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Simokon
Smegnet Incorporated En Garde
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Posted - 2011.05.13 07:29:00 -
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wtb someone from ccp to own the OP like they have done in past threads similar to this.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.05.13 07:53:00 -
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I miss the good old days of Mitnal and Oveur =( -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Illwill Bill
Talu Shaya Talu Shaya Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.13 07:56:00 -
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Edited by: Illwill Bill on 13/05/2011 07:56:22 Well, if you're confident that you've done nothing wrong, why don't you ask for a public investigation of the matter?
I have fond memories of the last time they did. Since that day, PrismX is forever my hero.
Edit: We miss you Mitnal!
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Revenge is a dish best served with auto-cannons.
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Sentinel 7
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Posted - 2011.05.13 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Sentinel 7 on 13/05/2011 08:35:02 Your mining alt was banned, and as a consequence your main was banned. However most of your complaining is directed at the "unfair" linking of the two accounts and the desire to get your main reinstated, rather than protesting the actual macro accusations any more seriously than "show proof plz".
Rather suggests you know damn well your alt was guilty and you are (were) happy to sacrifice it, but now you've realised the sanctions affect the Player not the Account and you're panicking.
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Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.13 08:36:00 -
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Another botter bites the proverbial dust and comes to the forum to whine.
As you can see, OP, noone in this thread believes you're innocent and nobody will fight "your cause". Cheaters like you should, and are, removed from the game in a timely manner.
æIf you are not big enough to lose, then you are not big enough to win.Æ |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.13 09:01:00 -
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"CCP suddenly ninjas and performs macro tear extraction and reclamation service"-posts are the best entertainment of 2011.
5 thumbs up - keep up with the good work :)
------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :) |
Floydd Heywood
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Posted - 2011.05.13 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Aderata Nonkin As you can see, OP, noone in this thread believes you're innocent
He didn't actually even claim to be innocent. Just whined because he believed his main account was safe from consequences as long as he only cheated with his alt account.
But of course a ban should punish the player, not the character, and I'm glad that CCP thinks the same
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.05.13 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Simokon wtb someone from ccp to own the OP like they have done in past threads similar to this.
IIRC the OP has to specifically request that CCP publically explain why he was punished.
Your move, OP.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Jugulator Boloskarl
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Posted - 2011.05.13 09:58:00 -
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Sounds like they are picking on you FOR NO REASON.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2011.05.13 10:13:00 -
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When i¦m at work and have some spare time, i usually mine, as this laptop suffers a bit of module lagging, which would make missioning L4¦s a bit risky, not only because of lag but some dc¦s from mobile internet as well.
I¦m ATK, if someone convo¦s me i answer, and i mine with miners II out, which clearly no macro will. Never had an issue with ccp.
OP: I don¦t want to flame as i have no evidence if you were botting or not - but - ALL MACROS MUST DIE!
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Hossein Fahmideh
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Posted - 2011.05.13 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: 5ilentHero Sreegs, I was wondering if you could post an explanation on that "bot page" regarding how a GM justifies their ban of a "macro user". So I can reprogram my bot around them. It would be highly appreciated.
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Discrodia
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.13 11:42:00 -
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Just like both my drivers license was suspended after I committed 5 vehicular homicides without my knowing!
Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.13 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: 5ilentHero
--stuff followed by ---
End of story.
QED.
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Dark Muse
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Posted - 2011.05.13 12:20:00 -
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Stop macromining and you won't be banned again.
Simple uh?
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Daniela Darr
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Posted - 2011.05.13 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Daniela Darr on 13/05/2011 12:32:22
Originally by: Dark Muse Stop macromining and you won't be banned again.
Simple uh?
Yes indeed - isn't the ban just temporary the 1st and 2nd times they catch you botting?
No need to worry (yet) ..
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.05.13 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Daniela Darr Edited by: Daniela Darr on 13/05/2011 12:32:22
Originally by: Dark Muse Stop macromining and you won't be banned again.
Simple uh?
Yes indeed - isn't the ban just temporary the 1st and 2nd times they catch you botting?
No need to worry (yet) ..
plenty of chances to try again
create new accounts they wont link to the others. properly launder the isk in game (worst that can happen is some innocent people go down with you)
ccp likes cheating. all accounts make them money, there is a decent customer base that would rather pay to get ahead than play to get ahead and they know this
...regardless of whatever b.s. lip service they try to feed. if they were serious, they wouldn't give repeated warnings
actions speak much louder than words. and we can all see ccp's actions quite clearly. a half-hearted effort meant to appease the masses while still allowing rife and rampant cheating in the game.
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Ava Starfire
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.05.13 12:43:00 -
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9/10
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Virtue Maulerant
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Posted - 2011.05.13 12:52:00 -
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Ordo Hereticus Requests Termination *stamp on OP's forehead*
aka bai makro
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Sandrestal
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Posted - 2011.05.13 13:18:00 -
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OP, the answer really is the drone Russians don't want any competition.
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Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.13 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: 5ilentHero It's my fault I was botting.
Fixed it for you.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.05.13 13:27:00 -
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Of course false positives can happen and humans can mistakes.
So to the op, if you think that you are innocent, write a petition, you also have the right to escalate the petition.
But be aware that most probably you won't get internal details of how bots are detected.
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LittleTerror
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.05.13 13:36:00 -
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Quote: Both of my accounts banned for no reason.
Right!
You should be ****ing perma banned ****...
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Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2011.05.13 14:22:00 -
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My sympathies could perhaps be engaged if the OP had even bothered to deny macro mining on his mining account. But he rather noticeably failed to do so.
Butthurt macro miner is butthurt. Next! ------------------ Ironfleet.com |
Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.05.13 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hossein Fahmideh
Originally by: 5ilentHero Sreegs, I was wondering if you could post an explanation on that "bot page" regarding how a GM justifies their ban of a "macro user". So I can reprogram my bot around them. It would be highly appreciated.
This, exactly.
The point of this thread was not to protest the ban, nor even protest his main getting banned.
The point was to try and get more information about how these determinations are made so that the botting community can better protect themselves.
Pr1ncess Alia, although it wouldn't break my heart to see the current guideline on banning for botting reduced to 2 warnings, I don't find it difficult to understand them handling this like any other rules violation. More serious infractions get less leeway (in this situation people involved in RMT), less serious infractions get a standard 3 strikes (your average Joe running some bots). It will take a bit for people to try and find some wiggle room, but eventually the point will be made.
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Thanks Much
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.13 15:11:00 -
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What I want to know is... Did his isk get taken away? A 14 day ban is nice and all, but if he still gets to keep all the isk he made, it still encourages people to bot.
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Sarah Tarith
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.05.13 15:13:00 -
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I just noticed this thread, the OP seems to have my same issue.
Originally by: "Wa'roun"
You need to petition and wait. You need to provide logs of what you have been doing. Show proof. Explain yourself
This does not work.
I have been banned for 2 weeks and NOTHING is possible because the whole system (EvE, forums, ticket system, EvE Gate) completely locks you out with no chance to even ask what the hell happened.
Also, I'd love to know *HOW* to prove, how to explain.
What can we produce that CCP will accept as proof?
Originally by: "Ghoest"
Well it is your own fault for mining.
The better you are at mining the more it looks like a bot is doing it.
Where is it written that someone cannot mine more than X minutes else *HE IS FOR SURE* a bot? (Sure enough to get auto-banned).
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.05.13 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 13/05/2011 15:25:33
Originally by: Sarah Tarith I just noticed this thread, the OP seems to have my same issue.
Originally by: "Wa'roun"
You need to petition and wait. You need to provide logs of what you have been doing. Show proof. Explain yourself
This does not work.
I have been banned for 2 weeks and NOTHING is possible because the whole system (EvE, forums, ticket system, EvE Gate) completely locks you out with no chance to even ask what the hell happened.
Also, I'd love to know *HOW* to prove, how to explain.
What can we produce that CCP will accept as proof?
Originally by: "Ghoest"
Well it is your own fault for mining.
The better you are at mining the more it looks like a bot is doing it.
you can't. no one has to prove anything to you. this isn't a court of law
don't let the door hit you on the way out
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Sentinel 7
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Posted - 2011.05.13 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sarah Tarith
I have been banned for 2 weeks and NOTHING is possible because the whole system (EvE, forums, ticket system, EvE Gate) completely locks you out with no chance to even ask what the hell happened.
So you are saying that CCP are somehow preventing you using your email? Wow, I didn't realise they were that omnipotent.
And clearly you can post on the forums, so you have an "unlocked" account you can use to contact them with.
Haven't tried at all, have you?
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Sarah Tarith
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.05.13 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sarah Tarith on 13/05/2011 15:34:50
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
you can't. no one has to prove anything to you. this isn't a court of law
don't let the door hit you on the way out
Well, I don't know the OP case but I have paid over $2100 in these years, no PLEX cheapsauce. I'd at least deserve a change to have a single reply to my petitions after > 1 week, even a GTFO, just to prove someone is actually at work.
Originally by: Sentinel 7
Originally by: Sarah Tarith
I have been banned for 2 weeks and NOTHING is possible because the whole system (EvE, forums, ticket system, EvE Gate) completely locks you out with no chance to even ask what the hell happened.
So you are saying that CCP are somehow preventing you using your email? Wow, I didn't realise they were that omnipotent.
And clearly you can post on the forums, so you have an "unlocked" account you can use to contact them with.
Haven't tried at all, have you?
I paid to create this account just to post my innocence claim in another thread. So I have tried this.
I have sent off this paid account a petition > 1 week ago, no reply. I have sent the mail petition with the anon petition form >> 1 week ago, no reply. I have sent a mail to [email protected] >> 1 week ago, no reply.
Even if I was guilty, shouldn't I get at least a GTFO reply?
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.05.13 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sarah Tarith
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
you can't. no one has to prove anything to you. this isn't a court of law
don't let the door hit you on the way out
Well, I don't know the OP case but I have paid over $2100 in these years, no PLEX cheapsauce. I'd at least deserve a change to have a single reply to my petitions after > 1 week, even a GTFO, just to prove someone is actually at work.
I hope you enjoyed the time in game you paid for.
Buh-bye
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
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