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EFFNCOX
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Posted - 2011.06.06 16:51:00 -
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If this is a scam, why is Brock and his corp still part of SRS? Should I put SRS on my list of scam/gank/idiot alliances? It sure sounds like it. If he was hinting at scamming in alliance chat and people inside the alliance were using inside knowledge to sell their shares, then it sounds like most of the alliance was complicit in the scam.
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: EFFNCOX stuff
Yeah, they're all a bunch of your name.
I agree that shooting people with a headache in the head is a good idea, because it will stop their headaches. |
Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Brock Nelson on 06/06/2011 18:36:11
Originally by: EFFNCOX If this is a scam, why is Brock and his corp still part of SRS? Should I put SRS on my list of scam/gank/idiot alliances? It sure sounds like it. If he was hinting at scamming in alliance chat and people inside the alliance were using inside knowledge to sell their shares, then it sounds like most of the alliance was complicit in the scam.
I guess you missed the part where no one in the alliance was sure if I was trollling or not, even barry posted that he wasn't sure either.
Only one person in the alliance had shares and didn't sell it before it went down
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dethmourne Silvermane on 06/06/2011 18:41:37
Originally by: EFFNCOX If this is a scam, why is Brock and his corp still part of SRS? Should I put SRS on my list of scam/gank/idiot alliances? It sure sounds like it. If he was hinting at scamming in alliance chat and people inside the alliance were using inside knowledge to sell their shares, then it sounds like most of the alliance was complicit in the scam.
The actions of one member do not equate to the actions of the entire alliance.
I will note that our alliance leadership is actively engaged in a discussion about what, exactly, our policy on scamming should be - leaning effectively towards "con man" stuff being against the rules (but not necessarily "always bet on stupid" things like Jita navy raven contracts). I trust we'll have hammered out an official alliance policy in the near future, though I doubt it will be retroactive as it was not prohibited at the time Brock executed his (really quite terrible) scam.
EDIT: Also, FWIW, I had shares in this, and didn't sell, and was quite disappointed when I discovered I'd been had.
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Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.06 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sovie Panda on 06/06/2011 18:51:19 Edited by: Sovie Panda on 06/06/2011 18:50:58 It's clear to everyone else if you're rubbing elbows with scammers he's a member of your circle of friends and in your alliance. I was in the scc lounge thing after this happened a couple times and it was amazing how people including members of SRS pretty much encouraging this, t it and p much applauding Brock makeing jokes about it. Your involved, he does represent your alliance even more so considering he's still an active member.
If it wasn't before, yes SRS. should be considered a Goon copycat. But I think that's what it was going for anyway sono bi deal I guess for you.
Dethmorn I guess you fit right in, some sort of failed loan shark back alley troll.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:00:00 -
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Whats with all those unknown alts posting in here thinking that their opiniom matters?
FYI; Deth's been a member of the alliance for almost a month, I doubt he was even aware of my plan or the joking around in the alliance channel prior to joining.
Afaik, only 2 people of SRS actively hang out in scc-loungs and thats barry and deth. I doubt they were joking around.
Next time some unknown alt feels the need to post, please get your bull**** together first and have the ball to post with your main.
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Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sovie Panda on 06/06/2011 19:09:28
Originally by: Brock Nelson Whats with all those unknown alts posting in here thinking that their opiniom matters?
FYI; Deth's been a member of the alliance for almost a month, I doubt he was even aware of my plan or the joking around in the alliance channel prior to joining.
Afaik, only 2 people of SRS actively hang out in scc-loungs and thats barry and deth. I doubt they were joking around.
Next time some unknown alt feels the need to post, please get your bull**** together first and have the ball to post with your main.
ROFL, so some numb nuts washed up goon 'scammer' with 1000 alts is going to talk about having the integrity to post with their main. I don't know what is more pathetic. That it's hard to even call you a scammer and not just a washed up loser who couldn't hack it. Who resorts to calling himself a scammer because he's embarrassed and thinks that's some solid fallback. Or that you have so little in the way of friends that you have to hang around MD afterwards. It's not like you're getting any tears or 'lols' your mainly getting A) disinterest B) flat out embarrassment and uncomfortableness felt by having someone so pathetic linger about.
Enjoy your 20 something 'bills' you ****ing lolcow
r.o.f.l.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:10:00 -
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At least I still post with my main...which is less pathetic than the guy who doesn't
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Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sovie Panda on 06/06/2011 19:14:25
Originally by: Brock Nelson At least I still post with my main...which is less pathetic than the guy who doesn't
Nothing else to say huh. I thought you were a clever 4chan troll? All I get is the played out and tierd "waahh waahh post with main plox". Just STFU go back to SRS. and brag about this masterminded ****up which included such gems as "eeeh I think I'm bored omggz so much clicking I can't doo ittt"
Just no, almost worth 20 bil just to see how low people can sink in their own humiliation
go now, walk off proud bad brock
lmao
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:15:00 -
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Just...pathetic...
Please keep posting
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Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:17:00 -
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oh my ggoosshh a witty brock slap fight, I called him pathetic oh now look he's calling mee pathetic oh my! Is this the best you can do omgz loltrollz?
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sovie Panda Edited by: Sovie Panda on 06/06/2011 18:51:19 clipped for relevance Dethmorn I guess you fit right in, some sort of failed loan shark back alley troll.
Do you mean my moderately successful loan business? I wouldn't call it back alley.
Do you mean the loans I've taken from MD? I'm still current on interest, for over a year in one case.
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Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
Originally by: Sovie Panda Edited by: Sovie Panda on 06/06/2011 18:51:19 clipped for relevance Dethmorn I guess you fit right in, some sort of failed loan shark back alley troll.
Do you mean my moderately successful loan business? I wouldn't call it back alley.
Do you mean the loans I've taken from MD? I'm still current on interest, for over a year in one case.
Whatever deth this is more about Brock, the back alley comment was more because your old portrait reminded me of a ******ed Samoan and I found that guy dealing loans amusing.
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EFFNCOX
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: EFFNCOX on 06/06/2011 19:22:17
Originally by: Brock Nelson At least I still post with my main...which is less pathetic than the guy who doesn't
Brock is not your main, Inoshuu. Any alliance that doesn't immediately kick out a publicly admitted scam corp is saying they have no problem with his actions.
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane Do you mean the loans I've taken from MD? I'm still current on interest, for over a year in one case.
A whole year and you haven't paid back the principle? I guess moderately successful = still broke. |
Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:29:00 -
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That pretty much wraps up the CLINIC better luck next time.
BAI
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Cheque Please
Hot Like Mexico
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:40:00 -
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The real tragedy is that the true victims are, like always, the children...
oh wait, that's pretty much everyone on MD!
Who's going to poop in the sandbox next? --- RL Meeting w/ Chribba
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sovie Panda
ROFL, so some numb nuts washed up goon 'scammer' with 1000 alts is going to talk about having the integrity to post with their main.
Your posting history is quite interesting
http://eve-search.com/search/author/Sovie Panda
And another useless alt with no posting history
http://eve-search.com/search/author/EFFNCOX
Brock don't you know you are supposed to use alts to make it look like your offering is filled up, not to troll yourself.
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EFFNCOX
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson FYI; Deth's been a member of the alliance for almost a month, I doubt he was even aware of my plan or the joking around in the alliance channel prior to joining.
Did you know that its pretty easy to look through corp histories? Deth's connections to SRS go way back. The web of alts coming out of SRS corps in general has made for some interesting reading. I now have a much better idea of what of what a certain group of MD poseters really are. It's a scam collective. |
Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 06/06/2011 19:56:20 Just for the record, neither of these faceless alt's are anything to do with me.
I may have been dumb enough to fall for Brock's 'thrust' scam but I still have some class (apparently ).
edit knanid is mine though; if I got one thng out of this debacle it was a good troll alt
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: EFFNCOX Edited by: EFFNCOX on 06/06/2011 19:54:14 Edited by: EFFNCOX on 06/06/2011 19:50:33
Originally by: Brock Nelson FYI; Deth's been a member of the alliance for almost a month, I doubt he was even aware of my plan or the joking around in the alliance channel prior to joining.
Did you know that its pretty easy to look through corp histories? Deth's connections to SRS go way back. The web of alts coming out of SRS corps in general has made for some interesting reading. I now have a much better idea of what of what a certain group of MD poseters really are. It's a scam collective.
Originally by: Breaker77 And another useless alt with no posting history.
Explain to me why it matters that this is an alt posting in a thread from a scammer.
btw Deth your contacts list makes for an interesting read.
I don't even remember who I have on my contact list, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Does it show how I have them categorized? Maybe then I'd have a better idea what you could possibly be referencing.
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:05:00 -
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@ Brock, if you don't mind me asking.
In the original IPO thread you repeatedly stated (and iirc others agreed) that there were various options that could allow you to unlock, locked BPO's, hence making the audit and any pretences at security virtually pointless.
Are there actual known methods that people can use to unlock locked BPO's, or was that just a ploy to lull investors into a false sense of security.
To me, there was never much point in holding the shares aq you had already stated you could get around shares if you were of a mind to. But with the way the scam was revealed, it would appear that was not the case as you needed the share.
Look forward to your (and others) response. Not gonna just take your word for it any more am I ?
KV
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thebarry
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:38:00 -
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Edited by: thebarry on 06/06/2011 20:40:53 Well, apparently people who run IPOs and such for MD get jaded very quickly and end up hating almost all of you...then they take your money and run. I even warned you all that that lui kai douchebag(whom i miss dearly) was going to scam you and yet the isk still poured in for him. Then I told a friend he should sell his Brock SharesÖ because I thought Brock might scam and my friend ignored the advice. Granted, I didn't know for sure they would scam, but I thought they might, especially in kai's case. Anyways, I've tried to help you people in the past but almost all of you are apparently beyond help, and doesn't this make MD look pretty bad as well? Do we all get bad reps over this? I feel sorry for the friends I have here who got jacked, and I personally wouldn't do such a confidence scam. But then again, I have taken candy from anonymous babies before, so who am I to judge?
My advice to all of you is the same as it always has been: do not do business with MD.
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EFFNCOX
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane
I don't even remember who I have on my contact list, but I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Does it show how I have them categorized? Maybe then I'd have a better idea what you could possibly be referencing.
It doesn't show how you have them categorized. The ones that interest me are the ones that are clearly not pvp alts. Its like a who's who of goon finance. Lets get down to it then. You say you were scammed as well. But you're still in SRS and so is Brock. Help the classless () understand the situation. It would be difficult for some of us to continue any business relationships with you without understanding what's giong on with SRS. |
Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: EFFNCOX
Originally by: Breaker77 And another useless alt with no posting history.
Explain to me why it matters that this is an alt posting in a thread from a scammer.
In this subforum, no one will take the posts of a character who is 6 days old seriously. Even Tom Gerard would be taken more seriously than an unknown alt.
So either post with your main, submit to an audit to prove you are not a Brock alt, or STFU.
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.06.06 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: EFFNCOX
Originally by: Brock Nelson FYI; Deth's been a member of the alliance for almost a month, I doubt he was even aware of my plan or the joking around in the alliance channel prior to joining.
Did you know that its pretty easy to look through corp histories? Deth's connections to SRS go way back. The web of alts coming out of SRS corps in general has made for some interesting reading. I now have a much better idea of what of what a certain group of MD poseters really are. It's a scam collective.
lol, that's exactly what people were saying two years ago...
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EFFNCOX
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Posted - 2011.06.06 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: EFFNCOX
Originally by: Breaker77 And another useless alt with no posting history.
Explain to me why it matters that this is an alt posting in a thread from a scammer.
In this subforum, no one will take the posts of a character who is 6 days old seriously. Even Tom Gerard would be taken more seriously than an unknown alt.
So either post with your main, submit to an audit to prove you are not a Brock alt, or STFU.
I tell you what. I'll give you my full API if you give me yours. If you can't offer something substantive then maybe you should STFU. I don't care if anyone takes me seriously. They can do the same search I did and get the same information.
Now if someone would get started on explaining the SRS situation since all of you are actively posting and reading this thread, that would be nice. |
Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: EFFNCOX
It doesn't show how you have them categorized. The ones that interest me are the ones that are clearly not pvp alts. Its like a who's who of goon finance.
Huh, I wasn't aware I had that many goon financiers on there; I knew I had a couple Kalrand alts for a while, I thought I'd removed them a while back though. Neat!
Originally by: EFFNCOX
Lets get down to it then. You say you were scammed as well. But you're still in SRS and so is Brock. Help the classless () understand the situation. It would be difficult for some of us to continue any business relationships with you without understanding what's giong on with SRS.
Well, I'm in a C5 wormhole with a static C5. It's not that easy to just up and say "screw you guys, I'm taking my ball and going home". I'm also in my corp's leadership, and it's a great corp with people I really enjoy; I'm loathe to leave it.
I'm rather annoyed that Brock is still in SRS., but in the end it is, unfortunately, not my decision, and it's not like I have to deal with him on a regular basis (the neat part of wormholing, you really only have to like the people you actually play with in your wormhole for the most part).
Does that clear it up sufficiently for you?
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Sovie Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.06 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sovie Panda on 06/06/2011 21:09:48 Edited by: Sovie Panda on 06/06/2011 21:08:25 Holy ****, I come back, check this thread and the wise breaker77 is requesting that all posters have an audit? I really thought Brock was the person I respected least but for some reason I forgot I hate the dip**** MD elites more. Your arrogance combined with audacious stupidity is unmatched.
STFU alts don't take audits, I'm not asking for money, no one cares about your stupid ****ing audits which is apparently the only thing you have to clutch on to. BTW your portrait tells a lot, look what breaker thinks is cool
Edit: Really HOLY ****, how arrogant can you be, go into a thread which isn't your own and trying to audit everyone? Grow old alone breaker 77 and die lonely please
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.06 21:13:00 -
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The fact that 2 unknown alts with no posting history prior to this thread and is only less than a week old shows one of the 3 things.
1. They're created by someone (or two person) who is directly affected by the scam. In other words, you're one of the person on the list in post #1. In this case everyone would ask why you're still posting an a nameless alt.
2. They're created by someone who is indirectly affected, either you've purchased shares via Block's exchange or you feel like you've been "betrayed" by my actions.
3. They're created by someone who feels like their opinion is important, even though it carries no weight.
One alt is posting garbage that is normally graded for 4chan. Other alt is posting more intelligently but is using facts that are either outdated or is manipulated for their own use.
Either way, both of you continue to put spotlight on me and my scam which I enjoy
Khanid, in answer to your question, the methods I've mentioned do exist, in fact I believe the method of unlocking blueprints via un-renting offices has been corrected by CCP. The fact that I've mentioned didn't really serve as a ploy to lure investors into false sense of security but rather lure investors into false sense of trust.
I should point out that people who've purchased shares via Block's exchange are not just victims of my scam but rather victims of their own perception of what the share is really worth. As Khanid had pointed out to me previously, the shares were being traded at 2-3 times inflated compared to what was the actual value. So even if the IPO had ended legitimately, someone was going to lose out in the end because they had overpaid for the shares.
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Fred Barbossa
Free Mineral Collective
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Posted - 2011.06.06 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: EFFNCOX Edited by: EFFNCOX on 06/06/2011 19:54:14 Edited by: EFFNCOX on 06/06/2011 19:50:33
Originally by: Brock Nelson FYI; Deth's been a member of the alliance for almost a month, I doubt he was even aware of my plan or the joking around in the alliance channel prior to joining.
Did you know that its pretty easy to look through corp histories? Deth's connections to SRS go way back. The web of alts coming out of SRS corps in general has made for some interesting reading. I now have a much better idea of what of what a certain group of MD poseters really are. It's a scam collective.
Did your research by any chance involve reading the forums? Its pretty obvious after a couple minutes.
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