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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:43:00 -
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AT9.BIG-EVE.COM
BIG is proud once again to be hosting betting for the EVE populace.
AT9 Dates & TimesMay 28th & 29th - Pre-Qualifying Round 1 June 4th & 5th - Pre-Qualifying Round 2 June 11th, 12th & 18th - Group Stage June 19th - Finals
The following types of bets can be madeObserve the deadlines for making a particular bet!!! - Else your bet is void. TIA for your donation. ISK will NOT be returned if you make a particular bet after it's deadline!!! Consider it a tax on the stupid. So doublecheck!
Make your bets before 2011.05.28 15:00 EVE time (Start of the Pre-Qualifiers stage) A01: Bet on a team making it to the Groups stage. (teams #65-#68 obviously not valid for this bet) A02: Bet on a team making it to the Finals (knock-out) stage. A03: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals. A04: Bet on a team winning the tournament.
Make your bets before 2011.06.11 15:00 EVE time (Start of the Groups stage B05: Bet on a team making it to the Finals (knock-out) stage. B06: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals. B07: Bet on a team winning the tournament.
Make your bets before 2011.06.19 15:00 EVE time (Start of the Finals (knock-out) stage) C08: Bet on a team making it to the semi-finals. C09: Bet on a team winning the tournament.
Bets 10,11 and 12 below dosn't open until the teams for the matches have been found Make your bets before 2011.06.19 20:00 EVE time (Start of the first semi-final, match 125) D10: Bet on who will win semi-final A (match 125). D11: Bet on who will win semi-final B (match 126).
Make your bets before 2011.06.19 21:30 EVE time (Start of the final, match 127) E12: Bet on who will win the Final (match 127).
How to betSend your ISK to the character BIG Games (1M ISK increments only) who is a member of the corporation BIG. Please do doublecheck!!! There's so many (name look-alike) scammers out there it's just ridiculous.
Also - Follow the instructions TO THE LETTER on what to enter in the "reason" field when you wire ISK. Use the "Bet Calculator" on the AT9 website to know what bet code to enter (example : AT9-B0637)
ISK will NOT be returned if you mess it up!!! Consider it a tax on the stupid. So doublecheck!
Depending on what error you make, your ISK is lost (TIA for your donation), or you might simply be getting BIG Lottery tickets which isn't half bad (As the same char is used for ticket purchases to The BIG Lottery)
So again - Doublecheck!!!
Each year I spend way too much time on double-checking for people who, then, turns out to have messed up.... It's not rocket science people...
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 21/05/2011 17:53:31
This year I'm going to try a little experiment.
Namely the bets D10, D11, E12.
The betting window is extremely small - As it's bets on three individual matches, for which the participants will only have been found shortly before the match itself.
I hope the chosen matches (semi-finals and the final itself) will be high-profile enough that people will want to bet on them - even given the extremely narrow betting window.
Time will tell
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Any issues with the website, please let me know here.
The changed format of the tournament has meant tons and tons of extra hours to redo the website. (as opposed to simply copy/pasting the last tournament website&DB)
I'd be very surprised if there isn't an error or two here and there - Please let me know.
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:48:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT8 [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
PS : A sticky would be nice. Sugar on the top? BIG Lottery |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:49:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT8 [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
PS : A sticky would be nice. Sugar on the top?
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:49:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT8 [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
PS : A sticky would be nice. Sugar on the top?
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:50:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT8 [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
PS : A sticky would be nice. Sugar on the top?
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:50:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT8 [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
PS : A sticky would be nice. Sugar on the top?
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.21 17:51:00 -
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results. They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see : [BIG Betting] AT8 [BIG Betting] AT7 [BIG Betting] AT6 [BIG Betting] AT5 [BIG Betting] AT4
PS : A sticky would be nice. Sugar on the top?
(end of reserved posts)
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.23 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 23/05/2011 09:51:55
The first few bets have ticked in
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I'd really like to have some feed back on the bet types offered.
Too many, too few? Good/bad types of bets?
I'm especially interested in hearing if you think you'll be using the bets D10, D11 and E12 (those with a very short betting window)
Would you like to see more of that type? Or ditch them?
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Saint Lazarus
Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.24 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Edited by: TornSoul on 23/05/2011 09:51:55
The first few bets have ticked in
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I'd really like to have some feed back on the bet types offered.
Too many, too few? Good/bad types of bets?
I'm especially interested in hearing if you think you'll be using the bets D10, D11 and E12 (those with a very short betting window)
Would you like to see more of that type? Or ditch them?
I cant think of any bets that are lacking and like the amount of bets offered, not too many not too few.
Also loving the new short bettin window types, I plan on entering them but worry not alot of other people will (you might never see them or forget to enter in time unless you can remind people somehow, more advertising or something) I would hope CCP puts this thread in the news link leading upto the Tourney.
And as always love the service, it adds so much to the experience of the Tourney
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.24 20:40:00 -
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Thanks for the feed-back. Really!
"forget to enter in time unless you can remind people somehow,"
Yeah that's my main worry as well - It's a *very* narrow window to remember to get a bet in on.
But with a bit of CCP love *hint hint* it might work out - Say the commentators dropping a hint the get the bets in in time on the night of the finals - stuff like that
Of course, that requires that *they* remember Might be a bit hectic around the last few battles there for them...
We'll see ;)
Thanks once more for the feed-back. I don't get much, so mostly operating in a vacuum here with regards to giving people what they want.
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joefishy
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.05.25 08:34:00 -
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Maybe an advert on EVE tv before the big match to remind people to go bet on it ? :)
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.25 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 25/05/2011 09:20:31
Would love to - Alas I lack the skills for that...
EVE TV video adds donations will gladly be accepted though
And we could really really do with some EVE blog love... The deadline for Axx type bets is only a couple of days away - And frankly there's not *that* many bets in yet.
It's all about exposure... More exposure = more bets = BIGger prizes in the end for the winners.
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Saint Lazarus
Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.25 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Edited by: TornSoul on 25/05/2011 09:20:31
Would love to - Alas I lack the skills for that...
EVE TV video adds donations will gladly be accepted though
And we could really really do with some EVE blog love... The deadline for Axx type bets is only a couple of days away - And frankly there's not *that* many bets in yet.
It's all about exposure... More exposure = more bets = BIGger prizes in the end for the winners.
I suspect you'll see alot more bets poppin up at the last minute for those Axx bets :P
You could always try some in game exposure, the old fashioned way of flying around telling people about it, even 1 person per system adds up to alot of people. -----------------
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joefishy
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.05.25 14:47:00 -
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you could sweet talk a gm to do a few broadcasts to the whole of TQ about betting on the next match :)
:)
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.25 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: joefishy you could sweet talk a gm to do a few broadcasts to the whole of TQ about betting on the next match :)
/me drools a bit
How awesome would that be
Unfortunately CCP has become rather allergic to promoting player stuff... Afraid of the accusation of favoritism and all that.
Quite a shame, can't say I blame them (too much) though - We all know how the "public outrage" works around here...
So yeah, that would be a sweet sweet thing to see (for everyone imo) but it's hardly gonna happen
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Caera Baera
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.27 17:00:00 -
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just to make sure:
The B/C/D bets are exactly the same as the A-type ones, the only difference is the closing date of those bets.
So its has no use at this moment to bet on them right? Seeing as you'll only risk choosing a team that might be eliminated before then, and therefor your odds are worse than those of someone betting perhaps a week later.
On the other hand, if i have absolute confidence in a team, and i want to win more, i should bet on their B/C(/D) matches too, since with my A-type bet, i will only win the money of other people's A-type bets.
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Jane Langford
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Posted - 2011.05.27 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Langford on 27/05/2011 22:46:21 Ideas for bets (for the next tournament)
Category A: 1. Bet on Teams not making it to the group stage (if there is a group stage again) 2. Bet on Teams qualifying for the group stage, but not making it to the knockout stage 3. Bet on Teams Finishing 1st in their group (difficult but interesting bet, while the group constellation is not set yet).
Category B:
1. Bet on Teams not making it to the knockout stage 2. Bet on Teams Finishing 1st in their group
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.28 09:38:00 -
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@Caera Baera
Absolutely spot on.
@Jane Langford Betting on teams not making a certain stage : Interesting twist - I'll keep that in mind.
Betting on group winners : I actually did those in the past (whree we had groups), but cut them out this time, mainly to keep the list of bet types within reason (otherwise the risk is that bets gets too spread out - ie. few counterbets that one can win)
But I'll definitely keep it in mind.
Thanks a lot for the feed back.
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Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 28/05/2011 15:06:36 Hello. I am dumb. Could you clarify what the payout of (for example) a 10m isk bet with odds of
A) 1 - 667,33 B) 1 - 1.334,67
So, A would payout 16,673,300m isk (~6.7m net gain), and B wins me 23,346,700 isk (~13.4m net gain), correct? It's the commas and decimals that are throwing me for a loop here.
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Jaari Val'Dara
Caldari Deep Space Nomads Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.28 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Aloe Cloveris Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 28/05/2011 15:06:36 Hello. I am dumb. Could you clarify what the payout of (for example) a 10m isk bet with odds of
A) 1 - 667,33 B) 1 - 1.334,67
So, A would payout 16,673,300m isk (~6.7m net gain), and B wins me 23,346,700 isk (~13.4m net gain), correct? It's the commas and decimals that are throwing me for a loop here.
It depends, if all other teams who were bet on winning will lose except for yours then you will win 667.33 times your bet. If all the teams everyone bet on win including yours then you get back your money. Obviously you will get something in between.
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.28 18:04:00 -
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What Jaari Val'Dara said :-)
It's also explained below each list of bets actually
And the ",/." war... well... it's the internet, get used to it
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.05.30 20:12:00 -
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This one needs some glue...
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TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.06.03 19:09:00 -
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For once all teams showed up for the first round of fights.
Makes my life easier
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Fritz Brause
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Posted - 2011.06.05 21:57:00 -
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just out of interest, when will be the payout for A01?
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carbomb
Super Team Munkey
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Posted - 2011.06.06 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Fritz Brause just out of interest, when will be the payout for A01?
was wondering the same thing
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Decus Daga
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Posted - 2011.06.07 00:09:00 -
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Yesyes, me and a few corpies are dying to know the end odds :D (and our winnings)
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Hei'di
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.08 22:42:00 -
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bump
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:22:00 -
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40m isk down the drain for me. I'm historically terrible at picking winners. I hope those of you with better insight into this kind of thing enjoy my isk.
- "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.06.09 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: carbomb
Originally by: Fritz Brause just out of interest, when will be the payout for A01?
was wondering the same thing
All payouts will be done after the tournament is over. As I then only have to do math once
Couple of days left on Bxx type bets.
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