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ALTNAME
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:00:00 -
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Seeing that it is against CCP policy to reimburse those that suffer from excessive lag caused by overgraphical and unnecessary effects/items/drones in the game, resulting in loss through combat or a complete inability to jump or warp away, is then this game at all worth playing? Perhaps the system requirements of this game be stated at a much higher level, however doing that will exclude most computers out there. To suggest 35 seconds to jump after the word 'Jumping' is a problem that is unresolveable by ccp, when the definition of exploit, is the use of a game mechanic to attain an unfair advantage, is quite ridiculous. Concerning the game itself, their is a corrolary of this careless attitude in the game design. This is the most individual player unfriendly mmorpg I have ever played. It is not that one player must be capable of everything, but something. Agent missions are the only, if rather boring, redemption. Strategies of Defense are counterintuitive, as the capabilities of offense are much greater, particularly when 2 lesser craft are facing, even a much greater craft. The Result is that defense is punished, and hyper offense, almost twitch level combat is affirmed. Their is a great deal of whining concerning dissent, ultimately it is related to the belief that persistent pandering and disparate consideration of the capacities of individuals to even survive is necessary for a game to be consistently interesting. The great investment in time, which translates to money, is wholly useless for any module or ship, but number. No Battleship, or named module, can equate lesser ships in numbers. It is useless to save for anything, except to satisfy ones ego. All of the ships in this game look Retarded except some of the smallest weakest ones incidentally, so they are nothing to be proud of. This rambling about Ships is an affirmation of the great disservice done any who dare to venture anywhere alone. So then is the policy of CCP, that those Ganked and attacked without possibility of defense due to lag(this issue was resolved in other mmorpgs, and was known as griefing, clone griefing, etc, and ultimately removed), are on their own. Given the number of CTD, and server problems AFTER exodus, the likelihood of both of my computers setups mysteriouly becoming unfit for warping is a bit unlikely.
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Poseiden
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:05:00 -
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OMFG my eyes!!!1111eleveneleven
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Tisti
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:12:00 -
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Seeing how people are cowards that post this with alts (which you must be, since you are 5+ months in a n0bz0r corp), I say we have come to an end in this thread.. And remember.. You dont HAVE to pvp.. Just stay inside 0.5 space and you'll be fine.. No lag, no warping out...
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Bawldeux IV
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:15:00 -
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...can I have your stuff??
btw, would you like some cheese with your whine?
i would mention the 'Q' word, but why bother...you would whine about that too... ::::::::::::::::::::::::: >>...wanna cookie?<< :::::::::::::::::::::::::
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Attrezzo Pox
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:16:00 -
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Sounds like "The case of the ****ie internet connection".
Well bud, that sucks but unfortunately there are at least five thousand other people that disagree with you. (that's assumeing everyone pays for a second account). If I could help you here I'd pass the joint, that's really all that can be done. I'd explain but you're obviously too angry to care, so turn off your computer, take your couch outside and get drunk out back with the dogs, or better yet go to a bar and pick up some hot chicks. You'll feel alot better. |
ALTNAME
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:26:00 -
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This alt isnt used, that is why the new corporation, in any case, I have 2 accounts, this one the character is indepdendent, the other, enslaved in some ridiculously huge and inept alliance.
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ALTNAME
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:30:00 -
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Q word, Quit? I did From August Until Mid January. The Game has not improved, it has merely solidified in its innanity, and needless overcomplexity given the secret avenue, number of buddies, as the best method, is unchanged. Concerning Lag it has gotten worse, 2 open clients used to be a bit more managable, now one insists on bumping the other, some form of directx problem Im sure.
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Tenaj
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Posted - 2005.02.09 22:33:00 -
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Paragraphs are your friend.
Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
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qrac
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Posted - 2005.02.09 23:06:00 -
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i heard solitaire is a good game. -------------------------------------------
Insanes numquam moriuntur! |
Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2005.02.10 00:27:00 -
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I run two clients all the time, no lag, no problems...and I like the graphics et al...
Check us out
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Grim
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Posted - 2005.02.10 02:28:00 -
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i run 4 accounts at once no lag! whoot whoot
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Thomdril Merrilin
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Posted - 2005.02.10 02:39:00 -
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OMG I AM BLINDED!!!1!11!!
Note. Alt posting is lame at the best of times.
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Drunken Claptrap
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Posted - 2005.02.10 02:46:00 -
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zzzzzz...OH...AND MORE zzzz
That is possibly the mos boring load of drivel i have ever read.
Quit your subscription and do something more constructive with your time , like selling Medal of Honour Rifles on Ebay.
Otherwise....quit whinging and....sheesh, why am i botherin... ps. paragraphs ARE friendly. Draft Beer Not People |
Hawk Firestorm
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Posted - 2005.02.10 02:53:00 -
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I have to agree with some of this.
Overall CCP haven't spent nearly enough time trying to fix the fundementals of the game.
One big area is maximising utilising clientside to maximise game performance by shuntin more low risk graphical content there.
Also serverside with the server code, grp play is the worst now it's ever been as far as speed goes.
And yes alot can be attributed to Torp effects etc.
While new content is good, for older players in general we just want to play the game not spend 2 months training lev 5 skills for 1 mod.
High end content such as titans should indeed be hard to get however many of the skill dependancies are excessive, it's not like there's a shortage of skills to keep characters training long after this game is a ancient memory, and with plenty of scope to add new ones for new content.
Diverse & enjoyable gameplay is what keeps people interested and paying not skills.
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2005.02.10 03:13:00 -
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Altname, you're full of sheep dip.
The game doesn't lag because things are "overgraphical" (You should write corporate press releases.). The game lags because of network and database access constraints.
The EVE servers cluster is essentially a very high volume database. When a lot of things are happening on your screen, there's a lot more information that needs to be pushed back and forth between your client the the database. This is what causes the lag.
Now, given this new-found clue you've obtained, start over with this sad rant of yours.
-CR
/* Cortex Reaver crtxreavr at trioptimum dot com
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 */ |
altermeister
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Posted - 2005.02.10 03:34:00 -
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Yeah post from alts dont deserve replies..
Silly alt poster.
Die alt...
Blah blah
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.02.10 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: ALTNAME This alt isnt used
So this isnt using it?
Retard
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ALTNAME
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Posted - 2005.02.10 06:34:00 -
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Now you resort to name calling?
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Kanonus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 07:53:00 -
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I noticed yesterday that is a lot less lag in 0.0 then in yulai. In 0.0 EVE is like a dream...fast, no lag
So i guess that empire space is getting to crowded. So CCP get more agents out in 0.0 and the lag will get less in empire.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.02.10 08:16:00 -
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I miss doubleclick warp to. The lag on selecting a warpout objective just for the UI itself is stupid, not to even mention communicating with the server. If it weren't for keeping the autopilot on standby, I'd lose far more ships to PvE than PvP. I don't understand why the game only seems to slow down and the client jerk around when I'm selecting a planet or a station for a warp destination. Using even the right click menu seems faster sometimes..
PvP I don't mind b/c everyone can be assumed to be in similar circumstances. The npc never lags of course..
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2005.02.10 09:56:00 -
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im never going to read that
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Psy Corp im never going to read that
me neither
Mai's Idealog |
Rot Animal
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: MaiLina KaTar
Originally by: Psy Corp im never going to read that
me neither
I read it
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Dukath
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Posted - 2005.02.10 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cortex Reaver Altname, you're full of sheep dip.
The game doesn't lag because things are "overgraphical" (You should write corporate press releases.). The game lags because of network and database access constraints.
The EVE servers cluster is essentially a very high volume database. When a lot of things are happening on your screen, there's a lot more information that needs to be pushed back and forth between your client the the database. This is what causes the lag.
Now, given this new-found clue you've obtained, start over with this sad rant of yours.
-CR
While I only partially agree with him, I will have to defend him a bit. Its not because you don't have graphics lag that nobody else has. Personally I experience graphics lag a lot of the time, and in every single battle. Sure my pc is not the ultimate gaming pc but it is well above minimal requirements.
What ****es me off is the flat refusal of CCP to allow wireframe mode while that would drastically increase fps for those players getting very bad fps. I dont like battles with less than 1 fps where the mouse lags 4 frames and it takes 30 seconds for a rightclick menu to show up.
This is completely separate from the lag where modules turn on 20 seconds after activating them and can be solved separately.
Ah well, its too late for me since my account is cancelled. And no you can't have ny stuff since its already given away :p
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.02.10 11:35:00 -
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I only lag when both of my accounts start shooting torps at each other in a deadspace nebula cloud thingie. ---------------------------
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