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Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.30 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Math'ra Hiede
Originally by: Lyn Farel First step toward enlightement : being aware of one's deeds.
Ok. Then what next ? Back to business with a clear conscience ?
While your combative attitude is as predictable as the night and day of Oris, perhaps you could do with a similar self focused.... review.
To answer your question, even though it probably wasn't directed at me:
Enlightenment is something that is quite difficult to simply attribute to a simple path, each soul finds its own path through whatever means are right for them, for us of the Imperial faith - it can be as simple as a lifetime in study and contemplation, or as difficult as a beaten and treacherous path throuh the wilds and darkness to finally see light and redemption.
What I am trying, rather ineptly to convey is a sense that Enlightenment is no set thing and that it is something that cannot simply be assumed but more accurately developed and worked for by a true passion and honest willingness for it.
My question was not aimed at you, indeed.
My question was also not about enlightement.
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Sakura Nihil
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.03.30 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
I would appreciate it if you remove yourself from my thread. It should be clear that my comments were not aimed at you Gorien Wassener. Of my many regrets the complete obliteration of your first alliance is not one of them.
How about you come and try to obliterate his current alliance?
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.30 21:23:00 -
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Disband your alliance and I might consider forgiveness for you. ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.03.30 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjin Mokk A serene setting and a few well-chosen words hardly measures up to the many crimes you've committed Ms. Constantine. Still, you have heard a voice from within and that is important. For what it's worth, I hope you find the peace and redemption you seek. By His Light and His Will.
Well you might be surprised at the things we each consider crimes monsieur Mokk, since I imagine there are some important differences in our respective perceptions there. I am guilty of crimes it is true, but they are probably not the crimes you have in mind. But I thank you for your kind words nonetheless.
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Sudden Eye
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.03.31 01:35:00 -
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I touch myself vigorously at night
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.03.31 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis What can you ever really know of other people's souls - of their temptations, their opportunities, their struggles? One soul in the whole creation you do know: and it is the only one whose fate is connected to your heart.
Perhaps the purpose of life and immortality is to discover what we can know. Or at least discover the colours of the things unknown to us. But what is known is that love worth its weight in wonder and the universe has blessed us both with pleasure and true experience in the dark languages of our touching lips.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.31 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine But what is known is that love worth its weight in wonder and the universe has blessed us both with pleasure and true experience in the dark languages of our touching lips.
Perhaps the wisest and most touching words I've ever seen on the IGS.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.04.02 21:56:00 -
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Interesting words, Jade.
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Aellos Lisetier
Gallente Starfield Rangers
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Posted - 2011.04.02 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Revan Neferis What can you ever really know of other people's souls - of their temptations, their opportunities, their struggles? One soul in the whole creation you do know: and it is the only one whose fate is connected to your heart.
Perhaps the purpose of life and immortality is to discover what we can know. Or at least discover the colours of the things unknown to us. But what is known is that love worth its weight in wonder and the universe has blessed us both with pleasure and true experience in the dark languages of our touching lips.
Good words Ms Constantine, and of course there are different loves: that for a lover being only the most obvious, there is also that for a friend, for a country, for freedom and simply that for those in humanity who need our help. Perhaps that is our lesson: that without love we are not "gods" as people often describe the immortal capsuleers but perhaps we become demons.
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Mr Adebisi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.03 06:57:00 -
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I, too, am gay
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Stahlregen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.03 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
*The camera drone moves to focus on a Gallentean woman of above average height, with olive-skinned clear features and cropped dark hair, walking along a golden shingle with a formal evening dress fluttering in the sea breeze quite incongruous to the bare feet leaving footprints in the wet sand. She walks on for a dozen heartbeats, then pauses, turns and smiles a half smile, green eyes glittering darkly to the contrast of a wonderful sunset and the unmistakable features of New EdenÆs notorious anarchist fighter silhouetted against the rays of a scarlet primary falling below the azure shadows of a luxuriant tropical ocean.*
ôGood evening New Eden. ItÆs been a while since we chatted and I thought it would be rather wonderful to catch up.ö
*She bends, draping the hem of the dress in the golden sand, tracing a symbol idly with her forefinger and looking again to the camera drone, eyes wistful and lips pursed as if to tell a secret*
ôThe thing is IÆve been thinking. IÆve been thinking about a lot recently. IÆve been fighting almost since the time I made the transition to post-humanity, across the length and breadth of the tapestry of stars, from the cold principalities of Venal, to the corruption of Providence, from Syndicate to Bleaklands, and the Ammatar dominions, a hundred systems and dozens of regions. It sometimes seems IÆve done little else but fight. I look at my public records for the combat databases of the ships IÆve captained and the victories and tragedies there turn from significance to mere statistics all too easily. IÆve killed five million spacers if I've killed a dozen, and that makes me a mass-murderer on any reasonable scale.
IÆve commanded wars that have annihilated corporations and alliances, IÆve scattered other hopes and broken those agencies I considered fair quarry and lived to tell the tale. Or at least, the legend of Jade Constantine has survived to speak with you now.ö
*she pauses thoughtfully still crouched, watching the gentle tide as it laps around her toes and begins the erase the partially-drawn symbol at her feet*
ôI do think a lot of the first of my identities, I think of Jacqueline who took to the capsule and enlisted as a miner in domain, who saw the oppression of the baseline crewmen and misguided capsuleers under hierarchist influence and urged them to resist.
I remember her progression from mining to trade, from the robotics trading in Aridia to plutonium smuggling through Pureblind and how the acquisition of wealth and influence created as many enemies as opportunities and choices made at each turn.
But Jacqueline, the idealist, the dreamer, the capsuleer who wanted to build a freeport utopia from H-PA29 system was killed in one of the first major engagements of the Venal civil war with her Blackbird class cruiser obliterated by a M4GA corporation Battleship and mortal essence blasted to atoms at the moment of quantum resurrection many hundreds of light-years away.
And I wonder sometimes, why I follow the dreams of another? Am I simply a revenant walking in patterns dictated by inertia and nothing else?"
*She rises and smiles again, letting the sand drop from her fingers with a flick and looks out past the camera drone deep in thought*
ôThatÆs not really what I wanted to speak about though. It is all too easy to fall into the emotional quagmires of nihilism and self-doubt and reversed-loathing.
We are what we are and we do what we feel is right. But we are less than perfect. Sometimes the only saving grace is our capacity for innovation and freedom, I wonder now if that freedom is best expressed through humility."
Hey remember that time when you ran that brothel and received isk in return for having cyber sex with other guys using your harem of alts?
Ahhhhh good times. Anyway, hit me up sometime jade- i might have some work for you.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.04.03 14:45:00 -
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It is rather disingenuous for a leader in an entity that has cheaply sold every orifice it possesses to the Northern Coalition to speak too loudly about ôspace brothelsö in New Eden.
Again though. I confess I have no real regret for actions against and damage caused to the interests of Goonswarm Confederation.
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Cheiftan
Minmatar Shinryaku
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Posted - 2011.04.03 19:55:00 -
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I have never been a man of words, or one who has cared for a public image, but jade i see somthing now in you that i have never seen before, you may not be the beast i once thought you was.
Would u be willing to let me mail you in private?
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Stahlregen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.04 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: Stahlregen on 04/04/2011 02:01:31
Originally by: Jade Constantine
It is rather disingenuous for a leader in an entity that has cheaply sold every orifice it possesses to the Northern Coalition to speak too loudly about ôspace brothelsö in New Eden.
Again though. I confess I have no real regret for actions against and damage caused to the interests of Goonswarm Confederation.
Am i to take it that you are denying your well documented history as an interstellar prostitute?
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Wildcard Trek
Caldari Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 10:16:00 -
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Jade, I have always taken your anarchist freedom view of New Eden to mean you believe in freedom at all costs, freedom to do anything because you think you should be able to, even if it means one may go into the nearest Concord office and take a dump upon his or her desk without fear of consequence.
Does this mean your view of freedom / anarchy has changed and your now willing to understand and co-operate with organizations who wish to live under their own rules and regulations and govern themselves within their boarders the way they see fit and not the hard line anarchist view you normally have?
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.04 13:50:00 -
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Trolling comment removed
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.04.04 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Wildcard Trek Jade, I have always taken your anarchist freedom view of New Eden to mean you believe in freedom at all costs, freedom to do anything because you think you should be able to, even if it means one may go into the nearest Concord office and take a dump upon his or her desk without fear of consequence.
And that would appear to be your mistake in understanding the message monsieur Trek. Anarchist political principle is not to render ourselves free of consequence or even the fear of consequence. We accept that our actions will have consequence and it is a consequence we take individually and collectively if such things impact our associations.
We could at length deconstruct the whole line of your reasoning here and ask if you consider me flying a vessel through a star system you claim does violence to your hypothetic "boats" regardless of whether I intend to shoot anybody or not. The issue there is that you might consider my travelling through a star system I consider open space and you consider your personal protectorate to be a provocative act whereas I simply look at your claim to own a starsystem with disebelief and resolve to ignore you as much as possible.
But this will confuse the essential misunderstanding you have here. Anarchy is not freedom from consequence. Anarchists accept consequence for their actions often far more honestly than do statists and imperialist agents.
Originally by: Wildcard Trek Does this mean your view of freedom / anarchy has changed and your now willing to understand and co-operate with organizations who wish to live under their own rules and regulations and govern themselves within their boarders the way they see fit and not the hard line anarchist view you normally have?
Well since your question was based on a false assumption (that anarchy is about avoiding consequence) its impossible to answer your direct question.
My view of anarchy has not changed. Nor has my belief that it was a terrible mistake for the CVA to bring the regressive dogma of religious expansion and slavery to the virgin territories of the frontier in an unholy weddding of capsuleer policed NRDS and planetside Amarrian slave farming. I believe you did quite grevious harm to the notion of NRDS role in Freespace ideology by combining the fiscal liberties of posthumanity with the enslavement of baseline populace.
So I will ask you a question Wildcard Trek. Given the choice would you like to build this society of organizations wishing to associate and build their own rules and consensus in nullsec if it was to be genuinely free of Amarrian imperialist taint and the political detritous of slavery?
For my part I am interested in Capsuleers seeking to organize autonomously on the frontier to build consensus and wealth in honest effort. But such associations are not bound to the mistakes of the past, and nor is it implied anywhere that enslaving baseline humanity is the neccessary ingredient in such endeavours.
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Wildcard Trek
Caldari Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.05 10:19:00 -
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A simple answer of NO would of done nicely.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.04.05 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Wildcard Trek A simple answer of NO would of done nicely.
You will find few simple answers to loaded questions. But the conclusion is plain. Yes I can certainly support your aspirations to form a progressive free-trade self-governing outworld collective just as long as you actually build it yourselves this time - rather than doing so on the backs of slave labour and human misery.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.05 13:42:00 -
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No apologies, no mercy. They fashioned you a monster, and so it only makes sense you turn the world into a burning dominion. They oppress all of humanity by placing them in a blind and consensual dictatorship. They plucked some of us to be their inhuman tools in the vast nothingness.
Do not apologise for who you are, and most of all; do not forget who you are. The only way we can save humanity and help the oppressed is to set the sky on fire, if only to give warmth planet side to those who are still human. Hell is vast and lacking in atmosphere, departing people from it is the greatest service. |
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James Syagrius
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Posted - 2011.04.21 03:05:00 -
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Ms. Constantine we donÆt know each other, but for what itÆs worth. ItÆs our failings, not in our virtues, that make us human. As we are all children of folly, through them we can touch each other, and find empathy. It is in our follies that we are one.
Your predicament reminded me of this.
ôAll change, even the most longed for, has its melancholy; for what we leave behind is a part of us; we must die to one life before we can be born to another.ö Anatole a Gallentean Poet & Philosopher.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.05.03 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi *The camera clears to show the lean face of a woman. Her features are perhaps Gallentean, with the young/old look of one often cloned and an almost anonymous beauty that speaks of cosmetic manipulation on a genetic level. Her short hair is black, contrasting with her pale skin and the thick black liner around her dark eyes. Her eyes glint with a feral spark and stay fixed on the camera lens. She speaks Gallentean with a thick accent.*
"I'm not the sort of person who bares my inner self in public, but I suppose there's a sort of catharsis to be had here. If I regret any souring of friendships, it is probably yours that I regret the most. Before I met you, I had no real purpose, only a sort of post-human impulse that I gradually learned to trust. That changed when we met, and I realized that I could use that impulse to help bring about the sort of world that I wanted to live in. We were close in those days. We shared secrets and struggles and enemies together.
"Yet things changed, as they must, and I left. At first I had left only for the good of my clade, and my intention was to return. Hard words killed that intention, and my temporary departure became permanent. The last time we met outside of a virtual environment, we both tried very hard to kill one another.
"That's all so melodramatic sounding, but sometimes you need a little melodrama to make a point. You know me, Jade, and you know that I've always loved the worthiest of my enemies, and I've often felt bonds with them that run deeper than most. When we meet again in space we may very well try to kill one another again, but that doesn't mean that I don't care about you. That doesn't mean that I don't respect you and your position."
*The woman pauses for a moment, drawing a deep breath and brushing a lock of hair from her face with a forefinger.*
"As far as I'm concerned, we're good, Jade. You couldn't be what I needed, and I couldn't be what you needed, but we're good all the same."
Thank you Shintoko. I think was not easy for either of us to say. I do truly regret the friendships lost for no good reason.
Too easily people (and I amongst them) fall into the trap and rhythms of animosity and hostile rhetoric when our ideals are questioned and confronted. Often we are right to do so when facing enemies in the blood, but sometimes we lose something precious when camaraderie is sacrificed to pride.
I do apologise to you Shintoko Akahoshi.
Truthfully if I find you in the crosshairs of a warship in the future I do not think I have the heart to order it to fire.
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Kuan Yida
Minmatar Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.05.03 17:35:00 -
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I for one have no need for further reconciliation, the path is too far traveled and too well beaten. But, I can think of many noble pilots who should indeed be owed the deepest of apologies. I will not name names, I am certain you know of whom I speak. I urge you not to simply wait for them to contact you here, but to pro-actively extend personal and honest acceptance of the wrongs you have done them.
And I acknowledge both surprise and mild satisfaction in your facing of the dishonors you have committed upon honorable, good and worthy capsuleers.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.05.03 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kuan Yida I for one have no need for further reconciliation, the path is too far traveled and too well beaten. But, I can think of many noble pilots who should indeed be owed the deepest of apologies. I will not name names, I am certain you know of whom I speak. I urge you not to simply wait for them to contact you here, but to pro-actively extend personal and honest acceptance of the wrongs you have done them. And I acknowledge both surprise and mild satisfaction in your facing of the dishonors you have committed upon honorable, good and worthy capsuleers.
War has a terrible way of distorting the most honest of virtues Kuan Yida.
You and I walked through those flames and a great deal of harm was caused. I certainly regret the benefit our mutual foes gained from this animosity and have reflected for a long time now on the mistakes that were made.
Other pilots must consider their own conscience but for my part I apologise unreservedly for the damage my own pride caused to the interests and ideals my crewmen spilled their blood to honour.
We fought not for pay or reward Kuan Yida. We earned no "loyalty points" or even thanks from those we fought beside. We fought because we thought it was right.
But yes you are correct. This issue is one I do regret. And I would seek and ending of the pointless feuds generated to the benefit of our mutual foes.
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