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Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.21 15:54:00 - [1] I was just perusing Manalapan's "Vote for Manalapan" CSM thread, and it hit me that we really have never had anyone on the CSM. Perhaps it's time for some of the regulars on this forum to work on a consensus candidate and a economic-related platform. I mean, it's not like we don't have a ton of issues that we all complain about.
corestwo Goonfleet Investment Banking	Posted - 2011.02.21 15:56:00 - [2] Only if "the MD delegate" is also an inhabitant of 0.0, so they're not simultaneously pushing the "**** 0.0" plan several morons currently are.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.21 15:58:00 - [3] Originally by: corestwo Only if "the MD delegate" is also an inhabitant of 0.0, so they're not simultaneously pushing the "**** 0.0" plan several morons currently are. I'm quite OK with plans to make 0.0 "better" for industrialists. I don't think this is a group of folks that would have a consensus strong view on any of the 0.0 pvp or logistics issues.
Florestan Bronstein	Posted - 2011.02.21 16:06:00 - [4] Quote: that we really have never had anyone on the CSM. Omber Zombie and LaVista Vista were past CSM members/candidates with some MD backing.
corestwo Goonfleet Investment Banking	Posted - 2011.02.21 16:09:00 - [5] Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: corestwo Only if "the MD delegate" is also an inhabitant of 0.0, so they're not simultaneously pushing the "**** 0.0" plan several morons currently are. I'm quite OK with plans to make 0.0 "better" for industrialists. I don't think this is a group of folks that would have a consensus strong view on any of the 0.0 pvp or logistics issues. "0.0 better for industrialists" is one thing. "0.0 logistics are too easy" and things of that nature are quite another.
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.02.21 16:19:00 - [6] It's about time we got our man in the White House. We need a business-friendly candidate to represent our interests in Washington.
Cista2 Hydra Investment Fund	Posted - 2011.02.21 16:40:00 - [7] Originally by: Liberty Eternal It's about time we got our man in the White House. We need a business-friendly candidate to represent our interests in Washington. If I knew someone was running, I would go and vote, but noone from MD seems to have the urge. Problem with most MDers is they don't know the "endgame" and are thus disqualified as serious candidates. ----------------------- "Signatures" trade chatroom / Universal Railways
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.21 16:47:00 - [8] Originally by: Cista2 Originally by: Liberty Eternal It's about time we got our man in the White House. We need a business-friendly candidate to represent our interests in Washington. If I knew someone was running, I would go and vote, but noone from MD seems to have the urge. Problem with most MDers is they don't know the "endgame" and are thus disqualified as serious candidates. Define "endgame"
Lando Antilles	Posted - 2011.02.21 16:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Kalrand Define "endgame" Sandbox != endgame I'd imagine that practically speaking EVE endgame is whatever piece of New Eden that you end up doing contentedly on a regular basis OR it's whatever you try that bores you to death and convinces you to stop playing for an extended period. I would imagine that PI fits both criteria, depending on who you ask.
Dethmourne Silvermane Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.02.21 17:15:00 - [10] I thought about running, but didn't have a passport, nor the time to acquire one. Going to take care of that around May, so maybe next CSM we'll see a Dethmourne for Prez-for-life ca... I mean, for CSM campaign

Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.02.21 18:19:00 - [11] I noticed that this thread is about "Oh god, we've never had a MD'er on the CSM" and not about "What can MD bring to the CSM table?"
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.21 18:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Brock Nelson I noticed that this thread is about "Oh god, we've never had a MD'er on the CSM" and not about "What can MD bring to the CSM table?" Those questions are not wholly separate. We probably have better discussion on the in game economics here than you'll ever see in the Jita Park Assembly whatever threads.
Liberty Eternal	Posted - 2011.02.21 18:36:00 - [13] Originally by: Kalrand Those questions are not wholly separate. We probably have better discussion on the in game economics here than you'll ever see in the Jita Park Assembly whatever threads. We certainly have a didactic role to play, and can possibly build on that to inform and then shift public policy in a few notable areas. However, forming public policy is no light responsibility. It's too much for one candidate to perform alone. One possible approach may be to form a lobby and then go through the list of existing members of the CSM, cobble together some kind of a common platform on key market and financial security issues, then push forward that way. Originally by: Brock Nelson I noticed that this thread is about "Oh god, we've never had a MD'er on the CSM" and not about "What can MD bring to the CSM table?" A mutual convergence of self-interest is always the most reliable and happy method.
Amarr Citizen 155 Nordar Innovations.	Posted - 2011.02.21 19:17:00 - [14] Ok, Ok, I'll run. Now stop pressuring me.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.21 19:25:00 - [15] I almost ran once (even posted, got good feedback). Still intend to, but when I have the time...not for another year to two years.
Wyke Mossari Gallente	Posted - 2011.02.21 20:23:00 - [16] I think the current CSM has been one of the most successful, however it is still dominated by the interests of the large alliances, none of the current incumbents can be considered carebears.
Raid'En	Posted - 2011.02.21 20:30:00 - [17] Edited by: Raid''En on 21/02/2011 20:32:55 Originally by: Kalrand Those questions are not wholly separate. We probably have better discussion on the in game economics here than you'll ever see in the Jita Park Assembly whatever threads. nothing force you to only talk economy on the MD forum, you can go to jita/assembly if you have ideas, you don't need to be CSM for that. ---------------- Wormhole Trading
Manalapan Dynasty Banking General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.21 20:35:00 - [18] Well I don't know if MD could get a designated candidate elected but really should look at all the candidates when the announcement is released and see if there is anyone that is looking for some of the solutions MD wants and back them. ------ Support Manalapan for CSM! Fixing EVE The Player That Makes EVE Stronger Manalapan Campaign
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.02.21 20:46:00 - [19] Posting in a Man, Hexx, AC thread! I feel ~~special~~ elite now.
cosmoray Cosmoray Holdings Corp	Posted - 2011.02.21 20:53:00 - [20] Originally by: Kalrand I was just perusing Manalapan's "Vote for Manalapan" CSM thread, and it hit me that we really have never had anyone on the CSM. Perhaps it's time for some of the regulars on this forum to work on a consensus candidate and a economic-related platform. I mean, it's not like we don't have a ton of issues that we all complain about. Great, Manalapan who ran a fail/SCAM business. Made repeated promises over 2-3 years to pay the shareholders back, never did.

Gabriel Rosencrantz Red Frog Freight	Posted - 2011.02.21 20:58:00 - [21] I just assumed no MD regular would give up his RL identity for the opportunity to run. It would be interesting to see the real people behind the "colorful" personalities of MD.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.21 21:58:00 - [22] Originally by: cosmoray Originally by: Kalrand I was just perusing Manalapan's "Vote for Manalapan" CSM thread, and it hit me that we really have never had anyone on the CSM. Perhaps it's time for some of the regulars on this forum to work on a consensus candidate and a economic-related platform. I mean, it's not like we don't have a ton of issues that we all complain about. Great, Manalapan who ran a fail/SCAM business. Made repeated promises over 2-3 years to pay the shareholders back, never did. I actually think the biggest problem with Manalapan isn't that he stole people's money, but that he burned out for an extended period of time.
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2011.02.21 22:06:00 - [23] Originally by: cosmoray Great, Manalapan who ran a fail/SCAM business. Made repeated promises over 2-3 years to pay the shareholders back, never did. Not only that. he ran for CSM before and promised ISK for votes. But Mana aside, for me the ideal (MD) candidate would have two points on his agenda: the economy and the API (which most of us heavily use, I guess). While the API was long treated like the black sheep of the family, but has picked up speed lately, there's still lot of place for improvement. And I personally rather have knowledgeable people in certain parts of the game in the CSM, which admit that they have no clue about <other part of game> than those jack of all trades who know a bit about everything but only ever scratched the surface of each game feature. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.02.21 22:17:00 - [24] So in order to get elected to the CSM one should want whats best for 0.0, MD, industralists, and any other special interests. I can promise the world and deliver on nothing, just like a real politician
Manalapan Dynasty Banking General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.21 23:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: cosmoray Originally by: Kalrand I was just perusing Manalapan's "Vote for Manalapan" CSM thread, and it hit me that we really have never had anyone on the CSM. Perhaps it's time for some of the regulars on this forum to work on a consensus candidate and a economic-related platform. I mean, it's not like we don't have a ton of issues that we all complain about. Great, Manalapan who ran a fail/SCAM business. Made repeated promises over 2-3 years to pay the shareholders back, never did. I actually think the biggest problem with Manalapan isn't that he stole people's money, but that he burned out for an extended period of time. Yes, DBANK did rather burn me out. I did not play much for months after the DBANK scandal and have not made too much effort to come back to MD. I find that without any project the forums grind on me a little. ------ Support Manalapan for CSM! Fixing EVE The Player That Makes EVE Stronger Manalapan Campaign
cosmoray Cosmoray Holdings Corp	Posted - 2011.02.21 23:18:00 - [26] Never really understood the idea of wanting to be on the CSM. Sounds awfully like a job to me. Will I get paid? Nope. Anyone who has finished college/school and has started their career realises that committees and meetings are a big waste of time and is time in your life you won't get back. Exception being anyone who works in the Public Sector or HR, as they spend all day in meetings justifying why they get paid!!
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.02.21 23:21:00 - [27] Originally by: cosmoray Never really understood the idea of wanting to be on the CSM. The chance to drink with the CCP staff and possible have an impact on the game itself.
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.02.22 00:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Breaker77 Originally by: cosmoray Never really understood the idea of wanting to be on the CSM. The chance to drink with the CCP staff and possible have an impact on the game itself. Don't forget about insider info that will impact the market
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.02.22 00:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Brock Nelson Originally by: Breaker77 Originally by: cosmoray Never really understood the idea of wanting to be on the CSM. The chance to drink with the CCP staff and possible have an impact on the game itself. Don't forget about insider info that will impact the market Oh hell, I'd just love a chance to sit down and drink with the guys/gals. They seem like a friendly lot to hang out with. With StevieG and Fallout being icing on the cake
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.02.22 01:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Breaker77 Oh hell, I'd just love a chance to sit down and drink with the guys/gals. They seem like a friendly lot to hang out with. With StevieG and Fallout being icing on the cake Just don't pass out...you know how CCP can be when it comes to passed out player



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