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Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2011.10.03 19:45:00 -
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Pretty much land ontop of your target if you can (else overheat your web, scram and ab to get in range fast). Orbit tightly and start ripping him a new one with anti matter + Rockets + drone. Use the repper as needed - either you'll die before you cap out or he will. It's the balls to the wall way of fighting. |
Shayla Sh'inlux
Eve Space Exploration Guild
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Posted - 2011.10.07 15:22:00 -
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Zoe Alarhun wrote:That's not entirely accurate Shayla Sh'inlux:
Gallente Drone ships are very good for running missions. Vexor >Myrmidon>Dominix progression.
Hybrids are prefectly fine for assault ships, inties, frigs, etc.
Medium Hybrids are even pretty decent see thorax, brutix, Myrmidon.
The Neut domi is fearsome in pvp, and megathrons can still do some pretty evil stuff.
I don't think you've used gallente ships and are simply jumping onto the minmatar is teh bestest ever and gallente can't do anything bandwagon.
Actually I can almost fly nothing but Gallente. I've sank 13 million SP into Gunnery and can only shoot hybrids. I've devoted about 20 million skillpoints in Space Ship Command to stuff that is related to Gallente although I eventually branched out to Caldari and trained an alt into Winmatar. Heck, I even maxed out the (prretty useless) Leadership skills that the (even more useless) Eos is bonused on.
I've had my months of utter domination when Nosferatus were broken beyond belief or when the Thorax still had a ridonculous drone bay or when oversized Afterburners would actually make sense on an inty. But those months are incomparable to the joys that Winmatar have been getting in the Nanofag period and have been enjoying for the past //years// after the totally overdone projectile buff.
Gallente used to be insanely good a few years ago, but every other race/gun type around them has been buffed way above that level, while drones, hybrids and -most important- MWDs got nerfed. Their ships and guns have been useless for years and posts like yours are are just people trying to justify 2 years worth of training time into useless crap.
Winmatar is by a LONG shot the very best at everything that is PvP. Similarly, Caldari is by a LONG shot the very best at PvE, until you get into faction boats or Marauders, where ships that shoot projectile turrets are once again themost efficient (think Mach and Vargur here). The obvious progression for PvE is basically Kestrel -> Caracal -> Drake -> Tengu. That is actually reasonably quick to train and once you get there, you can devote 100% of your training time into Winmater and PROjectiles and be good at everything related to FiS. |
Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2011.10.08 06:49:00 -
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The last kill on your battleclinic with that character is more than 2 years ago. Do you still actively PVP or are you going off your experience from when you used to pvp ? Also I've only training gallente for about 2.5 months now, I actually trained away from minmatar.
Regardless of what you say - people actively pvping will agree that:
Small hybrids are fine and gallente have many frigs that are fine. Ishkur, Tristan, Incursus, Enyo, Taranis etc
If you are in to PVE stuff the progression from Frig/catalyst to Vexor, Myrmidon, Dominix is good. (senty domi with full rack of guns is good damage wise and you can finish missions in an fun and efficient manner).
Gallente Faction frigs are also good - dare devil does crazy damage and looks awesome.
If he wants to tank level 5's he can train into a rattlesnake since he's half way there from domi.
The gila makes a pretty awesome PVE ship as well for missions and exploration.
Because you fly gallente you are more likely to get fights in low sec because people underestimate you.
Many pieces of hybrid equipment are cheaper due to lower demand.
Many Gallente ships are cheaper than their counterparts.
This makes losses easier in the beginning when you are learning and don't have a crazy income.
Since the OP stated a desire to carry on using his frigate now, expecially for learning PVP there is nothing bad about them.
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m0cking bird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.08 10:53:00 -
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Pretty much all destroyers out class navy faction frigates, pirate faction frigates, Interceptors and most t2 frigates. At least, when it comes to direct combat.
I've flown them all. Personally I think the Coercer and Thrasher are on another level compared to the others, but the Cormorant and Catalyst are still more than worth it for the price.
There is only 2 assault ships that I would use over a Thrasher or Coercer. Ishkur and Retribution. The rest don't seem worth it. On the Interceptor side I only use the Taranis and Stiletto, but for direct combat I prefer destroyers, because of cost and performance.
They're cheap to lose and do ALOT of damage. You can pull off 400dps setups if you want to go more ganky, but this one does 300dps 2 optimal (provided you can track), with antimatter. @ 8k with null loaded the turrets do 100dps alone. With a damage drone it does 120dps @ 8k.
[Catalyst, Blast It!]
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Hornet EC-300 x1 |
Shayla Sh'inlux
Eve Space Exploration Guild
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:04:00 -
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Zoe Alarhun wrote:The last kill on your battleclinic with that character is more than 2 years ago. Do you still actively PVP or are you going off your experience from when you used to pvp ?
I obviously don't PvP on this character anymore. I have a proper Minmatar alt for that.
Quote:
Regardless of what you say - people actively pvping will agree that:
Small hybrids are fine and gallente have many frigs that are fine. Ishkur, Tristan, Incursus, Enyo, Taranis etc
If you are in to PVE stuff the progression from Frig/catalyst to Vexor, Myrmidon, Dominix is good. (senty domi with full rack of guns is good damage wise and you can finish missions in an fun and efficient manner).
Gallente Faction frigs are also good - dare devil does crazy damage and looks awesome.
If he wants to tank level 5's he can train into a rattlesnake since he's half way there from domi.
The gila makes a pretty awesome PVE ship as well for missions and exploration.
Because you fly gallente you are more likely to get fights in low sec because people underestimate you.
Many pieces of hybrid equipment are cheaper due to lower demand.
Many Gallente ships are cheaper than their counterparts.
This makes losses easier in the beginning when you are learning and don't have a crazy income.
Since the OP stated a desire to carry on using his frigate now, expecially for learning PVP there is nothing bad about them.
Regardless of what *you* say, if the OPs intention is to PvP it makes *no sense whatsoever* to train Gallente boats because Minmatar hulls and projectiles completely outclass them in *every* way. If you're a young character that doesn't already have months or years of training in certain ship or gun classes the *only* correct advice is "train Minmatar".
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Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2011.10.08 17:03:00 -
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Shayla Sh'inlux wrote:Zoe Alarhun wrote:The last kill on your battleclinic with that character is more than 2 years ago. Do you still actively PVP or are you going off your experience from when you used to pvp ?
I obviously don't PvP on this character anymore. I have a proper Minmatar alt for that. Quote:
Regardless of what you say - people actively pvping will agree that:
Small hybrids are fine and gallente have many frigs that are fine. Ishkur, Tristan, Incursus, Enyo, Taranis etc
If you are in to PVE stuff the progression from Frig/catalyst to Vexor, Myrmidon, Dominix is good. (senty domi with full rack of guns is good damage wise and you can finish missions in an fun and efficient manner).
Gallente Faction frigs are also good - dare devil does crazy damage and looks awesome.
If he wants to tank level 5's he can train into a rattlesnake since he's half way there from domi.
The gila makes a pretty awesome PVE ship as well for missions and exploration.
Because you fly gallente you are more likely to get fights in low sec because people underestimate you.
Many pieces of hybrid equipment are cheaper due to lower demand.
Many Gallente ships are cheaper than their counterparts.
This makes losses easier in the beginning when you are learning and don't have a crazy income.
Since the OP stated a desire to carry on using his frigate now, expecially for learning PVP there is nothing bad about them.
Regardless of what *you* say, if the OPs intention is to PvP it makes *no sense whatsoever* to train Gallente boats because Minmatar hulls and projectiles completely outclass them in *every* way. If you're a young character that doesn't already have months or years of training in certain ship or gun classes the *only* correct advice is "train Minmatar".
Hybrid buff incoming in winter expansion.
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