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Ioci Gallente Space Mermaids	Posted - 2011.06.17 03:53:00 - [781] You know what would be cool? If I could just drop 500 Aurum and suddenly your titan just explodes.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.17 04:05:00 - [782] Edited by: Tres Farmer on 17/06/2011 04:07:26 Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab snip Originally by: T Farmer So you say the AUR shop can't sell special paintjob rigs that would fit into paintjob rig slots and the supplementing code of that couldn't be taken pretty straight forward from the rigs? He might be an armchair programmer, but you're a smart-ass. Yes, I'm saying exactly that and you non-programmers need to stop making assumptions about what is and isn't trivial cause you're more often than not completely wrong. Who says I'm not a programmer? Or the other guy? We might not know the code or workflow CCP is employing there, but besides that.. Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Just adding a paintjob rig slot? Those rig slots aren't propagated to other players when you enter a grid, so how do they know which skins to use? When your ship enters a grid with other ships connected to it, the additional statuses of the rigs are being known by the space simulation, as otherwise the rigs wouldn't work. It's not magic to have these information upon entering the grid propagated to other players for the paintinformation, when there is no lag. Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Changing the messaging protocol, adding extra code, QA, debugging, and many many programmer man-hours spent. (would however be slightly easier thanks to T3 having been done) And you know that, because you work at CCP as Lead Programmer, or what? Grab your own nose there, Mr I-know-why-it-wont-work. Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Also you'd need to fix the ship (item) viewer, hangar view, fitting view and so on to make sure the extra parameter is passed on. Basically it would be a _LOT_ of work for something that is much easier to do with just a new item type id. Yeah, it's easier now to create a static ship with a static paintjob. But the same could be said for how pos work now or how anything else ingame works. If CCP thinks they don't need this implemented correctly (read: the hard and clean way) so that they have it easier down the road.. their bad. Might also be, why we don't have realtime balancingV .. CCP probably doesn't have a bunch of tables with all the values in there, no. They'll have cut corners as you describe it. Every ship has it's own little live in the code and maintaining that is a mess. Thus we never get the balancing in small steps nor within a short amount of time. Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab And last of all; how would you add item description to the Ishukur Watch Scorpion? Ooops... now you need even _MORE_ code work as the paint job rigs would need to change item descriptions and such. Basically you guys are backseat-programmers. You're too. We say this might work and you tell us, it won't work because of that and that. You're not different to us, look in the mirror Mr. Backseat-programmer. Also, why would every friggin paintjob need a new name for the ship type? That's ridiculous. That's exactly the kind of **** that will give us a Themepark instead of a sandbox. There are all kinds of Cars out there on the road and all have different colours and wheels and advertisement on them. Even from the exact same type. But their still called Golf IV or Holden Commodore or Dodge Viper or Toyota Corolla. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
UGWidowmaker Caldari freelancers inc -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.17 05:37:00 - [783] buying ships for plex aro wtf its called stupid and lame idea.. u could do it so u just buy the new texture for the ship u bring.. like people could pay for a paintjob. but a ship ??? nooooooo OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned. {yellow]Signature which is prompting a login has been removed. Navigator[/yellow]
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.17 05:48:00 - [784] Originally by: Tres Farmer If CCP thinks they don't need this implemented correctly (read: the hard and clean way) so that they have it easier down the road.. their bad. Like everything else they've done in the last 2 years.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.06.17 05:51:00 - [785] Edited by: Rakshasa Taisab on 17/06/2011 05:51:45 Originally by: Tres Farmer When your ship enters a grid with other ships connected to it, the additional statuses of the rigs are being known by the space simulation, as otherwise the rigs wouldn't work. It's not magic to have these information upon entering the grid propagated to other players for the paintinformation, when there is no lag. It is known by the server-side simulation, it is however not known by the clients observing the ships (as that would lead to the possibility of cheating. And no, it's not magic, nor impossible to do and as I pointed out they do something similar for T3. HOWEVER, what I _DID_ say was that it would require programmer and QA resources that they seem to have in rather short supply, and adding or making changes to the messaging protocol to include that information, and all the other places where the paintjob rig information would need to be propagated is not trivial. (And you can't really send it lazily as you suggest above, unless you want ships to suddenly change color after warping in) Originally by: Tres Farmer And you know that, because you work at CCP as Lead Programmer, or what? Grab your own nose there, Mr I-know-why-it-wont-work. No, I don't work at CCP... However if you actually did know programming and paid any attention to what CCP has released of information you would also be able to make figure out roughly what kind of work would be required. Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Also you'd need to fix the ship (item) viewer, hangar view, fitting view and so on to make sure the extra parameter is passed on. Basically it would be a _LOT_ of work for something that is much easier to do with just a new item type id. Yeah, it's easier now to create a static ship with a static paintjob. But the same could be said for how pos work now or how anything else ingame works. If CCP thinks they don't need this implemented correctly (read: the hard and clean way) so that they have it easier down the road.. their bad. Might also be, why we don't have realtime balancingV .. CCP probably doesn't have a bunch of tables with all the values in there, no. They'll have cut corners as you describe it. Every ship has it's own little live in the code and maintaining that is a mess. Thus we never get the balancing in small steps nor within a short amount of time. And who are you to judge that separate item type id's for each branded type is the wrong solution? (And the pos comparison makes no sense) While the item data is static, it does not necessarily mean it isn't dynamically created. So there's no problem with updating the master scorpion values when balancing, and all the vanity-scorpions would be automagically updated, and we already know that changing values, e.g. balancing, _IS_ just a matter of changing values in a table. However changing the value, as they've said so many times, is the easy part. Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab And last of all; how would you add item description to the Ishukur Watch Scorpion? Ooops... now you need even _MORE_ code work as the paint job rigs would need to change item descriptions and such. Basically you guys are backseat-programmers. You're too. We say this might work and you tell us, it won't work because of that and that. You're not different to us, look in the mirror Mr. Backseat-programmer. Also, why would every friggin paintjob need a new name for the ship type? They need new names / descriptions because they are faction branded ships, and one of the features CCP promised was the ability to make your own description. So the paintjob rig solution wouldn't just require more programming, it would also lack features. And I should again, for the sake of hammering in the fact, that I never said it was impossible. Rather I pointed out that it would require more effort and special-case code. I don't sit in a back seat, I drive my own allegory car.
Tess Ataru	Posted - 2011.06.17 06:56:00 - [786] I heard CCP will soon offer Tech II BPOs for ca$h, aswell as $killpoints and Capital$hips. Lol this thread is full of nerdrage over nothing. Microtransactions will happen and there nothing you can do about it, CCP just goes with the time.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.17 16:11:00 - [787] I aint too fussed to be honest... although I AM expecting pay zz for a skill training speed buff at some point
Cailais Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.06.17 16:43:00 - [788] Originally by: CCP Zinfandel EVE players need to be in control of the EVE economy as much as possible. That's not just a marketing claim, that's what we really believe. Would you do us all a common courtesy and not lie blatantly and directly to our faces please? It's insulting. C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
GavinCapacitor	Posted - 2011.06.17 16:53:00 - [789] Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 15/06/2011 07:17:26 Originally by: Rex Liberium stuff Now I know why I didn't waste my time voting. Even if they were all for mt they are supposed to represent the players as a whole..and I think it is clear what the players want. What's worse is that one of the csm didn't even want to read the thread. He needs to get booted tbh. >don't vote for csm >complain about csm >say "glad I'M not responsible for the situation, because I didn't vote" herp-a-derp.
Alundil Gallente Galactic Salvage Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.18 16:10:00 - [790] Aurum, in it's own right is a bad idea for a number of reasons. Creating ships/mods with poof!! magic.....I mean aurum is an even worse idea. This is Internet Spaceships. Not Magic Manufacturing.

Gwenywell Shumuku	Posted - 2011.06.18 16:33:00 - [791] Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 18/06/2011 16:34:15 They are milking the cow now, so if magic manufacturing brings them more money, they will do it. Thats the point, and i think all the rage is not really about MT (you can like or hate it), but its about spoonfeeding us this stuff as if we were fools. They want to make EVE full MT? fine...they should just say so and go on with it. But this crap like "every 2 weeks a new 180& turn" is just pathetic
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.06.18 18:58:00 - [792] Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 18/06/2011 16:34:15 They are milking the cow now, so if magic manufacturing brings them more money, they will do it. Thats the point, and i think all the rage is not really about MT (you can like or hate it), but its about spoonfeeding us this stuff as if we were fools. They want to make EVE full MT? fine...they should just say so and go on with it. But this crap like "every 2 weeks a new 180& turn" is just pathetic I think it's obvious that's exactly what they're going to do. The have the mechanism to make this a f2p game now. So, if vanity items don't support that model then rest assured that p2w will be the next model.
adriaans Amarr Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak	Posted - 2011.06.18 19:41:00 - [793] Give ship + Aurum -> recieve painted ship back = Fine. Magically spawning a ship from just Aurum = NO **** WAY!! I have invested 6 years in this game, but if you start magically spawning items I see little reason to remain...** --signature-- My latest pvp video: Link
Khamal Jolstien Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.18 20:41:00 - [794] Originally by: GavinCapacitor Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 15/06/2011 07:17:26 Originally by: Rex Liberium stuff Now I know why I didn't waste my time voting. Even if they were all for mt they are supposed to represent the players as a whole..and I think it is clear what the players want. What's worse is that one of the csm didn't even want to read the thread. He needs to get booted tbh. >don't vote for csm >complain about csm >say "glad I'M not responsible for the situation, because I didn't vote" herp-a-derp. The CSM has been used to justify bad decisions. I'm willing to bet he would have voted to "disband CSM" if given the option. I know I would. Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
Dielax Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.18 21:03:00 - [795] Doing a cash shop on a subscription based game is just greedy. Anything, and I mean ANYTHING other than cosmetic type stuff is just stupid. __________________ EVE is LIFE
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.06.18 21:12:00 - [796] Nothing like a thread full of people willing to voice their opinions on matters they not only don't understand, but don't even realize is no longer being done. The EVE community at it's finest. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.06.18 21:29:00 - [797] Originally by: Ranger 1 Nothing like a thread full of people willing to voice their opinions on matters they not only don't understand, but don't even realize is no longer being done. We're just getting ready for the next broken assurances, the next overhyped bug fix, I mean feature - The next nail.
Gwenywell Shumuku	Posted - 2011.06.18 21:31:00 - [798] Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 18/06/2011 21:34:49 Originally by: Ranger 1 Nothing like a thread full of people willing to voice their opinions on matters they not only don't understand, but don't even realize is no longer being done. The EVE community at it's finest. Pff, your arrogance says much about you. PPl are voicing their concern BECAUSE THEY KNOW what MT is, they have seen it in other games time and time again, have experienced it, have seen the games going downhill fast, pay to win is ALWAYS coming sooner or later, its the nature of the beast (you have to feed it to keep the revenue comming, as the market saturates itself with MT-items). Yes, alot of gamers here are oldschool, have seen the "good times" and are ****ed about where this crap is going. EVE is an oldschool game, it did grow for 7+ years, and now thats not good enough anymore...because its stagnating (going up and down) in subscriptions, ONLY BECAUSE CCP stopped developing for it properly, so self inflicted injury. Noone whould have cared if WoD or whatever did become a full MT game. But turning EVE into this after 8 years is just...cruel to a franchise that had its niche and was good at it. And then the devs treating us as if we didn't know were this MT-road leads, and every 2 weeks they present exactly that idea that was previously ruled out as "only vanity"...yea right. Informed ppl are not willing to trust CCP on this anymore, sry, too much confusion, backpadeling, broken promises and blatant lies.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.06.19 00:21:00 - [799] Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku Yes, alot of gamers here are oldschool, have seen the "good times" and are **ed about where this crap is going. EVE is an oldschool game, it did grow for 7+ years, and now thats not good enough anymore...because its stagnating (going up and down) in subscriptions, ONLY BECAUSE CCP stopped developing for it properly, so self inflicted injury. Okie dokie. First off, cite your sources - if Eve suscriptions are wavering, lets see some reliable numbers. Originally by:** Gwenywell Shumuku Noone whould have cared if WoD or whatever did become a full MT game. But turning EVE into this after 8 years is just...cruel to a franchise that had its niche and was good at it. There are two implications here - 1) that you dont have an objection to MT, you only have an objection to it in YOUR game. and 2) that the only thing that seperated EVE in your eyes, after playing it for 8 years and being an "oldschool" gamer, is that it lacks MT? Do you really think that all that seperates EvE from WOW is lack of mounts for sale? I certainly hope thats not the only reason you play eve. Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku And then the devs treating us as if we didn't know were this MT-road leads, and every 2 weeks they present exactly that idea that was previously ruled out as "only vanity"...yea right. Informed ppl are not willing to trust CCP on this anymore, sry, too much confusion, backpadeling, broken promises and blatant lies. I don't know about you, but any company out there that I feel specifically targets me with lies, backpedaling, and broken promises, I stop giving my money to. I think its hilarious and sad at the same time to see this very vocal, but still minority of the Eve playerbase call out CCP with a stack of egregious ethics violations but still play the game and pay to do so. If you think CCP is lying, cheating, scamming, profiteering, scalping, gouging, ripping off, or otherwise hurting innocent gamers, and you're posting in this forum, than YOU are to blame. CCP exists cause people like you give them money. Grow a spine people, stop posting as alts, and either offer constructive criticism and help to improve the community, or decide that CCP is corrupt and GTFO so the rest of us can have fun. But calling CCP corrupt and still playing simply means that you endorse such evil.
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb	Posted - 2011.06.19 01:20:00 - [800] Originally by: EightGuns Giovanni Edited by: EightGuns Giovanni on 14/06/2011 13:34:35 Kinda a sad really that you can compare EvE and SWG together now It's entirely fair. SWG made a big change and ****ed off the player base. I see this as no different.

Oregin Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.19 01:57:00 - [801] The long and short of it is... We've had ships for $ since you could buy GTC/PLEX for ISK. Any Aurum purchase can be bought with ISK by buying a plex and breaking it down. The micro-transactions racket has been going a long time in EVE and I don't have a problem with it. The problem will arise when... Any ships/modules/etc get made out of thin air and screw the economy. Anything can be bought which boosts your character/ship with ONLY $$$ and not indirectly with ISK. Other than that, it's all fine. I can buy a GTC and make 2 PLEX to afford a faction fit faction ship. You could say that I'm paying for a leg up with $$$ (or zzz here...) but I'd never fly that into a fleet fight...
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.06.19 06:42:00 - [802] Originally by: CCP Zinfandel For those who missed it before, let's go back over this in better detail. The detail is interesting for many. Team Stonehenge is making the store (Noble Exchange) and is making it in stages. It's fairly simple and straightforward at present but will be getting more sophisticated over time. Right now it can only sell one kind of thing at a time (no bundles) and can only accept one payment at a time (Aurum.) It can't do trade-in's. It can't do BPCs. It can't sell anything that requires a user interface to use. It can't highlight an item on sale (they will look like the non sale items.) It can't sort/filter and only show you one kind of item. But it will get better. Other folks are making cool ship art. Other folks are making clothing, etc. One of the cool ships was the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship which we brought to the CSM. They got to see a little better view of it than just a screen shot posted in a video broadcast and they thought it looked pretty cool. One of them will likely chime in about it or you'll see it in their meeting minutes which I know they are working on. So I presented our dilemma to them. EVE players need to be in control of the EVE economy as much as possible. That's not just a marketing claim, that's what we really believe. And if we sell a battleship in a store, that transgresses this important principle. "Shall I hold this until the store properly supports BPCs or a Scorpion trade-in? Or shall I start selling it now for 3-4 months and then change how we sell it later?" The CSM had one big question: -Is there any difference between the Ishukone Watch Scorpions sold whole and the ones sold in trade in? (The answer is no.) They said yes, you want players in control. You want players buying Scorpions from industrialist players. Absolutely. But in this case this is not likely to hurt the EVE economy because initially people will only buy these ships as a collectible and for fun. This will not affect their purchase of Scorpions for actual fleet warfare. They will still buy as many Scorps - this would just be on extra out of their bling money. So they recommended we go ahead and begin our learning curve and get the fun ship into circulation. Now, behind the scenes, we will be monitoring to make sure that Scorpion sales don't crash and that the economy does not suffer. If it does, we can turn off the availability of the ship in minutes. We'll just point out that the Ishukone Watch only made a limited number of ships to sell to capsuleers and that supply has now run out. If we need to go even slower, we can and will. Highlighted the parts which made me laugh. Christ, CCP, you actually believe your own crap? The CCP we know and hate is so alienated and disconnected from the playerbase that it took Vuk Lau showing them how bad lag was in a frapsed video at one of the CSM sessions before they believed it. The only thing CCP currently monitors are subs (they started doing something about lag because they were losing subs), and once they start making dollah from Dust (which could happen, although I personally hope it is a resounding failure) they'll stop worrying about Eve at all. I got 99 dollah but the game ain't fun
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.06.19 08:44:00 - [803] Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 18/06/2011 21:34:49 Originally by: Ranger 1 Nothing like a thread full of people willing to voice their opinions on matters they not only don't understand, but don't even realize is no longer being done. The EVE community at it's finest. Pff, your arrogance says much about you. PPl are voicing their concern BECAUSE THEY KNOW what MT is, they have seen it in other games time and time again, have experienced it, have seen the games going downhill fast, pay to win is ALWAYS coming sooner or later, its the nature of the beast (you have to feed it to keep the revenue comming, as the market saturates itself with MT-items). Yes, alot of gamers here are oldschool, have seen the "good times" and are ****ed about where this crap is going. EVE is an oldschool game, it did grow for 7+ years, and now thats not good enough anymore...because its stagnating (going up and down) in subscriptions, ONLY BECAUSE CCP stopped developing for it properly, so self inflicted injury. Noone whould have cared if WoD or whatever did become a full MT game. But turning EVE into this after 8 years is just...cruel to a franchise that had its niche and was good at it. And then the devs treating us as if we didn't know were this MT-road leads, and every 2 weeks they present exactly that idea that was previously ruled out as "only vanity"...yea right. Informed ppl are not willing to trust CCP on this anymore, sry, too much confusion, backpadeling, broken promises and blatant lies. I don't think you could have proven my point more eloquently if you had tried. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Amber Accelerando	Posted - 2011.06.19 08:52:00 - [804] Threadnought!!!
Sral TBear Shipwreck cove	Posted - 2011.06.19 09:05:00 - [805] Edited by: Sral TBear on 19/06/2011 09:11:50 Edited by: Sral TBear on 19/06/2011 09:10:52 $ - plex - isk (fair trade) $ - plex - aurum (fair trade) so far im cool with it. Aurum - scorpion - paintjob, well pretty ok for me.. Aurum - paintet scorpion bad bad bad.... Everything have to have a base from the eve market, player createt. You want a new paintjob, you buy the ship and then get it paintet....that is how it should work... I have been monitoring this "monster" since ccp began talking about it, and so far i think they walk on the right side of the line. Most of it is about your char, nothing but bling bling and im ok with that... Now they slowly move on to the ships. As long the base ship comes from the eve market (player createt) they can do what ever they want to do, as long as they keep it to bling bling...any ship with any stats should come from within eve, then you can use the darn aurum to pimp the ride with red, pink and blue.....bling bling is ok from Aurum, and i hope ccp will keep it with that, and i have to say so far i havent seen anything else from them.... Tbear
HairySack Hangin	Posted - 2011.06.19 09:26:00 - [806] Originally by: CCP Zinfandel EVE players need to be in control of the EVE economy as much as possible. That's not just a marketing claim, that's what we really believe. And if we sell a battleship in a store, that transgresses this important principle. If any true ships are ever to be sold through the Noble Store they should not be the standard hulls (just sell paint jobs), but should rather be those which are simply not available at all through the player market: Re: Freki, Utu, State Raven and such vessels as that. Or, if people are going to whine and cry about P2W (which the quasi-uniques are not), simply offer hull retooling to make a Rifter look like a Freki, while retaining all of the Rifter's stats. So you'd see Rifter; Freki Variant on the show-info tab. Another very nice offering might be command module retooling; switching the ship bonuses of one vessel to another of the same hull level (A Punisher's bonuses replacing those on a Rifter hull, for example). THAT would liven up PvP, to be very sure.
Lucilla Giulia	Posted - 2011.06.19 14:24:00 - [807] Edited by: Lucilla Giulia on 19/06/2011 14:26:35 Originally by: HairySack Hangin Another very nice offering might be command module retooling; switching the ship bonuses of one vessel to another of the same hull level (A Punisher's bonuses replacing those on a Rifter hull, for example). THAT would liven up PvP, to be very sure. Terrible idea imo that would liven up pvp for the guys who can afford spending extra real money to pay....BAD if it was just for me (and of course it isn't) i'd totally remove the MT project but, given those are the plans "written in stone" for the future of EVE ,i'd like them to be at least limited to crap that doesn't change the balance of the game. P.S ah no more love to this thread from DEV/GMs?
Josefine Etrange Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.19 15:22:00 - [808] Originally by: Syphon Lodian You can buy ships with money already. But you can not create ships with money. Why a forum in the year 2011 still has no automatic double post merge which can be done even with javascript mostly is beyond my understanding.
Gwenywell Shumuku	Posted - 2011.06.19 16:32:00 - [809] Originally by: Josefine Etrange Originally by: Syphon Lodian You can buy ships with money already. But you can not create ships with money. Not anymore, because we called them out (backpadeling). It was planned, well "just for a few weeks" right? Till they implement the "real deal system". And the CSM even agreed to it... Its that stuff that is showing how far they are willing to go, and it deserves all the noise its getting. @to the 2 guys up there replying to my post, 1. when arguments fail he? 2. learn to read, 3. i did unsub (running till August) as i have more spine you will ever have, so stop taking yourselfe as referece for others, 4. i will always voice my opinion if i think something is wrong, and thats my right, and its what may even will make things better. Just staying silent and taking it up the ass is not my thing, but whatever works for you.
Max Von Sydow	Posted - 2011.06.19 16:44:00 - [810] Edited by: Max Von Sydow on 19/06/2011 16:44:58 I'm more annoyed over this being the way CCP implements new paint jobs. I mean, this is trading in a scorpion and AUR for a golden scorpion, but what about the rattlesnake, navy scorpion and widow pilots out there. It's the same hull so the paint job should work the same for those ships as well. Personally I would prefer it if they sold something like "Battleship Paint Job - Gold" on the market and that it's applicable to all BS sized ships or maybe just "Large Paint Job - Gold" and make it available to all ships BS size and large. This would mean that they would have to make new skins for all ships but tbh that shouldn't be much work since it's mostly changing the hue on some areas on the textures, and once you've done that once you could easily create skins for more colors since you now have those areas in of the textures in layers so they can be modified individually from the rest of the skin. That way the gold parts of the golden texture could be made blue or red in a few minutes with photoshop.



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