Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
voiddragon
|
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:06:00 -
[1]
Edited by: voiddragon on 22/06/2011 23:07:27 I have an ATI Radeon HD 5500 and a quad core running at 4Ghz processor, I logged into incarna and there was a significant FPS drop alongside rather high temperture readings on my hardware, see here.
Never had temperture readings or FPS lag this bad on even a game like Crysis, so I'm wondering if my GPU is simply not up to scratch since it's rather weak compared to the rest of my PC.
I have updated all my drivers, fyi.
|
Herping yourDerp
|
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:12:00 -
[2]
uh nope like 70% of the eve community you cannot run incarna at 60fps
|
voiddragon
|
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:14:00 -
[3]
The problem isn't running it at 60 FPS, it's just that the camera stutters about as the FPS modulates as you look at different things and never peaks above 30 FPS.
|
jowming
|
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:17:00 -
[4]
should be able to run it just fine i get 60 frames and my cpu is a e2180 a crappy cpu but somehow allows me to get good fps in games and i run a gtx 260 so unless your system is somehow crappier then my system i think you will be just fine
|
voiddragon
|
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:21:00 -
[5]
Edited by: voiddragon on 22/06/2011 23:26:26
Originally by: jowming should be able to run it just fine i get 60 frames and my cpu is a e2180 a crappy cpu but somehow allows me to get good fps in games and i run a gtx 260 so unless your system is somehow crappier then my system i think you will be just fine
It must be a graphics card issue then. The rest of my hardware doesn't appear to be having problems other than the CPU running a little hotter than usual.
Edit: Should note that I am slightly disappointed. It was a cheap graphics card, but I never really seen the point in buying a ú300 nvidia card when i could run Crysis with this ú50 one. which isa saying a lot since the rest of the PC was close to ú1000. Oh well, guess I'll join the rest of the mob. *turns station environment off*
|
Cathleia
|
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:28:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Cathleia on 22/06/2011 23:31:09 The HD5500 series isn't exactly a gaming card as it's more a general/HD multimedia card. It'll run most games, but you'd need to adjust your settings.
So yes, it'd be the GPU not being able to do its task properly.
edit: using crysis 1 as a setting point (or however you call it) when you bought that card was a sweet mistake. Crysis 1 on high settings might have taken some serious performance in the nvidia 8000/9000 generation, but it barely broke my GTX285 on high.
|
Khira Kitamatsu
|
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:30:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Herping yourDerp uh nope like 70% of the eve community you cannot run incarna at 60fps
Yes..pull some percentage right out of thin air...magical rainbow pony numbers ftw!
|
Herping yourDerp
|
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:35:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Originally by: Herping yourDerp uh nope like 70% of the eve community you cannot run incarna at 60fps
Yes..pull some percentage right out of thin air...magical rainbow pony numbers ftw!
really cause the standard laptop/desktop cannot run incarna, i doubt most people custom build computers, so that leaves Retail i havent seen a retail laptop/desktop that can run incarna other then those that are over 2,000.
|
OMGWTFResearch
|
Posted - 2011.06.23 04:24:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Originally by: Herping yourDerp uh nope like 70% of the eve community you cannot run incarna at 60fps
Yes..pull some percentage right out of thin air...magical rainbow pony numbers ftw!
really cause the standard laptop/desktop cannot run incarna, i doubt most people custom build computers, so that leaves Retail i havent seen a retail laptop/desktop that can run incarna other then those that are over 2,000.
An AMD E-350 Will likely run EVE just fine.
|
Zer4tul
|
Posted - 2011.07.25 22:15:00 -
[10]
I got a AMD Athlon Dualcore X2 with 2x 3GHz - 8 GB of RAM - NVIDIA Geforce GTX 260
Eve is only running without "laggs" when im on station or warping - when i'm in fight it laggs all 4 seconds or so and i cannot get it fixed .... I tried different drivers - tried to set all settings to "low" ... no effect ... which is very annoying! May it be that my CPU is too slow ? - i first thought about the graphic-card but there are many ppl who use the same card and still got a stable game-experience ... One of my friends also got a dualcore with just 2,x GHz - less RAM - graphic-card i don't know ... and it's not lagging on his system ... anyone knows what it might be?
|
|
Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
|
Posted - 2011.07.25 22:20:00 -
[11]
People still load station environments?
lol, jk its still a system melting resource-***** when disabled.
:progress:
|
Narisa Bithon
Caldari The Motley Crew Reborn
|
Posted - 2011.07.25 22:35:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Zer4tul I got a AMD Athlon Dualcore X2 with 2x 3GHz - 8 GB of RAM - NVIDIA Geforce GTX 260
Eve is only running without "laggs" when im on station or warping - when i'm in fight it laggs all 4 seconds or so and i cannot get it fixed .... I tried different drivers - tried to set all settings to "low" ... no effect ... which is very annoying! May it be that my CPU is too slow ? - i first thought about the graphic-card but there are many ppl who use the same card and still got a stable game-experience ... One of my friends also got a dualcore with just 2,x GHz - less RAM - graphic-card i don't know ... and it's not lagging on his system ... anyone knows what it might be?
if using vista OR windows 7 turn OFF aero..... that helps alot cos aero is a worthless graphics card memory hog
|
Booby Trap
|
Posted - 2011.07.25 22:39:00 -
[13]
Edited by: Booby Trap on 25/07/2011 22:42:21
Originally by: voiddragon Edited by: voiddragon on 22/06/2011 23:07:27 I have an ATI Radeon HD 5500 and a quad core running at 4Ghz processor, I logged into incarna and there was a significant FPS drop alongside rather high temperture readings on my hardware, see here.
Never had temperture readings or FPS lag this bad on even a game like Crysis, so I'm wondering if my GPU is simply not up to scratch since it's rather weak compared to the rest of my PC.
I have updated all my drivers, fyi.
This is a known issue that came with the Incarna expansion.
Linkage. Follow the intructions there and help CCP fix it.
In the meantime you could 'disable station enviroment' in the Esc menu which turns it off completely. |
Elisa Vilerum
|
Posted - 2011.07.25 22:48:00 -
[14]
This is my notebook it cant push 2 acc anymore with decent settings while CQ is on, and even with CQ off it will shut it self down due to high temp(i have ~60fps on both acc in space)but i don't have custom cooler with ice from north pole.
before CQ fluke i could run 3 acc all high now i cant do 2 mid settings other games run fine.
------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 7/25/2011, 17:31:27 Machine name: N/A-HP-I7 Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110408-1631) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard System Model: HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~1.6GHz Memory: 4096MB RAM Available OS Memory: 4030MB RAM Page File: 1714MB used, 6342MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: Using System DPI System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode
------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ Display Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found.
-------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- Direct3D: 0/4 (retail) DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail) DirectInput: 0/5 (retail) DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail) DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail) DirectSound: 0/5 (retail) DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
--------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x68C1) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_1449103C&REV_00 Display Memory: 2773 MB Dedicated Memory: 1014 MB Shared Memory: 1758 MB Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor Monitor Model: unknown Monitor Id: LGD027A Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (60.080Hz) Output Type: Internal Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1043 (English) Driver Version: 8.771.1.0 DDI Version: 11 Driver Model: WDDM 1.1 Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 3/5/2011 20:48:07, 616960 bytes WHQL Logo'd: n/a WHQL Date Stamp: n/a Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2B81-11CF-9F77-4334BEC2C535} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x68C1 SubSys ID: 0x1449103C Revision ID: 0x0000 Driver Strong Name: oem18.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_Manhattan:8.771.1.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_68c1&subsys_1449103c Rank Of Driver: 00E60001 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A
|
Worstluck
Dead Pilots Society Chaos Theory Alliance
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 00:26:00 -
[15]
Originally by: voiddragon Edited by: voiddragon on 22/06/2011 23:26:26
Originally by: jowming should be able to run it just fine i get 60 frames and my cpu is a e2180 a crappy cpu but somehow allows me to get good fps in games and i run a gtx 260 so unless your system is somehow crappier then my system i think you will be just fine
It must be a graphics card issue then. The rest of my hardware doesn't appear to be having problems other than the CPU running a little hotter than usual.
Edit: Should note that I am slightly disappointed. It was a cheap graphics card, but I never really seen the point in buying a ú300 nvidia card when i could run Crysis with this ú50 one. which isa saying a lot since the rest of the PC was close to ú1000. Oh well, guess I'll join the rest of the mob. *turns station environment off*
You spent 1000 bucks on the rest of the system, why skimp on the graphics card? I would imagine that you would get subpar FPS tbh with that card. You can't compare other games really.
I have got a phenom x4 955 and a ati 5830 (which I got for $99) that runs the game in CQ at around 60fps on max settings. You are doing something wrong good sir.
|
Envoy Achates
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 00:32:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu
Originally by: Herping yourDerp uh nope like 70% of the eve community you cannot run incarna at 60fps
Yes..pull some percentage right out of thin air...magical rainbow pony numbers ftw!
really cause the standard laptop/desktop cannot run incarna, i doubt most people custom build computers, so that leaves Retail i havent seen a retail laptop/desktop that can run incarna other then those that are over 2,000.
ha, nice - refuting the claim that you're making up stats by backing it up with made up anecdotal evidence?
priceless. with data like this, who can doubt you?
|
Bloutok
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 01:23:00 -
[17]
I have a dell with the Bloomfield I7 core. an Ati 5770 video card and i use core temp to monitor the cpu. I get the same kind of stats you get. Enough said.
Note that upon doing some research on the net about that CPU, 50 degrees is not that hot, mine idles at about 44.
What bugs me is that i would run 2 EVE on low settings and the fans would N E V E R switch gear, now it/they ( i do not know what the video card is doing ) spin faster when i run one. Not talking about CQ, i mean outside, in space.
I have had this comp for a year and i dusted the inside twice with a compressed air can spray thingy.
Thus, i say, the last patch is doing something really wrong
P.S. my Tengu is flying backward.......
|
Not-Apsalar
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 02:46:00 -
[18]
I have a similar rig with a gddr5 5770 that I've been very happy with. Cheap and a good deal more powerful than a 5500. no heat problems and no real frame rate problems.
|
Digital Messiah
Gallente Oregami Ultd
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 03:20:00 -
[19]
I just built my brothers computer. 6870, amd phenom II x4 925, 8 gigs 1600 ddr3 in double channel, 890fx mobo, 6 gb/s HD, and it gets really warm running Captains quarters. While my 9800 GTX, dual core 2.6 ghz processor, old KN3 SLI2 "NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI", and 4 gigs dd2, run it flawlessly. Only conclusion is that Nvidia is the intended brand for use. Or something really funky is going on with their code. Memory dumps or something?
It looks like they are slowly improving the performance though. And I am eating lasagna atm, so yeah it's good.
Quote: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
|
Wreckar
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 04:13:00 -
[20]
I've never bought an AMD product since a 386dx40 years ago and never will again. Haven't bought an ATI product since a Rage128. Since ATI was aquired by AMD it's made it simple. Stay the hell away.
Running two clients at the moment on an Nvidia 9600gt on an old Intel 2.8ghz E7400. No overheating problems, a little laggy with both in CQ at the same time but still perfectly playable. That's like three year old tech. Just ordered my 2500k and 560ti, upgrade time. Funny how the AMD option is so much cheaper, you get what you pay for.
|
|
Lost Flower
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 04:20:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Elisa Vilerum This is my notebook it cant push 2 acc anymore with decent settings while CQ is on, and even with CQ off it will shut it self down due to high temp(i have ~60fps on both acc in space)but i don't have custom cooler with ice from north pole.
before CQ fluke i could run 3 acc all high now i cant do 2 mid settings other games run fine.
yeah me too, bought a zalman laptop cooler.. now it works ;)
|
Yoa Loother
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 07:49:00 -
[22]
Originally by: voiddragon I'm wondering if my GPU is simply not up to scratch since it's rather weak compared to the rest of my PC.
I have updated all my drivers, fyi.
No, this Incarna client is simply sh!t. An unoptimized piece of pre-beta coding that has no business being out live.
Either put up with the door or cancel and come back(if at all) in half a year, when they manage to code something approaching post beta. And maybe with actual content. |
Arielle Devereux
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 09:11:00 -
[23]
Edited by: Arielle Devereux on 26/07/2011 09:16:58 Edited by: Arielle Devereux on 26/07/2011 09:15:49
Originally by: voiddragon Edited by: voiddragon on 22/06/2011 23:26:26 It must be a graphics card issue then. The rest of my hardware doesn't appear to be having problems other than the CPU running a little hotter than usual.
Edit: Should note that I am slightly disappointed. It was a cheap graphics card, but I never really seen the point in buying a ú300 nvidia card when i could run Crysis with this ú50 one. which isa saying a lot since the rest of the PC was close to ú1000. Oh well, guess I'll join the rest of the mob. *turns station environment off*
While people here are very fast putting the blame on CCP (so terrible of them to try and update this game's graphics to current standards!), thus (probably intentionally) misleading other users that have actual problems that come way before Incarna, there's a lot to say about this.
To put it down simply, your rig is a bit of a mess.
Crysis isn't a good benchmark anymore. While it pushed PCs to the limit (at top detail) when it was released, it's now a two years old game.
Your video card is indeed the weak link of your system. It's severely underpowered especially compared to your processor, creating a bottleneck of epic proportions for gaming. You basically got one of the best processors of the current generation and gimped it with a low-end video card.
Mind you, spending 300 pounds isn't even necessary. Just by getting a 1 GB Geforce GTX 460 (since you live in the UK i'd advise for a Gainward. VERY good quality and runs very cool thanks to one of the best stock coolers on the market), that runs for about 150 pounds or less, you'll juice your system much better. Of course you'll have to make sure that your Power Source is up to snuff (at the very least a 550 W, with that processor, I'd say).
With a processor that's significantly les performing than yours (non overclocked AMD Athlon X4 965 BE) and said GTX 460 I easily get stable 50 fps in CQ, without alarming temperature spikes. Top graphics detail.
Talking about temperatures, I'm not one bit surprised that your processor runs that hot. You overclocked a 2.8 ghz chip to 4 ghz. That's a tad extreme, especially for a CPU that really doesn't need it, even more if bottlenecked by a gimp video card. You can afford lowering that overclock by quite a lot (mind you, you don't really need it at all with an i7), and it'll run quite a lot cooler and will last you longer. |
Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 09:14:00 -
[24]
Crap, wrong character in the above post. Oh well... |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 09:56:00 -
[25]
Stop overclocking your freaking processors, people. I have a crappy i5 760 (quad [email protected], no HT) and a 1GB GTX 460 (factory-overclocked approx. +5%), and for EVE (1600x1024, max detail), the video card is the clear bottleneck, NOT the processor. Heck, even at minimum graphic detail, the processor JUST BARELY becomes the bottleneck, and that's because I have manually disabled TurboBoost (so no core ever goes above the stock 2.8GHz).
|
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 09:58:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Telvani People still load station environments?
|
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 10:08:00 -
[27]
Edited by: Akita T on 26/07/2011 10:14:22
Also, what the bloody hell is a "ATI Radeon HD 5500" ?!?
There's only Radeon HD 5450 through Radeon HD 5970 (Radeon HD 5870 being the last "single chip" in the lineup), and the performance difference between them is staggering - the 5970 is roughly one order of magnitude faster than the 5450 (theoretical GFLOPs 4640 vs 104, passmark rating 2606 vs 313), while the 5870 is no slouch either (theoretical GFLOPS 2720, passmark 2719). For reference's sake, a stock GTX 460 has a theoretical GFLOPS of 907 (NVIDIA works with less but more complicated math units at higher frequency, raw GFLOPS is never to be compared directly between ATI and NVIDIA as indicator of gaming FPS - if anything, you'd need to multiply by at least two if not three, so let's call that around 1800-2700) and a passmark rating of 2356.
P.S. I get 40-75 FPS in Incarna with my GTX 460 (monitor refresh rate is 85, not 60).
P.P.S. I still disable the station environment. |
caldar ian
Final Destination.
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 10:09:00 -
[28]
Turn CQ off
on patch night I had a motherboard and cpu burn out while playing incarna ( regardless of what the techy geeks say)
Turn station environment off and leave it off it serves no purpose, less stress on your system. |
Abriael VonRosen
Caldari
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 10:14:00 -
[29]
Originally by: caldar ian Turn CQ off
on patch night I had a motherboard and cpu burn out while playing incarna ( regardless of what the techy geeks say)
Turn station environment off and leave it off it serves no purpose, less stress on your system.
You may definitely want to check your case ventilation. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
|
Posted - 2011.07.26 10:19:00 -
[30]
Edited by: Akita T on 26/07/2011 10:19:25
Well, yeah, he might want to check case ventilation, and he might also want to clean his CPU/GPU fans and stuff, but that doesn't change the fact that Incarna uses an inordinate amount of GPU power which forces your video card (except the top tier ones, of course) to work near-100% usage (and quite a lot of CPU usage too) even with "interval one"... at least compared to "what you're getting", visually speaking. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |