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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.05.02 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Wyke Mossari creepy stuff
I think the fact that you've gone to all this trouble is the most troubling thing in this thread. Step away from the computer, you freak. -------------- Fix the game's last broken weapon system - support if you care!
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.05.02 22:14:00 -
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BY THE WAY TROLLERS. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ASKED ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS PREVIOUSLY, BEEN SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWERS AND THEN PROCEEDED TO PURCHASE??
These are pretty much stock questions.
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Never have I seen this guy lose his cool the way he has today
Today it was a real investment where he'd have to prove being a social and propositive business man. It's the one way to attract investors who are not dummies ready to give in to the first "guru" asking them money.
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Sorry I couldn't have explained how well we have come to know each other in RL and in EvE and have shot down trollers who probably don't have the money to invest.
The tire kickers are easy to figure out and ignore. Though, in this case, he managed to keep off potential investors. I had a pair of billions to put in here but I did not got convinced so I'll give them to Towaoc.
For an example of what an investor wants to hear, look the nearby Grendell thread. Grendell has been kind, gentle, replied to similar uncomfortable questions with professionalism and I'll surely look forward to invest in him the next time he puts up a bond with a better interest %.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.02 22:32:00 -
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I suspect a serious lack of sleep here.
Edwin is very hands-on with his casino, he is proud of it. that and a lack of sleep i suspect caused him to react negatively to the obvious troll's who are only in it to get a negative reaction, (some of whom he considered friends from scc-lounge). (VV called them tire kickers i lol'd in RL.)
tl:dr get more sleep ___ iCandy Bonds
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.05.03 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea tl:dr get more sleep
excellent advice candy :)
The goal was to sell 20b in shares. Players sent 28.3b total. I'm pretty sure everything is correct, but if you didn't get your shares or the incorrect number please let me know. Thanks again to everyone who purchased shares. The first dividend payment is wednesday.
sleepy time! [ Casino | Loans ] |
Syds Sinclair
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Posted - 2011.05.03 00:15:00 -
[155]
..Big congratulations on filling such a large bond in which a short time.
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Zamestian Han
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Posted - 2011.05.03 05:43:00 -
[156]
WTB 30 Shares @101m each
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.03 05:46:00 -
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Selling 1 share @ 150m, itsa fair deal, take it (Brad pitt Pikey Voice) ___ iCandy Bonds
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Moto Akimoto
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Posted - 2011.05.03 06:23:00 -
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Bid: 10 shares @ 35,454,919.07 each Ask: 10 shares @ 354,549,190.67 each
Offer good until 2011-05-04 @ 18:00 UTC __________________________________ Hello, I sell Rookie ships in bulk. The minimum order value is a gazillion isk. Inquire within. |
khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.03 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Edwin Rothbard
Thus if anyone who has already purchased the maximum numbers of shares would like to buy more you may now do so. If other smaller investors show up before saturday I will honor the commitment to let them purchase shares. If this kicks me over the 20b mark by a little bit so be it.
don't this mean for me (only have 2 share) can still buy a share at normal price of 100m ?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.05.03 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: AssassinationsdoneWrong BY THE WAY TROLLERS. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ASKED ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS PREVIOUSLY, BEEN SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWERS AND THEN PROCEEDED TO PURCHASE??
I'm assuming you consider me a troll because Edwin didn't answer my, very basic, questions. To answer your question, I've invested in dozens of MD offerings and I never invest unless the questions I ask are answered to my satisfaction. This applies to offerings made by people I personally like as much as by those I don't know. I have pulled my investment from long running offerings in the past when they failed to satisfy me on new developments (e.g. Machete Visor, who went on to scam btw) and I have invested in offerings about which I had concerns once my concerns were addressed (e.g. the FPA IPO). I've invested from 500mil up to 25bil in single unsecured offerings. I haven't yet lost isk on an investment, despite being at it for over a year.
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Never have I seen this guy lose his cool the way he has today. Not because he was always that way (in fact he is the calmest most stoic guy I know) but purely based upon such inane, and downright bloody-minded cross questioning which he knew would have just opened the door to 10 more avenues per question because you never had any intention of purchasing in the first place!!
This offer did not face serious, hard-core questioning. No questions beyond the most basic were asked. The outrage the OP showed at being asked to clear up very basic issues was far more telling than the answers he did or didn't give. History shows that the likely outcomes for investing in people that answer concerns in such a fashion is not good. This has nothing to do with the intrinsic strength of the business plan but something else that is more important in eve investments - how one deals with people and what concern one shows for other peoples' interests. Even when things don't end with a scam or default they may end in a 'McCormack' scenario, which is almost as bad for investors.
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If it was me I would have pulled the whole plan and refunded all investors because they demonstrated insight, wisdom and sound judgement, but he's a level above and here he is sticking to it and honoring the plan he originally conceived. Hats off to you mate.
The cult of personality that some posters are trying to build up around Edwin is one of the most concerning things here. He's a good guy and so shouldn't have to answer questions is a terrible approach for an investor to take (whether or not it is true that the person genuinely is a good guy). Edwin even went so far as to encourage this type of slavish sycophancy by stating that he wouldn't accept an investment from someone who asked too many questions.
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.05.03 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: khai88 don't this mean for me (only have 2 share) can still buy a share at normal price of 100m ?
Yes khai you may. Although I will say we are rapidly approaching 30b in shares sold and I really do not want to go over mark.
Zeeawk setup an investors page at the casino for shareholders. If you create a casino account at www.rothbards.com I can set your status to investor which will give you access to the casino profit history with colorful graph! The data provided is very basic; it's just a start. The data will be updated weekly. Because of that I will probably not bother copying/pasting the dividend data into google docs because it's extra work.
I give all new signups at the casino 1m free isk this is extended to investors who create accounts. You can wander about the casino with your 1m free iskies in hand marvel at what you invested in!
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.03 12:38:00 -
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i will get another 1 share pls(isk send) and for every 10b ipo you get i will buy 1 more share
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.05.03 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: khai88 i will get another 1 share pls(isk send) and for every 10b ipo you get i will buy 1 more share
money received and share sent. Thanks!
Also forgot to mention to everyone. Your shares can be found in your wallet->shares tab. The name of your shares are "Rothbard's Casino." [ Casino | Loans ] |
SMX
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:08:00 -
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Want to buy 4 shares at 105m each.
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:17:00 -
[165]
All of the IPO shares have been sold. If you would like to buy or sell shares you can do so in the secondary market! [ Casino | Loans ] |
khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.03 18:50:00 -
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can i know what is the value of IPO sell? 30b?
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.05.03 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: khai88 can i know what is the value of IPO sell? 30b?
yes, post #7 has the totals.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1504515&page=1#7 [ Casino | Loans ] |
Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.03 22:42:00 -
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Selling my 2 shares @ 110m each.
PM for a Deal. ___ iCandy Bonds
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: egola on 04/05/2011 00:46:05
Originally by: Candy Oshea Selling my 2 shares @ 110m each.
PM for a Deal.
ooooh slick bastard, already selling at profit aye?
edit: roth can you set up my acct to investor status?
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.04 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea Selling my 2 shares @ 110m each.
PM for a Deal.
Edwin just letting you know i sold my 2 shares @ 110m each, to an anonymous party (you can check yourself through your corps' shares tab.)
Please note that i Didn't 'panic sell' coz i though this was a scam , but i was always going punt the shares on for a quick buck , & the amount of mails i got in response to selling the shares at 110m was astonishing, i can't turn down 10% for 2 days.
I may buy in again when you expand, depends on my position.
best of luck,
Candy. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.05.04 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: egola edit: roth can you set up my acct to investor status?
done
Originally by: egola Please note that i Didn't 'panic sell' coz i though this was a scam , but i was always going punt the shares on for a quick buck , & the amount of mails i got in response to selling the shares at 110m was astonishing, i can't turn down 10% for 2 days.
I figured there would be some day traders mixed in with the long-term investors. The fact that you sold your shares for more than the IPO price is good for all of the shareholders. [ Casino | Loans ] |
Arancar Australis
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Posted - 2011.05.04 15:55:00 -
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Hi Edwin,
Can you double check to see if my share was sent, just check my Wallet and not showing up under the share Tab...unless i am looking at it wrong (which may be possible )
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.05.04 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Arancar Australis Hi Edwin,
Can you double check to see if my share was sent, just check my Wallet and not showing up under the share Tab...unless i am looking at it wrong (which may be possible )
You are correct. I sent your share to the wrong person. You should now have your share in your wallet. Sorry for the mixup. regards, Edwin [ Casino | Loans ] |
Gatan Hahran
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Posted - 2011.05.04 22:19:00 -
[174]
Thanks for first weekly payment! |
Mining Hole
Gallente The Rogue Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.05.04 22:28:00 -
[175]
Dividend received - very happy - already blown it all inside the investment *thumbs up*
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Enigmatarius
Production Industry Mining Profiteers
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Posted - 2011.05.04 23:34:00 -
[176]
Confirming weekly dividend payment. Thanks very much
Also digging the investors chart page
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.05 00:49:00 -
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Quote: In business since December 27th, 2010 Player Accounts1,364 ISK Payouts161,861,007,325.49 ISK Prizes Awarded84,746,623,098.00 ISK Player Balances2,174,818,727.11 ISK Canflips Completed782 Matari Pick'em Hands Played1,383,650 Blackjack Hands Played171,893
Quoted for reference. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Daniel limb
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.05 01:19:00 -
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in on ground floor of future scam thread
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Jean Baptiste Johansson
High-Tech Duct Tape DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.05.05 01:35:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Daniel limb in on ground floor of future scam thread
In on the ground floor of a stupid Goon meme.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.05 02:03:00 -
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Im sorry if i missed it, but is there any form of public record of dividend payments?
Im curious what the dividend per share was. ___ iCandy Bonds
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