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Captain JeanLuc' Picard
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Posted - 2011.04.26 13:23:00 -
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does anyone agree with me that some ships need to be redesigned or scrapped and replaced completely ?
name the ugliest ships you hate and think should be re-skinned !
for example the bellicose comes to mind as lazy designing ...
maybe ccp could do more player 'design a new ship' competitions like they did recently
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Larry Wickes
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Posted - 2011.04.26 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: Larry Wickes on 26/04/2011 13:46:02 I think everyone would agree with the idea of the Revenaught being redesigned. Some would say that it actually looks decent, but that's not the point, and by point, that's just what I mean!
This ship is lacking spikes which every other typical Sansha ship has, which is the defining quality of the Sansha people!
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.26 13:55:00 -
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Aesthetics are 100% subjective. No matter who designs the ships some people will think they are pretty, and some people will think they are ugly.
"Picture the fattest chick you know.... God would totally do her"
~ Handful of Peter . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Renarla
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Posted - 2011.04.26 14:07:00 -
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Space potato wins this no contest.
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Moody Fugher
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Posted - 2011.04.26 14:18:00 -
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In contradiction to general state of p[eople, i think the "looks" are important in a visual experience (i dont want to be blind xD).... id say in this order
-Raven (cos tey are everywhere and make the world look terrible) -Dominix, (give it more detail, but in high res, with sheen) -Imicus/Helois (dont need to explain here lol) -Ibis -Hyperion (remove it's anus shaped wings) -Proteus (give it some wings) -Apoc (It think it looks like an ineffective peg leg):P:P -Phoenix (the blob in the blob) -Machariel (again.. ghive it some High res.. looks dumb in low, like an overly large, but blurry kids plush toy)
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sabre906
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Posted - 2011.04.26 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Moody Fugher In contradiction to general state of p[eople, i think the "looks" are important in a visual experience (i dont want to be blind xD).... id say in this order
-Raven (cos tey are everywhere and make the world look terrible) -Dominix, (give it more detail, but in high res, with sheen) -Imicus/Helois (dont need to explain here lol) -Ibis -Hyperion (remove it's anus shaped wings) -Proteus (give it some wings) -Apoc (It think it looks like an ineffective peg leg):P:P -Phoenix (the blob in the blob) -Machariel (again.. ghive it some High res.. looks dumb in low, like an overly large, but blurry kids plush toy)
This shows that aesthetics are objective, right?
If you think Apoc, Mach and Hyperion are ugly, your opinions contradict majority views, much less being objective. And you missed Moa.
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TuRtLe HeAd
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.04.26 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 26/04/2011 14:55:43 -Dominix - The Space Blob Gotta Go. -Raven - Just never really like it. -Nightmare - Come on Seriously? -Caldari Shuttle - Rofl... -Machariel - It looks fine, but the scaling is way off... its bigger/longer than carriers. -Carriers - Just need to be a bit larger. -Drake - Chuckle -Moa - HAHAHAAHAHAHA. -Caracal - room for improvement.
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Moody Fugher
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Posted - 2011.04.26 15:10:00 -
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I like the moa and the caracal.... -moa looks like it's got a pack of sausages and the morning paper ready to fire at your face :)... - caracal looks quite light and capable of performing HAC duties....
Just that thing on the hype, it's wings.. SHEESH!... anus shaped extension... a.prolapsed.rectum then the Apoc... which shouldn't be flat at the back... and it's got a dodgy flappy paddle thing under it's front, in no way would it win that prize they had other week :P ....And the machariel.. it's BLURRY.. and lacks any real edgyness that a cynabal or dramiel possess.
Although the mach thing would be better if they increased the res somewhat, the hype if it didn't have it's wings, and the apoc woould be fine if it didn't make so many anti-feng shui like mistakes of ultimate failure.
But wat can I say, most people think Christina Aguilra is the hottest, and that you can't have the news unless they are pumping a gazillion adverts and flashing lights in your face... or that, it's important to have a politican that looks like some1 off the movies.. :P... yes i am in the minority, but wat we see.. aint pretty lol ^^^
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Viibl Triibl
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Posted - 2011.04.26 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Viibl Triibl on 26/04/2011 15:46:49 These are the most offensive ships in Eve, in no particular order, and including T2 variants: Dominix, Imicus, Celestis (seriously wtf), Moa
Changes to others are fine, but these represent the very worst looking ships in the game. Worst of the worst? Celetis. I really hope it was made by a blind guy. No excuse otherwise.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.26 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Edited by: TuRtLe HeAd on 26/04/2011 14:55:43 -Dominix - The Space Blob Gotta Go. -Raven - Just never really like it. -Nightmare - Come on Seriously? -Caldari Shuttle - Rofl... -Machariel - It looks fine, but the scaling is way off... its bigger/longer than carriers. -Carriers - Just need to be a bit larger. -Drake - Chuckle -Moa - HAHAHAAHAHAHA. -Caracal - room for improvement.
So...you don't like Caldari ships...
Don't worry, even Caldari don't like Caldari ships.
But you're wrong on the Raven. That's a good looking bird.
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Wedding Peach
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Posted - 2011.04.26 15:44:00 -
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Raven: It looks so...fugly...It lacks the awe of the Rokh and the sleekness of a Scorpion. It just looks....BAD!
Apocalypse: I never liked its design and I'm an Amarr pilot. It's like...someone took a big bite out of it. *Farmer: That's why I'm selling it. It has a big bite out of it*
Typhoon: It looks like someone took a barrel, put some propulsion on it and then put scaffolding on it.
Omen: Is that side thing really necessary?
Caracal: For a missile cruiser, it looks...like someone took the design pages and folded them a few times to make the Caracal.
Magnate: This is really nitpicky....but why are the turrets misplaced? They couldn't put them in an X formation? The same goes for the Harbinger. -------------------------------------------------- I am the Love Angel, Wedding Peach, and I am very displeased by your lack of love! |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.04.26 15:50:00 -
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The last ship to get "improved" by CCP went from a decent design, to a stupid symmetrical coat hanger
Do Not Want.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Scuttle Bunny
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.04.26 16:00:00 -
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I like my star destoyers and mon calamari cruisers... nebulon B-frigs... they all looked pimp
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.04.26 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190 The last ship to get "improved" by CCP went from a decent design, to a stupid symmetrical coat hanger
Do Not Want.
If by 'decent design' you meant a ship that has no business being able to fly straight... Now it at least looks the part.
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Moody Fugher
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Posted - 2011.04.26 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Val'Dore
Originally by: Patient 2428190 The last ship to get "improved" by CCP went from a decent design, to a stupid symmetrical coat hanger
Do Not Want.
If by 'decent design' you meant a ship that has no business being able to fly straight... Now it at least looks the part.
I agree with 2ndary postee... the scorp against the backdrop looks awesome.. how can you hate on that?
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Victor Reznik
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Posted - 2011.04.26 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Reznik on 26/04/2011 16:51:23
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
-Moa - HAHAHAAHAHAHA.
I second, third, fourth and fifth this and that flying fish thing the gallentes swim around space in could use some love and the catalyst looks like it was some thing outta a 30s or 40s sci fi movie. i think in general the gallentes r the worst looking ships
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.04.26 16:54:00 -
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I like the Raven hull, it looks like some great mutated evil bird.
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Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2011.04.26 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Moody Fugher -Proteus (give it some wings)
this. I couldnt work out which end was the front on mine until I turned the MWD on.
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Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
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Posted - 2011.04.26 17:07:00 -
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Ugliest ship?
Moa. Freaking fish of the depths. Hate the fish, hate the ship.
But honestly, i think that all faction / T2 ships should be different. I dont like having ships sharing the same model.
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robocpf1
Minmatar B.O.O.M Obsidian Mining Coalition
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Posted - 2011.04.26 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: robocpf1 on 26/04/2011 17:11:25
Originally by: Victor Reznik Edited by: Victor Reznik on 26/04/2011 16:51:23
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
-Moa - HAHAHAAHAHAHA.
I second, third, fourth and fifth this and that flying fish thing the gallentes swim around space in could use some love and the catalyst looks like it was some thing outta a 30s or 40s sci fi movie. i think in general the gallentes r the worst looking ships
I would imagine you don't like Gallente ships because, like most other human beings on the planet, you like symmetry. Me too. So many Gallente ships aren't symmetrical and it grates on people's nerves, just slightly. Like the Tristan's cockpit on the right arm, what in the world...why not put it in the middle, in the reactor-looking thing. The catalyst looks like an old bomber from WWII that's been condensed into a single wing, and what's with the radar array?
Personal Opinions:
Quick disclaimer...I understand Minmatar ships were designed with the "scrap heap, find anything you can and strap it to a warp drive and some guns" theory in mind. It's part of the game, I accept it and actually like most of the ship designs, however...a couple of them look like they had a complete ship, it looked good, and then they added something which made it look silly. See below.
Nightmare - ugly, yes, but I'd fly it. It makes it more terrifying. It's not supposed to be pretty.
All Caldari Cruisers. I don't see the point. Caracal is alright but looks like you could snap it in half, looks more like something you'd see skimming across the water than flying through space.
Drake - it's just too thin. I love the design, but nowhere do I see enough space for all of those missiles.
Cyclone - little pointy wing tips? :(
Hurricane - alternative to the feet that are stapled along the sides would be nice. Star Destroyer look is cool.
Burst - seriously. come on guys.
Raven - eh. Could use a redesign. The only thing that really gets me with the Raven are the pointy things sticking out of it for no apparent reason.
Naglfar - way too vertical. Wayyy too vertical.
Celestis - enough said.
I would mention the other Gallente cruisers but the "mutated pregnant marine mammal" look with all the smooth green metal is kind of nice. I will say the Exequror could use some slight tweaks.
Tempest - what? The long cockpit outrig makes me sad. Slight redesign needed, I like what they were trying to do with it but I don't like what came out.
Ibis - looks out of place when compared to other Caldari ships, in my opinion.
Brutix - ugly, mean old man chin attached to some wings. Definitely one of the meanest looking ships in EVE, don't know if I would change it though.
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Viibl Triibl
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Posted - 2011.04.26 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: robocpf1
I would imagine you don't like Gallente ships because, like most other human beings on the planet, you like symmetry. Me too. So many Gallente ships aren't symmetrical and it grates on people's nerves, just slightly. Like the Tristan's cockpit on the right arm, what in the world...why not put it in the middle, in the reactor-looking thing. The catalyst looks like an old bomber from WWII that's been condensed into a single wing, and what's with the radar array?
I'm sure most people can accept asymmetry. The truly offensive designs - Celestis, Dominix, Moa - are just fundamentally bad design concepts paired with uninspired, sloppy execution.
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Lidia Prince
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Posted - 2011.04.26 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Lidia Prince on 26/04/2011 18:32:25 There's a lot of REALLY outdated models, some of them are around 11 years old. Barely visible most of the time fighters and fighter-bombers have much more detailed models than most frigate/cruiser/industrial class ships, and that's pretty sad. But at least CCP are slowly, but working on it, they did amazing job with Scorpion and I hope that most of ships will get same treatment sooner or later.
And I really hope that Caldari will be first in polishing queue. Drake, Rokh, Tengu, Scorpion, capitals - in my vision that's how their ships should look like. And I hope that the main idea of Raven form will remain as it is, just updated and polished in needed places. It's asymmetric and strange, but has some charisma in it.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.26 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lidia Prince Edited by: Lidia Prince on 26/04/2011 18:32:25 There's a lot of REALLY outdated models, some of them are around 11 years old. Barely visible most of the time fighters and fighter-bombers have much more detailed models than most frigate/cruiser/industrial class ships, and that's pretty sad. But at least CCP are slowly, but working on it, they did amazing job with Scorpion and I hope that most of ships will get same treatment sooner or later.
And I really hope that Caldari will be first in polishing queue. Drake, Rokh, Tengu, Scorpion, capitals - in my vision that's how their ships should look like. And I hope that the main idea of Raven form will remain as it is, just updated and polished in needed places. It's asymmetric and strange, but has some charisma in it.
I would actually say that of all the ships out there, Caldari ones are the most realistic in terms of what spacecraft will look like. Little fluff, simple designs.
...with Gallente being WAY on the other side of the spectrum.
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Lidia Prince
Caldari Caldari Aegis
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Posted - 2011.04.26 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis
Originally by: Lidia Prince Edited by: Lidia Prince on 26/04/2011 18:32:25 There's a lot of REALLY outdated models, some of them are around 11 years old. Barely visible most of the time fighters and fighter-bombers have much more detailed models than most frigate/cruiser/industrial class ships, and that's pretty sad. But at least CCP are slowly, but working on it, they did amazing job with Scorpion and I hope that most of ships will get same treatment sooner or later.
And I really hope that Caldari will be first in polishing queue. Drake, Rokh, Tengu, Scorpion, capitals - in my vision that's how their ships should look like. And I hope that the main idea of Raven form will remain as it is, just updated and polished in needed places. It's asymmetric and strange, but has some charisma in it.
I would actually say that of all the ships out there, Caldari ones are the most realistic in terms of what spacecraft will look like. Little fluff, simple designs.
...with Gallente being WAY on the other side of the spectrum.
Well, yes, that's exactly why I prefer their designs to others. But still, ships like Bantam, Kitsune, Moa or Blackbird look way too bulky and strange for their navy. They're way off Caldari's practical simplicity.
Gallentes... that's just how they were designed, bulky. At least most of their ships are fitting their theme. Just like Minmatar.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.26 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lidia Prince
Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis
Originally by: Lidia Prince Edited by: Lidia Prince on 26/04/2011 18:32:25 There's a lot of REALLY outdated models, some of them are around 11 years old. Barely visible most of the time fighters and fighter-bombers have much more detailed models than most frigate/cruiser/industrial class ships, and that's pretty sad. But at least CCP are slowly, but working on it, they did amazing job with Scorpion and I hope that most of ships will get same treatment sooner or later.
And I really hope that Caldari will be first in polishing queue. Drake, Rokh, Tengu, Scorpion, capitals - in my vision that's how their ships should look like. And I hope that the main idea of Raven form will remain as it is, just updated and polished in needed places. It's asymmetric and strange, but has some charisma in it.
I would actually say that of all the ships out there, Caldari ones are the most realistic in terms of what spacecraft will look like. Little fluff, simple designs.
...with Gallente being WAY on the other side of the spectrum.
Well, yes, that's exactly why I prefer their designs to others. But still, ships like Bantam, Kitsune, Moa or Blackbird look way too bulky and strange for their navy. They're way off Caldari's practical simplicity.
Gallentes... that's just how they were designed, bulky. At least most of their ships are fitting their theme. Just like Minmatar.
Ugh...Minmatar ships are just awful. Like someone went through a space-trash heap with a huge scoop and then made a ship out of whatever they happened to pick up. [except the 'Cane - that's just a sexy ship].
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Raipah
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Posted - 2011.04.26 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Raipah on 26/04/2011 19:00:25 In no particular order
Worst Models - Revenant (looks like a turd) Avatar (too short and stumpy. would be fine if it were stretched a bit) Aeon (first time I saw this I thought my client was bugged) Bellicose
Some other ships I think look kinda weird, off, or derpy, but fit their theme well (the flying scrapheaps, asymmetrical Caldari ships, and glazed play-doh Gallente ships). Few other models I just find boring, notably the Phoenix and the two Minmatar carriers)
Worst Skins - Navy Issue Gallente ships - Fleet Issue Minmatar ships - Any of the eye-searingly bright silver Minmatar ships - New coloring of Sansha ships. The old color scheme was imo one of the best, if not the best in the game, hands down. Now they just look like they're covered in baby poop.
On a side note, I think that the comically large turrets on frigates completely ruin the design of some of the sleeker ones (I'm looking at you Dramiel)
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Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
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Posted - 2011.04.26 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis
I would actually say that of all the ships out there, Caldari ones are the most realistic in terms of what spacecraft will look like. Little fluff, simple designs.
...with Gallente being WAY on the other side of the spectrum.
Guess you meant amarr?
Engines in line with a long ship. Asymetry is a *****, causes a lot more stress on the frame than you would like because engines are pushing different parts of it forward.
'realistic' space ships are much more likely to be long and thin. And have a lot of issue with heat dissipation.
They wont be nearly as exquisite as most we see around in... any space fiction, really.
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Judicator Saturnius
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.04.26 19:49:00 -
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-Drake: waffle iron -Blackbird/Moa: wtf/downs -Raven: so small -Ibis: ugliest noob ship
-Aeon: bisected loaf of bread
-Dominix: Hurf -Imicus/Helios 2.0: Blurf
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.04.26 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Moody Fugher
Originally by: Val'Dore
Originally by: Patient 2428190 The last ship to get "improved" by CCP went from a decent design, to a stupid symmetrical coat hanger
Do Not Want.
If by 'decent design' you meant a ship that has no business being able to fly straight... Now it at least looks the part.
I agree with 2ndary postee... the scorp against the backdrop looks awesome.. how can you hate on that?
Because it went from being asymetrical, pretty unique and visually distinct to...
Coathanger. Symmetry is the worst thing for EVE ship designs ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Irongrin Oldman
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Posted - 2011.04.26 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Irongrin Oldman on 26/04/2011 19:59:22 Well, the Apocalypse looks like something a child would call a horse/dog
Horse:
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Jacob Stov
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Posted - 2011.04.26 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Stov on 26/04/2011 20:15:44 Edited by: Jacob Stov on 26/04/2011 20:14:59 Most ugly ships have to be gallente frigates. I don't even know their name after years of playing eve. Then the Caldari cruisers, with exception of the sleek Caracal. Raven could get a makeover like the Scorp. Proper left wing and moar spikes. And the Nightmare. Kinda looks like a shashlyk. The perfect ship, and then it looks like poo on a stick.
Edit: spelling sucks
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Judicator Saturnius
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.04.26 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Stov
Most ugly ships have to be gallente frigates.
No way, gallente frigates (aside from the imicus) are very sci-fi in that 50's classic way.
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.04.26 20:22:00 -
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I think it's a pretty good consensus that the Moa is the ugliest ship in Eve. I hope that CCP never tries to make it not ugly though. Update it? Sure, but taking away its ugly factor would be like destroying everything the ship has gained a reputation for being.
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Judicator Saturnius
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.04.26 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Franklin Delano Roosevelt I think it's a pretty good consensus that the Moa is the ugliest ship in Eve. I hope that CCP never tries to make it not ugly though. Update it? Sure, but taking away its ugly factor would be like destroying everything the ship has gained a reputation for being.
I have to agree, they should stay ugly until rails are worth using. Otherwise i'll have the urge to fly the eagle.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.26 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Khory Thunderstar
Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis
I would actually say that of all the ships out there, Caldari ones are the most realistic in terms of what spacecraft will look like. Little fluff, simple designs.
...with Gallente being WAY on the other side of the spectrum.
Guess you meant amarr?
Engines in line with a long ship. Asymetry is a *****, causes a lot more stress on the frame than you would like because engines are pushing different parts of it forward.
'realistic' space ships are much more likely to be long and thin. And have a lot of issue with heat dissipation.
They wont be nearly as exquisite as most we see around in... any space fiction, really.
Forgive me if I'm wrong - it's been 14 years since I took Physics...
There is no issue with asymmetrical designs in space because there is no drag in space...and, therefore, no stress on structures/frames.
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Ikarus Gaul
Gallente Eiffel Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.04.26 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis ... There is no issue with asymmetrical designs in space because there is no drag in space...and, therefore, no stress on structures/frames.
Drag is only one of the potential problematic factors, and as you've correctly identified there is no drag in space (setting aside for the moment that space in the Eve cluster seems to exhibit features that are fluidic rather than vacuum).
The real problem is force applied to a large mass. Unless the thrust is balanced against the centre of mass for a ship, it will have a tendency to turn/rotate. Balancing the thrust so that the line of force extends through the centre of mass can be achieved in several ways:
- Simplest: keep the mass of the ship relatively tightly centered around the thrust axis (e.g. Apocalype, Rokh, Typhoon, Megathron), and keep the thruster units tightly centred on the same axis
- More complicated: Position thrusters are various points so that the averaged centre of the trust is on an axis that intersects the centre of the mass.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.26 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ikarus Gaul
Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis ... There is no issue with asymmetrical designs in space because there is no drag in space...and, therefore, no stress on structures/frames.
Drag is only one of the potential problematic factors, and as you've correctly identified there is no drag in space (setting aside for the moment that space in the Eve cluster seems to exhibit features that are fluidic rather than vacuum).
The real problem is force applied to a large mass. Unless the thrust is balanced against the centre of mass for a ship, it will have a tendency to turn/rotate. Balancing the thrust so that the line of force extends through the centre of mass can be achieved in several ways:
- Simplest: keep the mass of the ship relatively tightly centered around the thrust axis (e.g. Apocalype, Rokh, Typhoon, Megathron), and keep the thruster units tightly centred on the same axis
- More complicated: Position thrusters are various points so that the averaged centre of the trust is on an axis that intersects the centre of the mass.
That's a good point. But as you explained, one that can be relatively easily remedied.
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Fredfredbug4
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.26 21:55:00 -
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Sansha ships are giant flying pieces of poop. It's like CCP made them ugly on purpose.
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Theodemir
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.04.26 22:05:00 -
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The Raven is probably one of the better looking battleships in the game; As it actually looks like a ship of war. Antenna's here, something else that's needed to function there. They at least 'tried' to make it symmetrical but no real need... then vola, the bird of prey awaits!
Nearly ALL Minmatar ships I'd class as a joke aesthetically, especially the darn maelstrom. I can't take seriously the notion how it's meant to look like a battleship[ship of war]!? Then the Typhoon, looks like a rough turd but practical and plausible. The Thrasher being their saving grace.
Blackbird/Vexor/Prophecy/Breacher hulls I'd class as needing some immediate design overhaul.
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Richard Faze
Pimpin' Ain't Easy
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Posted - 2011.04.26 22:08:00 -
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Imicus... because of Imicus.
Bad design CCP, BAD!
It looks like a mouldy pita bread with a kickstand.
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Vicker Lahn'se
Minmatar STRAG3S STRAG3S.INC
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Posted - 2011.04.26 22:09:00 -
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All of the t3s are ugly. CCP's attempt at making the modular stuff has resulted in all of the t3s looking very disorganized. They're all just long things with slightly different features jutting off of them depending on what you fit to them. They did an awesome job of giving all the non-t3 hulls a lot of character because they actually had a hull to work on.
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Led Zeppelin420
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Posted - 2011.04.26 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Theodemir The Raven is probably one of the better looking battleships in the game; As it actually looks like a ship of war.
I have to disagree with this. I think most large battle type space ships would look along the lines of the Rokh or Mega. The biggest reason I would think is the target u present your opponent. The Raven is wide and tall its front profile is much larger than say that of the Rokh. |
Saile Litestrider
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Posted - 2011.04.27 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Fredfredbug4 Sansha ships are giant flying pieces of poop. It's like CCP made them ugly on purpose.
I'd hate to see the person who could pass a succubus, phantasm or nightmare without tearing several tender bits of themselves.
The revenant, on the other hand, is just like you say. It's hideous and out of character for Sansha ships.
If you ask me, there are a lot of ugly ships in EVE, and a lot of beautiful ones that are horribly underused. I think it could be remedied, but it would probably take a lot of work. Two in particular that stand out to me are the blackbird, who lost its partner-in-ugly-design, the scorpion, and is now kind of isolated. It used to look almost logical when compared to the scorpion and griffin, but now it looks out of place and dated.
And then there's the poor, poor Helios. It mostly looks bad because it used to be based on the maulus hull, and it looked fantastic. Now it's trapped in the deformed imicus hull.
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LaBuffalo
Nordic Innovations
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Posted - 2011.04.27 02:41:00 -
[44]
Black Bird
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Nyarlothotep
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.04.27 06:17:00 -
[45]
I'm a Gallente pilot and can't stand the Domi, for obvious reasons, and the Brutix, big head and small tail make it look like a giant space sperm...
My favorite 2 ship designs are the Heron and Catalyst. I think the Amarr and Minnie ships fit well to their concepts. Most of the frigs are just awesome. Cruisers look to be a bit sub-par when compared to the rest of the classes.
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Miregar Shakor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.27 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Wedding Peach Typhoon: It looks like someone took a barrel, put some propulsion on it and then put scaffolding on it.
Originally by: robocpf1
Cyclone - little pointy wing tips? :(
Hurricane - alternative to the feet that are stapled along the sides would be nice. Star Destroyer look is cool.
Burst - seriously. come on guys.
Naglfar - way too vertical. Wayyy too vertical.
Tempest - what? The long cockpit outrig makes me sad. Slight redesign needed, I like what they were trying to do with it but I don't like what came out.
Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis Ugh...Minmatar ships are just awful. Like someone went through a space-trash heap with a huge scoop and then made a ship out of whatever they happened to pick up. [except the 'Cane - that's just a sexy ship].
To all of you: SO WHAT? This is what we do. We start out with seriously limited resources and not only we make due, we build serious (and yes, our ships ARE airtight) ships that work! And melt your face in your fancy-ar$e over-engineered space statues in the process.
This is the Minmatar way of space engineering. And we are good at it!
Oh and btw, I *do* like the Moa
OOC: just give us high-res textures and a lot of stuff will be OK.
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Adrian Idaho
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Posted - 2011.04.27 10:56:00 -
[47]
Everything Minmatar. From their shuttles to their freighters and capitals. Without exception.
They even make Gallente turds look good in comparison.
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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.28 08:05:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Miregar Shakor
To all of you: SO WHAT? This is what we do. We start out with seriously limited resources and not only we make due, we build serious (and yes, our ships ARE airtight) ships that work! And melt your face in your fancy-ar$e over-engineered space statues in the process.
This is the Minmatar way of space engineering. And we are good at it!o
Oh and btw, I *do* like the Moa
OOC: just give us high-res textures and a lot of stuff will be OK.
RP Forum is that way --->
P.S. Tempest. The Prosecution rests.
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Implying Implications
Minmatar Autistic Sharks Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.04.28 09:56:00 -
[49]
The Celestis hull gave me cancer.
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Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
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Posted - 2011.04.28 10:15:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis
Originally by: Ikarus Gaul
Originally by: Traejun DiSanctis ... There is no issue with asymmetrical designs in space because there is no drag in space...and, therefore, no stress on structures/frames.
Drag is only one of the potential problematic factors, and as you've correctly identified there is no drag in space (setting aside for the moment that space in the Eve cluster seems to exhibit features that are fluidic rather than vacuum).
The real problem is force applied to a large mass. Unless the thrust is balanced against the centre of mass for a ship, it will have a tendency to turn/rotate. Balancing the thrust so that the line of force extends through the centre of mass can be achieved in several ways:
- Simplest: keep the mass of the ship relatively tightly centered around the thrust axis (e.g. Apocalype, Rokh, Typhoon, Megathron), and keep the thruster units tightly centred on the same axis
- More complicated: Position thrusters are various points so that the averaged centre of the trust is on an axis that intersects the centre of the mass.
That's a good point. But as you explained, one that can be relatively easily remedied.
And that simple remedy creates torsions in the structure, that could having beind avoided completely by using method 1.
Torsions create structural stress. Especially when we are talking about battleship like mass.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.28 11:09:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 28/04/2011 11:14:31
Originally by: Cipher Jones Aesthetics are 100% subjective.
Not really sure if there's no average taste. Make a ship rating contest and let 1,000 people that don't play EVE rate the prettiness.
The ugliest hulls will definitely include: 1. Moa 2. Bellicose
These are really the ugly cows of EVE.
The prettiest hulls will include: 1. Nyx 2. Ashimmu 3. Armageddon
Personally I will never ever fly the following ships because of the eye pains they cause me: Moa, Bellicose, Tempest, the bulkies (Vexor, Dominix, Maller), the silly cut-in-two ships (Crucifier, Aeon) to name a few. Next to that, asymmetry = just plain ugly.
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Viibl Triibl
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Posted - 2011.04.28 18:30:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
The ugliest hulls will definitely include: 1. Moa 2. Bellicose
You were making OK sense until you said Bellicose. It's homely looking for sure, but hardly ugly on the scale of the Celestis, Dominix, Bantam and Moa.
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Xzar Fyrarr
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.04.28 21:35:00 -
[53]
Ugliest Ships ? Typhoon - ... a trashcan with Fire coming out of it's backside. Attractive.
Moa - ...
Naglifar -... too... vertical
Myrmidiron - Too... vertical.
But honestly, I don't "ugly" is the correct term. Amarr ships have their regal imperial design. Caldari have their static militaristic design. Minmatar have scrapyard and duct tape to work with. And Gallente hasth Fail after the Loss of the Pitch Black Navy Megatron.
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Apex Bex
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Posted - 2011.04.29 05:33:00 -
[54]
All of the Caldari cruisers are hateful to look at. The Caracal hull is only just tolerable.
Most of the Gallente fleet (with the exception of the Mega) looks like something I coughed up into a tissue.
What I DO want... a Concord cruiser.... mmmm
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palloides
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Posted - 2011.04.29 16:28:00 -
[55]
Yep. The Drake looks like a flying radiator. I fly the apoc but agree, who on earth would leave a gaping great hole in it, still looking for a decent welder to cover it up for me, extra cargo space would be great.
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DestroyRoid
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Posted - 2011.04.29 16:39:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Captain JeanLuc' Picard does anyone agree with me that some ships need to be redesigned or scrapped and replaced completely ?
name the ugliest ships you hate and think should be re-skinned !
for example the bellicose comes to mind as lazy designing ...
maybe ccp could do more player 'design a new ship' competitions like they did recently
that ship is sexyyyy i do like the reinvented scorpion though giving it its two wings like we all thought it should have
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2manno Halifax
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Posted - 2011.04.29 16:59:00 -
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there's really no need to split hairs on which ship is ugly and which is not.
the bottome line is that most of the people agree that most of the ships are ugly (some amazingly, stupendously, puzzlingly ugly), even if they may disagree on individual ships.
what has to happen here is this: EVE scraps their current designs entirely... perhaps saving some core racial concepts, and redoes them all.
EVE ships as a whole, are the ugliest in any gaming universe. time to redo them all.
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Rijasy
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Posted - 2011.04.29 18:42:00 -
[58]
I don't know... The iconic looks of the ship in this game are a big part of what got me into eve when I first started playing. Even the ugly ones. I'd hate to see them go entirely, or even drstically changed. Though, I would love to see more new designs.
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Lidia Prince
Caldari Caldari Aegis
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Posted - 2011.04.30 06:31:00 -
[59]
Originally by: 2manno Halifax there's really no need to split hairs on which ship is ugly and which is not.
the bottome line is that most of the people agree that most of the ships are ugly (some amazingly, stupendously, puzzlingly ugly), even if they may disagree on individual ships.
what has to happen here is this: EVE scraps their current designs entirely... perhaps saving some core racial concepts, and redoes them all.
EVE ships as a whole, are the ugliest in any gaming universe. time to redo them all.
And also scrap away absolulety beautiful ships like Abaddon? Nope, too radical.
It was proposed in this thread already, the best thing for CCP to do will be making polls after first Incarna will come out. Lets say every week a new poll is started, and in it 4 ships of the same class from each race are proposed for complete redesign. Players will decide which ships should be changed and which ones should just get a polygon and texture lift. After all is done, the next stage of polling starts: CCP will propose various concepts for every ship, so people will decide which one they like the most. If I recall correctly, their designers are already working on them (they said something about Raven on FF Art Panel) , why not give players a little sneak-peek, might be much better than a cat in a bag, no? Of course this is IDEAL way to do something like that, and I highly doubt it will ever happen.
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Sin Raine
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Posted - 2011.04.30 07:17:00 -
[60]
I'm amazed no-one has mentioned the Archon yet, seriously wtf is up with those cylinders hanging off the back of it? whenever there's a fleet engagement and you see one sitting vertically it looks like transformer! The Aeon isn't far behind it and the Phoenix could really use some love also.
PS. New Scorp design is awesome, disappointed with the Rattle however, the design flow from Worm > Gila > Rattle wasn't maintained. Conversely the Widow is now one of the best looking ships in eve (subjective).
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Aglais
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.05 05:12:00 -
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Edited by: Aglais on 05/05/2011 05:14:46
Originally by: Franklin Delano Roosevelt I think it's a pretty good consensus that the Moa is the ugliest ship in Eve. I hope that CCP never tries to make it not ugly though. Update it? Sure, but taking away its ugly factor would be like destroying everything the ship has gained a reputation for being.
IMO it's harshly asymmetrical and frankly strange shape is why it's my favorite hull. >.>
It's ceased to be ugly to me. It's now ugly-cool. I am proud to fly any of the various Moa hulls I own.
I ****ing hate the Drake hull.
Giant steel pancake on a rail.
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Conrad Davanev
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Posted - 2011.05.05 14:33:00 -
[62]
To my mind there are 3 categories:
Ugly: Moa, Dominix, Bellicose, Celestis, Blackbird, Revenant, Imicus, Osprey.
Stupid looking: Moa, Incursus, Bellicose, Imicus, Maller, Sycthe, Vagabond, Tempest
These are excusable to a degree, what is unforgivable is ugly and stupid looking
Moa, Bellicose, Imicus.
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Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov
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Posted - 2011.05.05 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov on 05/05/2011 15:34:25 I think that a certain kind of 'ugly' is quite acceptable.
IRL, look at the American A-10 Thunderbolt. It's not a conventionally pretty plane, but its brutish looks make it seem fearsome and formidable. It looks downright dangerous.
All I'm saying is that when 'ugly' is combined with other attributes it isn't necessarily a bad thing, and can even make a ship appear more intimidating.
I agree though that there are some ugly ships in Eve whose appearances just don't appear to have any redeeming qualities.
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Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.05.05 16:16:00 -
[64]
I like all of the ships to a degree. But most of them could use major texture overhauls.
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Lidia Prince
Caldari Caldari Aegis
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Posted - 2011.05.12 17:43:00 -
[65]
Just bought a Raven for mission running, and Jesus, it looks even more hideous than in model viewer. Please CCP, I beg of you, make us a gift with first Incarna, redesign it, I'm sure you'll be able to save it's unique look and make it fit with new Caldari design (fighter/fb's, Tengu, Scorpion) .
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David Clausewitz
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.12 19:12:00 -
[66]
Apocalypse
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Daniela Darr
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Posted - 2011.05.12 19:15:00 -
[67]
Moa is Mr Ugliest by far, it looks like a turkey someone drove over. Repeatedly.
I'd rather that they made the Tengu, Omen, Apoc, Blackbird hulls prettier though as I don't fly any Moa class ship anyway.
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Barbelo Valentinian
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.12 20:41:00 -
[68]
As someone pointed out above, this is more of a two-part deal - shape and skin.
Before the graphics upgrade a couple of years ago, the Domi used to be really, really ugly. Both a space-turd shape and a nondescript skin.
But now that the skin has more detail, it actually looks quite nice. It's a blob shape overall, sure, but it has lots of intriguing bits and pieces on it, quite pretty to spin.
Similarly, some of the Caldari skins just look old, out of proportion (giant "cockpits"), etc., whereas the actual shapes are quite cool for the Caldari concept - angular, modular, pragmatic-looking.
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Sonya Kranz
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Posted - 2011.05.12 23:20:00 -
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A few of the ugliest ships i can think of right now are: imicus ibis moa bellicose
I really dislike the drake design as well, but wouldnt qualify it as needing a redesign. And there are a lot more ugly t1 frigate designs i cant be bothered to remember the names off, but noone flies those things longer then a week anyway lol
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Aglais
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.12 23:34:00 -
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It makes me sad that the Moa is in almost all of these posts, whereas the Blackbird and Drake, which I personally think are both slightly worse, are only in two or three.
Leave the Moa alone guys. If you think it's ugly, don't fly it.
Or fly a Gila instead. I swear, even just palette swapping and adding some (rather pointless) camo really made the hull for me.
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Daniela Darr
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Posted - 2011.05.13 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Daniela Darr on 13/05/2011 09:37:49
Originally by: Aglais Leave the Moa alone guys. If you think it's ugly, don't fly it.
I think it's extremely ugly and I don't fly it because of that. If it looked better I'd get myself an Onyx. No way I'm flying that .. thing .. now!
As I don't want to be restricted I'd rather see CCP change the Moa hull and make it a viable - aesthetic - alernative to a Broadsword.
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.05.13 10:07:00 -
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Don't change the moa!
That everyone hates it is a lovely thing.
A proper Moa is beatiful for producing "OMGWTFISTHATDOINGWHYISAMOAATTACKINGARGH!" moments.
No one expects the Spanish inquisition ... or a Moa applying 500dps:
[Moa, LOLMOA] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II
Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Invulnerability Field II
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x3
EHP: 37k. 88dps passive tank. Resists 73/74/80/84 DPS: 498 oh 456 if you drop to RF EMP to gain your tracking.
Perfect for being the 'surprise DPS ship' when your gang tackles a Drake. Top damage dealer on a KM using a Moa? Classic.
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Daniela Darr
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Posted - 2011.05.13 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Go Diveher Don't change the moa!
That everyone hates it is a lovely thing. A proper Moa is beatiful for producing "OMGWTFISTHATDOINGWHYISAMOAATTACKINGARGH!" moments. No one expects the Spanish inquisition ... or a Moa applying 500dps:
EHP: 37k. 88dps passive tank. Resists 73/74/80/84 DPS: 498 oh 456 if you drop to RF EMP to gain your tracking.
Perfect for being the 'surprise DPS ship' when your gang tackles a Drake. Top damage dealer on a KM using a Moa? Classic.
Well if you change the look it's exactly the same, only more aethetically pleasing ;)
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.05.13 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Daniela Darr Well if you change the look it's exactly the same, only more aethetically pleasing ;)
It's the SURPRISE factor that makes the Moa fun. Make it pretty and people will stop overlooking it.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2011.05.13 11:00:00 -
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My Helios looks like a disabled hockey player. Every time i look at it i get sick.
Nuff said.
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David Arancourt
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Posted - 2011.05.25 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: David Arancourt on 25/05/2011 20:01:46 Edited by: David Arancourt on 25/05/2011 20:01:10 Edited by: David Arancourt on 25/05/2011 20:00:33 I'd say both the textures and models of the majority of ships need a massive overhaul.
At worst, when ships have poor textures (thinking Dominix), the grandeur of size and scale is lost since there are no reference points with which we can identify- a Bridge, docking bays, whatever.
Most of the best looking ships in game are just the opposite; on the Harpy or Rifter we can clearly see a cockpit location, and picture the scale from that. The Incursus is an example of a great model ship, yet awful texture-intuitively it looks and feels like a 20 foot long ship... 82m, just short of a football field? Give me a break!
As for asymmetrical ship design, there's nothing wrong with it, except maybe that in Eve asymmetrical seems to be the norm, not the exception- 3 races favor it, 1 doesn't- and I'm sure I'm not the only Eve player who was frustrated starting off with the choice of balanced ships/slave trader backstory.
To the guy that said there's beauty in ugliness, sure. But I'd say most eve ships totally miss that point, there still needs to be a semblance of practicality.
AH-64 Ugly, yet balanced and looks badass.
Raven Whuuutt?
To those that say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I can't tell you what you find appealing, but I would guess if people were actually honest with themselves, they usually like these non-traditional designs only out of a desire for non-conformity; eg, if everyone thought Amy Winehouse was the most attractive woman on earth, those same people would suddenly take a liking to the Heidi Klums of the world.
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Moatra
Minmatar Demi-Goth
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Posted - 2011.05.26 02:36:00 -
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Maller...
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Tentacle Monster
New Eden Trade Union
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Posted - 2011.05.26 08:40:00 -
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Gallente ships range from mildly interesting (Hyperion) to visually offensive (Domi looks like a piece of crap). That organic feel overall doesn't look good to me, too topsy-turvy.
There's also something that really bothers me about the Harbinger on low shader settings. The texture looks all screwed up, just dull and ugly.
Minmatar ships... do they really need to be that rusty-looking? I know they're utilitarian, but is there any good reason for the coloration? Maybe the Minnies don't do much maintenance so the outermost layer of armor gets rusted, I dunno.
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Sister Lumi
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.26 09:13:00 -
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Gallente ships are a rather mixed bag, we have the sexiest hulls*, and some of the biggest failures. I'd like to add Iterons to the usual suspects, especially III and V are just terrible.
Vexor has also poor texture, otherwise it is cool. Please get rid of the stupid camo paint on the Gallente Navy editions!
And like someone mentioned, every ship in game really deserves a unique hull - reusing t1 hulls for all variants feels lazy and unrealistic. They could follow the same design cues, but be evolved versions. Forget cockpits and windows, these are pod ships. Ships need love to be on par with Incarna stuff!
* Mega, Hype, Incursus, Nyx, Tristan, Brutix (it's badass, I have one just for the looks as it's a nearly useless ship) and the best design in game: Maulus. Ominous, balanced, sleek. <3
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Buzzmong
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.05.26 10:31:00 -
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Another ugly ships thread eh?
The Moa is the worst cruiser, along with the other Caldari cruisers. The Celestis and Exequror are both horrid as well though.
A couple of the Minmatar frigates are horrible, but the hands down worst frigate is the current Helios. The Imicus is bad, but the lighter coloured silver and green skin on the Helios make it looks even worse. Odd considering the same colour scheme on the Malus (one of the best frigs imo) worked fine when that ship was used as the base model.
Certain ships do need a spruce up though. Raven looks awesome and bird of prey like, but does need tweaking and reskinning. Vexor needs a high res skin and more detail.
I don't get the Apoc hate in this thread though, the Golden Banana looks amazing, and hopefully CCP will add the missing thruster effects at some point (just underneath the main top thruster are 3 horizontal ones that lack fx). --------------------------------- Go Web! Go! |
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Swynet
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Posted - 2011.05.26 11:32:00 -
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There are so many awful stuff can't name them all. I'll just let here the Dominix and the Proteus look has the worst ever in game
Those I most like?
-Nyx sticks to the img we can expect from some spaceship, awesome enough to feed your account and train for it no matter the performances.
-Megathron weird form when you look at it from the front, but when you look it from the side he's just splendid, you want one of these
-Thorax hull, that one deserves a lot of "sexy" names but still awesome design, unfortunately their performances are plain crap
-Brutix hull, while the base one has a nice look and paint job, even if it can easily be improved, the Eos and Astarte paint job is plain crap has the performances, but is all related to the magnificent awesome idea of blasters mechanics like in almost every Gallente hull
-Tengu, with the good subs this ship looks awesome, have one just for it's look! (yes I'm lying)
-Loki, like it enough to name it
-Armageddon, with the Bhaalgorn paint job he's aggressive enough to please
-The incoming Minmatar Battleship, trained Minmatar battleships at 4 just for that one
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Nikki Sanderson
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Posted - 2011.05.26 13:41:00 -
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I'm really glad that CCP doesn't listen to those cries of "ugly, change it!", because taste is subjective, and I for one love the Exequror hull and wish it was a better ship so that you could actually use it (besides the Oneiros of course).
I don't think that spaceships have to be perfectly symmetric to look good, that's why the Thorax is also one of my favourite hulls.
Brutix is sexy, too. Myrm I hated when I started playing, but it grew on me, a lot. Curiously also the Moa-hull did, I don't hate the looks of it that much anymore. The Caldari line-up remains the ugliest line-up in game though The Raven, omfg, the ugly, it hurts.
I also like the Cruor and the Ashimmu a lot. For sexiest overall it's a tie between Armageddon and Machariel.
Oh wait, forgot the Providence. I wish that hull wasn't a freighter, it's drop dead gorgeous.
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Irulan Corinno
Caldari 714th SQN - Snowflakes
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Posted - 2011.05.26 13:46:00 -
[83]
We need a ugliest ship of EVE contest!
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BiggestT
Caldari Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2011.05.26 15:14:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Apex Bex a Concord cruiser.... mmmm
Pretty sure CCP should sue Bioware 'cause that looks exactly like the Geth of Mass Effect yet EVE was around first..!
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Rytell Tybat
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Posted - 2011.05.26 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rytell Tybat on 26/05/2011 20:10:16 Imicus is the worst. The Moa is a close second but its almost cool as a result of just how ugly it is. Love the vexor, but hate the smiley face on the front.
For anyone complaining about the Maller hull, its days are seemingly numbered.
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Tentacle Monster
New Eden Trade Union
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Posted - 2011.05.26 21:58:00 -
[86]
Those saying the Moa is ugly - have you seen the Crucifier?
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.27 04:44:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Tentacle Monster Those saying the Moa is ugly - have you seen the Crucifier?
If they glue the other half back to where they cut it in two it looks quite decent I guess .. but agreed it looks silly, same as the Aeon.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.27 06:38:00 -
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Moa is one of the best design by far , not like the fugly boring caracal. Oh and those camo skins are crap. I would never use them if there was an option to do so.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Vengeance Industrial Militia
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Posted - 2011.05.27 06:54:00 -
[89]
I really wish that the Caldari Ships still had letters and numbers on them, as well as red markings. Those looked awesome.
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Nikki Sanderson
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Posted - 2011.05.27 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rytell Tybat New Maller?
Man I wish they'd stop changing up the models. Updating textures and models to higher res with more polygons/texture detail is fine, but altering the whole ship as they did with the Scorp rubs me the wrong way.
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Digital Messiah
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Posted - 2011.05.27 07:43:00 -
[91]
Oh god someone help! I rolled minmatar, and now i have tetanus!?!
Quote: Don't Panic
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ColdCutz
Gallente Pwny Nation
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Posted - 2011.05.27 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: ColdCutz on 27/05/2011 08:17:11
Originally by: Nikki Sanderson
Originally by: Rytell Tybat New Maller?
Man I wish they'd stop changing up the models. Updating textures and models to higher res with more polygons/texture detail is fine, but altering the whole ship as they did with the Scorp rubs me the wrong way.
NO I hope they don't stop changing up models! Yeah I liked the old Scorp's asymmetry too, but holy crap that new Maller model looks incredibly sexy! I will by all means crosstrain the hell out of Amarr Cruiser if they end up deploying that gorgeous piece of work.
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WhatsforDiner
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Posted - 2011.06.03 11:03:00 -
[93]
MOA!!!!!...nough said
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Fi1ippo
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Posted - 2011.06.03 11:03:00 -
[94]
I always thought the Hyperion was fugly
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Inquisitor Bernardo Gui
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Posted - 2011.06.03 11:06:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Digital Messiah Oh god someone help! I rolled minmatar, and now i have tetanus!?!
I'm afraid so .. the heathens haven't discovered hygiene yet ..
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Malcom Solette
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Posted - 2011.06.03 23:03:00 -
[96]
Rupture without a doubt. It looks like a really big power tool. Like a handheld drill.
Or a nailgun.
It's hideous. And my Iteron looks like a weiner.
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Mabah Vin
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Posted - 2011.06.04 12:10:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Mabah Vin on 04/06/2011 12:10:15 One would think that for such advance races spending most of their time in space, along with cloning, space stations etc..they would have some pride in the looks of their ships.
I suppose design is not their forte'.
No wonder they're clones. : P
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Techno Panda
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Posted - 2011.06.04 14:28:00 -
[98]
How about make the Navy Amarr ships more pretty.
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Khavi Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.06.04 22:13:00 -
[99]
Ugly ships of EVE? LOL! Almost all of them? No really, this game has maybe a couple that look decent, the rest are not appealing at all. I cannot believe the humans in 30k years will have lost all taste of aesthetics.
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Laura Kingsley
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.04 22:29:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Ugly ships of EVE? LOL! Almost all of them? No really, this game has maybe a couple that look decent, the rest are not appealing at all. I cannot believe the humans in 30k years will have lost all taste of aesthetics.
QFT
That one or two manufacturers make ships for mere practicality I can understand. That ALL manufacturers make mostly ugly ships is silly. Especially Amarr.
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VKhaun Vex
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Posted - 2011.06.05 00:25:00 -
[101]
Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 05/06/2011 00:34:53 Osprey = space weevil. Apoc = Space manatee with shark bites out of it's belly.
The Minmatar don't deserve any graphic upgrades while they insist on naming their cargo freighter the FENRIR. Google Fenrir once. A giant viscous fighting wolf... hey lets name our CARGO FREIGHTER WITH NO GUNS AFTER THAT!!! yeah they can keep their stupid fin pannels and junkyard hulls. Punishment from the gods, nothing less.
I get that Caldari are supposed to be blocky and chunky high-tech machinery looking ships, but they need more moving widgets to pull off the effect. The spinny thing on the scorpion is good. More stuff like that.
Camo paint is ridiculous. I don't know who thought that was a good idea in space but it makes the game look like amateur night when the FW navy ships show up looking ready to sneak through the jungle.
Some ships have really bad turret placement. The harbinger's final turret one on top and one under the right side looks very out of place. Some ships based on other ships' hull retain the hard point markers for turrets but can't fill them and that irks me. Either they left them there and can use them, or they took them off and you shouldn't see them. It's silly to leave them there like they've just been forgotten on a giant battleship that takes so long and so much ISK to make.
Clipping with the ship bothers me, too. The Omen shooting straight ahead fires through it's beak. I'm sure there are other examples.
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Galen Silas
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.06.05 03:09:00 -
[102]
This reminds me, when are they going to place the ships that won the contest in the game? Yes, i love stating my opinion... because people don't like it! |
Seminole Sun
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Posted - 2011.06.05 04:35:00 -
[103]
I'm not sure what's up with all the gallente hate
The dominix totally looks like what I'd expect a space "carrier" to look like The helios reminds me of a certain bounty hunter's searching space ship And the Megathron is the coolest, most badass model in the game I can understand the gripes about the Celestis but it doesn't really bother me
The Drake looks like a space manufacturing yard not a spaceship The Vigil doesn't look like a spaceship at all... is it a lighthouse? A bouy? wtf? Frankly, most of the minny frigates could use some help The hyperion doesn't strike me as particularly gallente The arbitrator looks more caldari then amarr (in fact, the curse could easily pass for a caldari ship) The tormentor looks like a space maggot
Those are my big gripes
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Cpt Fina
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2011.06.05 05:47:00 -
[104]
It's not the ugliest ship out there but it was the biggest let-down. The Hyperion. While the other races got really cool looking tier 3 BS the hyperion looks like a giant turd with... i dont know it's just butt-ugly.
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Jax Rifter
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Posted - 2011.06.05 07:28:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Cpt Fina It's not the ugliest ship out there but it was the biggest let-down. The Hyperion. While the other races got really cool looking tier 3 BS the hyperion looks like a giant turd with... i dont know it's just butt-ugly.
I think it's one of the cooler ships out there.
As someone who just decided to roll Minmatar I'm making a choice to never fly one of their cruisers. Yes I know they are some of the best ships in the game but OH MY GOD did they get someone's kid to make those models?
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Valerius Kavees
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Posted - 2011.06.05 09:03:00 -
[106]
i think the ugliest ships i've seen so far
-Dominix, it's like an old bull -Raven, got your wings torned? more aesthetics please -Machariel, i dont know but somewhat it looks ugly for me.. - Ibis, for the sake of newbies please remake this ship - Most of gallente frigs. well can't be helped..
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VKhaun Vex
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Posted - 2011.06.05 09:08:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Cpt Fina It's not the ugliest ship out there but it was the biggest let-down. The Hyperion. While the other races got really cool looking tier 3 BS the hyperion looks like a giant turd with... i dont know it's just butt-ugly.
I really liked the Hyperion in the market preview until I realized all it's guns were at it's extreme ends. It looks alright until it shoots at something. The particle effects of it shooting just look really odd to me.
I'm agree and was surprised people said the Abaddon. I love the look of that one and I hate that it doesn't fit at all with my skill plan.
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Sirinda
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Posted - 2011.06.05 11:01:00 -
[108]
Personally, I'd like to see the Megathron model changed.
Its bow is way too huge compared to the rest of the ship, and that tube on its left side also looks weird IMO. Other than that, I'd still take the current model as a baseline from which to evolve. Like they did with the Maller.
And face it, the Megathron ship model doesn't do the new turrets justice.
Other than that, Caldari. Most of their ships look like being high on LSD is mandatory for Caldari engineers.
And Minmatar. Seriously. Except for the Hurricane, all of their ships look like trashheaps with bolted-on turrets and engines.
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.05 11:13:00 -
[109]
If they'd make my Tengu look like an Ashimmu I would be perfectly happy ^^
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Gaz'Gaz
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Posted - 2011.06.07 09:51:00 -
[110]
cheetah / probe is awfull, i dont understand why cheetah changed for probe hull, vigil hull was nicer. now i dont like to fly it.
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Saile Litestrider
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Posted - 2011.06.07 13:40:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Seminole Sun The helios reminds me of a certain bounty hunter's searching space ship
It sounds to me like you haven't looked at a helios in a few years. They changed it from a Maulus hull to an Imicus hull a while back, in 2008 I think. Yes, they used to look like that, but now they look completely different and horrible, like a crippled hockey player.
Originally by: VKhaun Vex I'm agree and was surprised people said the Abaddon. I love the look of that one and I hate that it doesn't fit at all with my skill plan.
Me too. I can't think of a single thing I would do to improve the Abaddon. The armor plates, the weapon banks, the "landing strip" lights that signify "this is where the hurt comes from", I think it's the overall best looking ship in EVE, especially when you pull up broadside along a slow moving target and unleash brightly colored light-based hell.
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Exordium8
Minmatar Not a Shell Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.07 21:35:00 -
[112]
I like the look of Minnie ships personally. Except the bellicose. That thing's a sin.
Ofc the Mia is bad, but I think the Aeon/Archon are the worst. The archon looks like a flying textbook with little claws, or a skate egg case (Google it).
The Aeon, well, when I first saw one in game I restarted my client. Couldn't figure out why a quarter of the ship wasn't rendering. I couldn't believe a ship would look like that. It looks like 75% of a narwhal. --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
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Slymah
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.10 10:50:00 -
[113]
Whats going on with people not liking the Bellicose? I love the look of that ship!
Anyhow my vote for ugliest ship in EVE goes to the Scythe hull
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Kate Rygel
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:10:00 -
[114]
Nearly every ship in eve is ugly/horrible. Most of them look like one of the devs fourth grade kids built them (must have been low on funds at startup :) )
There are a few that are decent, and zero that are great awe inspiring masterpieces. CCP definately needs to hire some top notch, sci-fi oriented designers. Which after seeing the new turrets they mave have actually done. Even with an awesome designer they will need to let that guy/gal change the 'feel' of the old ships/designs. Forcing them to keep making ugly ass blobs for galente, as an example, isn't going to get you some great new designs.
I just came back to Eve after a couple years off and some of them look like they have changed, not always for the better
a few decent ship examples: Widow - New one, even if Black Ops are pretty crappy ships. And no the scorp isn't on this list because the pain job matters!!
Executioner - probably the sleekest looking ship around, still not top notch though
Rifter - How they managed to make a pile of scaffolding look this aggressive is beyond me
Hurricane -- I remember this looking cooler did they change it or am I just getting spoiled by the quality of newer generation graphics in other games? Looks alot thinner now than i remember. tengu, legion, proteus are also decent, not as good as i hoped for being recent additions to the game. Some configurations look down right aweful though.
harbinger, Geddon, Thrasher could be decent looking ships with a Res. increase on both the model and textures. (for gods sake no more camo in space!)
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.10 13:26:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Kate Rygel Nearly every ship in eve is ugly/horrible. There are a few that are decent, and zero that are great awe inspiring masterpieces.
Fully agreed!
Decent in my opinion: Retribution, Malediction, Curse, Geddon, new maller looks ok too, Khanid paint jobs are great. Caldari does not have a single decent looking ship. Hyperion looks ok imo, Thorax isn't too bad. Hurricane is a nice looking ship. And that's basically it for the subcaps, the rest gets below 6/10 for aesthetics.
The Ashimmu looks actually very nice, it's my favourite hull.
Imo, if one thing it's definitely not the pretty ships that attracts new players!
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Lars Zundi
Saints of Azura
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Posted - 2011.06.10 16:22:00 -
[116]
Originally by: VKhaun Vex
Osprey = space weevil.
The navy osprey is even uglier (and less useful!).. which goes to prove the old quote:
When faced with a bad choice, a man must always choose the lesser of two weevils. |
Isaac Freeman
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Posted - 2011.06.11 00:03:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Kate Rygel Nearly every ship in eve is ugly/horrible.
I reject The Myrmidon took my heart the first time I saw it ingame. One day, I will also fly it, even if it was the worst ship in the whole space |
Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.06.11 02:11:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Omara Otawan on 11/06/2011 02:12:38
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Cipher Jones Aesthetics are 100% subjective.
Not really sure if there's no average taste. Make a ship rating contest and let 1,000 people that don't play EVE rate the prettiness.
(...)
The prettiest hulls will include: 1. Nyx 2. Ashimmu 3. Armageddon
I wouldnt be so sure, when showing EVE (and the ships) to friends the opinions seem to be vastly different from those of the players.
For example, from all the capitals and supercapitals only a single person (a huge fan of the star wars movies, so that might explain it; he also did like the Machariel which not many did) ever picked the Nyx as being pretty. By far the most popular ones being the Nidhoggur and Providence.
Battleships, the Maelstrom typically took the cake, followed by Hyperion and Apocalypse.
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Malcolm Faust
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Posted - 2011.06.15 20:15:00 -
[119]
Once got attacked by some idiot in a Moa, I kept trying to orbit in my Jag, but I couldn't figure out which way the SOB was going, so I warped off. Moa gets my vote for fugliest ship.
The Gallente... uhh, they all look like polished turds. Shiny green space-poo.
Osprey is a tick, not a space weevil.
Always thought the Drake and Hurricane should be bolted together. Like space voltron. (CCP please don't do ths... epic suck)
As far as physics and ships with unbalanced propulsion. You're playing a sci-fi game, maybe you can suspend reality for while.
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LiSung
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Posted - 2011.06.15 21:36:00 -
[120]
Raven: Make it symetrical. It looks wounded. Moa: Dear god throw it out and start over Legion: Just the emergent locus analyzer subsystem. It looks so out of place on that ship.
Many of the lumpy, tumor-ridden Gallente ships. Not all (I rather like the catalyst for some reason) but a lot of them just look...wrong.
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OllieNorth
Gallente Interstellar Entrepreneurs
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Posted - 2011.06.15 21:41:00 -
[121]
I've always thought (much to my misery) that the four best looking ships in the game are the four shuttles. Well, ok, maybe not Gallente. But really, the Amarr shuttle is badass looking. Other than that, pretty much all ugly. Especially the f'n Moa, still makes me shudder.
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Kagumichan
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Posted - 2011.06.16 02:09:00 -
[122]
I've always had a bit of a love/hate thing for Drakes, as in I love to hate it. I joined Eve to fly spaceships, not overly large paper-weights or giant football shin-pads.
The Moa too, it's like an origami crane that someone stepped on.
Seems a few people don't like the Nightmare design though, though I agree it's probably not practical and a little weird, if CCP implimented collision physics, a Nightmare would insta-kill anything it crashed into, and that possibility, although very unlikely, does add to it's visual appeal (or if you play Warhammer 40k and like Dark Eldar, the Nightmare is TOTALLY your ship)
After watching the first weekend of Alliance Tournament 9 though I've reached the point where looking at the Cyclone hull is starting to make me feel like throwing up, not only are they using too many of them but they have to be the most boring looking spaceship design ever created (yeah, a rectangle with solar panels glued to the side, seriously?)
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Milia Jenius
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.06.18 11:47:00 -
[123]
Celestis/Arazu/Lachesis win the fugly contest hands down Vigil is closely second Aeon... please finish building the other side, or leaving a gorge in the middle while making it symmetical would be nice too
Moa is fine it is, never found it ugly
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Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.06.18 12:36:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Devil''s Call on 18/06/2011 12:39:22 For some reason, I can't help but notice a few 'weird' things about the machariel. Don't get me wrong, I love the ship, and think it's one of the coolest/meanest looking battleships, but here...
-The back of it looks like an escalator. (Electric stairways) -It's so ****ing big, yet lightning fast. It looks like some sort of flying brick of solid concrete. (I can't help it but to keep thinking of it's hull as a concrete one... o.O) -So ye, a flying concrete space bunker as fast as lightning.
Now my question to you; 'Are there magnets or magic involved?'
Edit: There's this very little bridge on top of the machariel next to the left exhaust, which... I mind you, looks like a concrete bunker aswell. One of those which they build in normandy to protect the coast. Now what's inside the rest of it's gigantic massive hull...? For that _OBSCURE_ reason, I love the machariel... One of my guesses is that they have an army of their own minmatar slaves working in there, 24/7, to power some sort of big V-Over9000 engine.
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Anne Arqui
Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:28:00 -
[125]
Originally by: LiSung Many of the lumpy, tumor-ridden Gallente ships. Not all (I rather like the catalyst for some reason) but a lot of them just look...wrong.
They say they look organic but imo they look more like they came out of something organic ..
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