some good points raised about a potential threat of MT, but they've been swamped by a load of poorly reasoned and generally bad posts. As a non-CCP player, I've got no interest in joining in a screaming paranoid match, were any counter claims makes that poster a fanboy, a CCP alt or a PR Firm.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Issona People really need to move on from this, we got what we wanted with the confirmation of no "golden ammo" so just leave it at that.
If you really cant handle it anymore then go play something else?
less talk, more walk....
HI sheeple, whats it like being a mindless cow?
Also if you read that as anything other then a carefully worded dodge then you are a fool. It doesnt actually say or promise anything. Or offer anything substantial.
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Dan Wilkie
Gallente Universal Freelance
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator So you must not have read any of the leaked stuff then. And the lies that were exposed and how they look at the players that pay their wages.
Yeah I read it, I just chose not really care. I don't care in the slightest about the politics or policies of the company behind the game. To me, it's just that, a game I pay to play. If things actually change in a direction I find makes the game untenable for me then I'll quit and go play something else, or get a hobby or something.
The rumours that that might happen based on a leaked internal document are not enough to bother me. And to be honest, even if everything prophesied did become true, none of it really ruins the game for me.
Sure, someone will have a navy issue golden megathron with Tech 8 railguns. That doesn't really affect me. If needs be, I'll change my play style and explore a differenet path (hell, I've done that a lot too). And if I can't find one that works, I'll leave then. It's not the end of the world.
On a side note though, when your subscription expires, can I have your stuff since I'll be the only person left by the sounds of things?
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Molokhe
Originally by: Lord Viziam
Originally by: RougeOperator
So all the sudden there is the magical showing of support for CCP.
3 days with no one voicing these ridiculous pro-MT statements.
CCP comes into the office and all of a sudden you have 20 people with no corp or avatar posting distracting black-intel and propaganda.
Or.. maybe the grownups with a little sense didn't bother getting into the screaming matches with little pukes spewing temper tantrums all over the forum. Nah, that can't be it!
Sums it up. There have been some good points raised about a potential threat of MT, but they've been swamped by a load of poorly reasoned and generally bad posts. As a non-CCP player, I've got no interest in joining in a screaming paranoid match, were any counter claims makes that poster a fanboy, a CCP alt or a PR Firm.
Only CCP has been poor in their handling and wording. You obviously haven't actually read the protesters arguments. Cause you cant post what you did with a clear conscious if you had.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Dan Wilkie
Originally by: RougeOperator So you must not have read any of the leaked stuff then. And the lies that were exposed and how they look at the players that pay their wages.
Yeah I read it, I just chose not really care. I don't care in the slightest about the politics or policies of the company behind the game. To me, it's just that, a game I pay to play. If things actually change in a direction I find makes the game untenable for me then I'll quit and go play something else, or get a hobby or something.
The rumours that that might happen based on a leaked internal document are not enough to bother me. And to be honest, even if everything prophesied did become true, none of it really ruins the game for me.
Sure, someone will have a navy issue golden megathron with Tech 8 railguns. That doesn't really affect me. If needs be, I'll change my play style and explore a differenet path (hell, I've done that a lot too). And if I can't find one that works, I'll leave then. It's not the end of the world.
On a side note though, when your subscription expires, can I have your stuff since I'll be the only person left by the sounds of things?
If you dont care then stop posting. You Opted yourself out of the discussion on that comment alone. Meanwhile those of us that do care will try to affect a positive outcome rather then let the game die cause we just stood by apathetically like yourself.
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Molokhe
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: Zindela I was ****ed at first, but after I logically walked myself through what's been going on, and came to my own conclusions, I decided that most of the vocal people on the forums needed to shut up.
Thankfully, there's been some lull in the blind mob-mentality raging, and the rational, reasonable people have been able to post without getting utterly drowned out in the chaos that these boards have been for the last few days.
But of course, this post means nothing to most people, and I must be a recent PR plant, despite the appx. 2 years I have been moderately active on the forums. Good foresight by CCP, eh?
CCP apologist or alt?
Paranoid much?
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catinboots
Minmatar Vintage heavy industries
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:26:00 -
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to the OP who is obvious not enlightend enough to understand the real world economics
MT is here to stay if you like it or not and as long it is optional and doesn't give a unfair advantage i don't mind
And that leaked letter , obvious you never worked in a marketing department At my previous employer we used to discuss marketing strategies similair with 2 extreme views on how to continue and discussed it from there on till we found a balanced solution, i think the english term is playing the devils advocate
All this rambling and childish behaviour is getting out of hand ________________________________________ Minmatar are like jedi knights, we use ductape as our force, it has a darkside and a sticky side
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Issona
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: Issona People really need to move on from this, we got what we wanted with the confirmation of no "golden ammo" so just leave it at that.
If you really cant handle it anymore then go play something else?
less talk, more walk....
HI sheeple, whats it like being a mindless cow?
Also if you read that as anything other then a carefully worded dodge then you are a fool. It doesnt actually say or promise anything. Or offer anything substantial.
Mindless cow? nice.. you make the conclusion why? because i happen to enjoy incarna and dont give 2 ****s about vanity items? has it effected my game in anyway shape or form? no it hasnt. will it in the future? possible but that was allways the case aqnyway, and recent events havnt changed anything.
if you just stoped *****ing on here and actually played the game you would see that its actually the same game it was before the expansion
go troll elsewhere
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator Only CCP has been poor in their handling and wording. You obviously haven't actually read the protesters arguments. Cause you cant post what you did with a clear conscious if you had.
They're poor in their handling in wording maybe because they've never had to be THIS careful about such things before. I'm just making a guess that maybe they have no idea how to deal with the player base seeming this unreasonable. Y'know, just an idea. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread. |
Dan Wilkie
Gallente Universal Freelance
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator If you dont care then stop posting. You Opted yourself out of the discussion on that comment alone. Meanwhile those of us that do care will try to affect a positive outcome rather then let the game die cause we just stood by apathetically like yourself.
See now you're starting to sound a little hypocritical. I stated I didn't care about RMT, perhaps it's a poor choice of words. To clarify I do not feel that it is going to ruin the game and bring about the end of the world. So I hold a conflciting view to you. I'm not standing by apathetically, I consider this to be a positive outcome.
So essentially, you're stating any viewpoint to your own is wrong, because this is your game and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong.
Does this mean I can't have your stuff?
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Molokhe
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: Molokhe
Originally by: Lord Viziam
Originally by: RougeOperator
So all the sudden there is the magical showing of support for CCP.
3 days with no one voicing these ridiculous pro-MT statements.
CCP comes into the office and all of a sudden you have 20 people with no corp or avatar posting distracting black-intel and propaganda.
Or.. maybe the grownups with a little sense didn't bother getting into the screaming matches with little pukes spewing temper tantrums all over the forum. Nah, that can't be it!
Sums it up. There have been some good points raised about a potential threat of MT, but they've been swamped by a load of poorly reasoned and generally bad posts. As a non-CCP player, I've got no interest in joining in a screaming paranoid match, were any counter claims makes that poster a fanboy, a CCP alt or a PR Firm.
Only CCP has been poor in their handling and wording. You obviously haven't actually read the protesters arguments. Cause you cant post what you did with a clear conscious if you had.
I have, and my conscious is clear.
As I said, there's been some good points raised. But there's also been a lot of paranoid drivel.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Alejan Gerakh Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 27/06/2011 08:31:04
Originally by: RougeOperator Only CCP has been poor in their handling and wording. You obviously haven't actually read the protesters arguments. Cause you cant post what you did with a clear conscious if you had.
They're poor in their handling in wording maybe because they've never had to be THIS careful about such things before. I'm just making a guess that maybe they have no idea how to deal with the player base seeming this unreasonable. Y'know, just an idea.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." (I'm just going to keep repeating the Kay quote, in all likelihood)
As usual, my disclaimer about being with you, but not really, and may ragequit with you if the CSM thing goes poorly.
Unreasonable. We stated for YEARS that we didnt want this. YEARS.
Its not the players being unreasonable.
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dan Wilkie
Originally by: RougeOperator If you dont care then stop posting. You Opted yourself out of the discussion on that comment alone. Meanwhile those of us that do care will try to affect a positive outcome rather then let the game die cause we just stood by apathetically like yourself.
See now you're starting to sound a little hypocritical. I stated I didn't care about RMT, perhaps it's a poor choice of words. To clarify I do not feel that it is going to ruin the game and bring about the end of the world. So I hold a conflciting view to you. I'm not standing by apathetically, I consider this to be a positive outcome.
So essentially, you're stating any viewpoint to your own is wrong, because this is your game and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong.
Does this mean I can't have your stuff?
Wait... You bring up a good point... where have I heard that mentality before...
"They aren't real Americans!" ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread. |
Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: Alejan Gerakh Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 27/06/2011 08:31:04
Originally by: RougeOperator Only CCP has been poor in their handling and wording. You obviously haven't actually read the protesters arguments. Cause you cant post what you did with a clear conscious if you had.
They're poor in their handling in wording maybe because they've never had to be THIS careful about such things before. I'm just making a guess that maybe they have no idea how to deal with the player base seeming this unreasonable. Y'know, just an idea.
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." (I'm just going to keep repeating the Kay quote, in all likelihood)
As usual, my disclaimer about being with you, but not really, and may ragequit with you if the CSM thing goes poorly.
Unreasonable. We stated for YEARS that we didnt want this. YEARS.
Its not the players being unreasonable.
I said SEEMING. Maybe from our view, yes. But from them? Perhaps you might as well look like a horde of howler monkeys with poo in hand. Just something to think about. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread. |
XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:39:00 -
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Baiters, counter trolls, and mostly just people who have by and large had little contact with people interrupting their high sec addiction.
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Dan Wilkie
Gallente Universal Freelance
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Posted - 2011.06.27 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: XIRUSPHERE Baiters, counter trolls, and mostly just people who have by and large had little contact with people interrupting their high sec addiction.
/facepalm - that's all I have to say really. Now I remember why I don't visit the forums much, it makes /b look reasonable and balanced.
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