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Pixiss
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:23:00 -
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did anyone do The Maze lately ? if so can you please tell me with what ship did you tank it and the fitting on it ? also is there a ship that can solo this plex ? i've heard that ccp modified The Maze in the new patches so it's easyer but i need a confirmation from someone who did it. tnx in advance , cheers !
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Jahn Conyghan
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Posted - 2011.02.14 15:09:00 -
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Your best bet is plex fit rattlesnake with as much tank as possible, your dps may suffer but Lows: full rack spr Mid: 2x Pithium A type Kinetic Amps 2x pithium A type Heat Amps 2x large shield extender 2's 1x shield recharger Highs 4x Cruise Launcher II's with wrath fury (whatever you want)
Rigs 3x shield purger II's
yes you suffer a little on raw resist but this is entirely passive. you can always drop a couple sprs for a few pdu's and drop in two active pith a types. for more resists or drop the shield recharger and put on another LSE II for more buffer.
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Pixiss
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.02.14 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jahn Conyghan Your best bet is plex fit rattlesnake with as much tank as possible, your dps may suffer but Lows: full rack spr Mid: 2x Pithium A type Kinetic Amps 2x pithium A type Heat Amps 2x large shield extender 2's 1x shield recharger Highs 4x Cruise Launcher II's with wrath fury (whatever you want)
Rigs 3x shield purger II's yes you suffer a little on raw resist but this is entirely passive. you can always drop a couple sprs for a few pdu's and drop in two active pith a types. for more resists or drop the shield recharger and put on another LSE II for more buffer.
yes, but this is a solo fit ? also the maze has thor torpedo that do tons of dmg on EM.
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Noferatu
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:22:00 -
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It's been a while since I did the Maze but.. I think that Rattler fit will die in a fire in the last room because the Citadel torps hit for 180,000 raw EM per shot. Or at least they used to. I haven't heard these rumours of the plex being nerfed.
I don't know of anyone who has completed is solo. The usual method is tank & dps eg. Guardian & Domi.
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Myleana
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Pixiss
Originally by: Jahn Conyghan Your best bet is plex fit rattlesnake with as much tank as possible, your dps may suffer but Lows: full rack spr Mid: 2x Pithium A type Kinetic Amps 2x pithium A type Heat Amps 2x large shield extender 2's 1x shield recharger Highs 4x Cruise Launcher II's with wrath fury (whatever you want)
Rigs 3x shield purger II's yes you suffer a little on raw resist but this is entirely passive. you can always drop a couple sprs for a few pdu's and drop in two active pith a types. for more resists or drop the shield recharger and put on another LSE II for more buffer.
yes, but this is a solo fit ? also the maze has thor torpedo that do tons of dmg on EM.
Can't be solo'd, you need atleast 1 logistics and a tanking ship with decent dps for the last room.
Can be EASILY tanked using a Phobos and a guardian + dps ships, thats how we ran ours.
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Din'stalor Alaric
StarHunt
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Posted - 2011.02.14 17:13:00 -
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Your rattler will get ****d in final room. trust me, mine did and was fitted out fully passive similar to that fit. Its the em thor torp that kills you. As posted above, phobos plus domi with rr is the smallest gang to do it with. domi with sentry rigs, and then 2 large rr. dont forget your omnis, and then in last highs fit some large smarties for the frigs that are at 0 when u land, you can get rid of about 12 frigs, which hit phobos hard given the small sig radius of phobos and small weapons they use. after that just rr the phobos when need and work your way from small to large. phobos and domi isnt the fastest way to do the maze, but given a rr domi is about 3months training to be ok at it, its fairly do able as a dual boxer on the cheap.
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Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.02.14 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Mithrasith on 14/02/2011 17:20:00 I used to use a Guardian as the primary tank in the final room, I kid you not.
Usually some variation of either 2X Guardian + 2X BS, or 1X Guardian + 2BS's with RR.
Worked well due to the low signature radius (that way the Citadel Torp doesnt do too much dps) on the Guardian, decent resists, AB, and its ability to pop reps out to the other ships in the gang as needed.
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Jahn Conyghan
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Posted - 2011.02.14 17:34:00 -
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I completely forgot about the em damage torp.
It can be done you simply need to refit for em omni. Im not saying its going to be easy to solo or even possible.
I would run it with this setup + rr
lows 4sprII 1 facitonal bcu 1 dc mids 2 LSEII 1 pithium kinetic amp 1 pitium heat amp 1 pitium em amp 1 a-type kinetic 1 invuln field ( factional or tech II) highs same
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Pixiss
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.02.14 18:28:00 -
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i was asking about the tanker fit and what ship can tank it + 1 logi . i was just curiouse if exist a fit for someone to do it solo but im very sceptic about it. so can you guys please give me a fit and a ship to tnak it.
cheers !
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Jahn Conyghan
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Posted - 2011.02.14 19:04:00 -
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I just did.... If you use that second rattler setup you will tank it with an RR.
Either way you need the logi or a RR domi to boost your tank through the torp.
oh add tech 2 defense field purgers to that rattler fit.
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Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.02.14 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pixiss i was asking about the tanker fit and what ship can tank it + 1 logi . i was just curiouse if exist a fit for someone to do it solo but im very sceptic about it. so can you guys please give me a fit and a ship to tnak it.
cheers !
Apparently you missed where I said - Guardian. Of course you didnt tell us whether you were going to Shield tank or Armor tank - so we're all pulling at straws here.
As for a fit, open EFT and see what you can come up with and post it.
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SamGromoff
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.02.14 21:14:00 -
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It can be soloed in a very expensive tengu. No, I'm not giving out the fit.
If you're not interested in spending 1.5b on the setup any combination of 3 specifically prepared ships (or 2 if the pilot(s) know what they are doing) can run it.
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Pixiss
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.02.14 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jahn Conyghan I completely forgot about the em damage torp.
It can be done you simply need to refit for em omni. Im not saying its going to be easy to solo or even possible.
I would run it with this setup + rr
lows 4sprII 1 facitonal bcu 1 dc mids 2 LSEII 1 pithium kinetic amp 1 pitium heat amp 1 pitium em amp 1 a-type kinetic 1 invuln field ( factional or tech II) highs same
i was thinking that the rsnake has a big sig radius that is why i'm thinking he cant tank the thor torpedo. i've heard that some ppl are tanking themaze with broadsword/sleipnir/claymore .
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Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2011.02.15 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: SamGromoff It can be soloed in a very expensive tengu. No, I'm not giving out the fit.
If you're not interested in spending 1.5b on the setup any combination of 3 specifically prepared ships (or 2 if the pilot(s) know what they are doing) can run it.
That fit is not as secret as you may think. Though I will not give it away I will say it can be downgraded and still achievable with 2 ships if you know what you are doing.
Remember, there are 6 ways to mitigate missile damage and that is the brunt of the damage Guristas do. Speed, resists, buffer, recharge/boost, smart bombs, and defender missiles.
Now find the right combination and all is golden.
Patri
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Rahnim
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Posted - 2011.02.15 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Patri Andari
Originally by: SamGromoff It can be soloed in a very expensive tengu. No, I'm not giving out the fit.
If you're not interested in spending 1.5b on the setup any combination of 3 specifically prepared ships (or 2 if the pilot(s) know what they are doing) can run it.
That fit is not as secret as you may think. Though I will not give it away I will say it can be downgraded and still achievable with 2 ships if you know what you are doing.
Remember, there are 6 ways to mitigate missile damage and that is the brunt of the damage Guristas do. Speed, resists, buffer, recharge/boost, smart bombs, and defender missiles.
Now find the right combination and all is golden.
The problem even with speed tank is all the webs you get on you when you enter the last room. but once those webs are gone, I have managed to stay alive with my ishtar, (though the cruiser wave almost killed me)
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Chutney Hustler
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Posted - 2011.02.15 12:44:00 -
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I've been thinking of a Tengu combo to attempt this plex. This is the setup I've come up with so far:
[Tengu, The Maze] Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
10MN Afterburner II Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster Gist A-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Photon Scattering Field II Photon Scattering Field II Domination Shield Boost Amplifier
Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Will easily tank any Guristas spawn, as it has a +1000dps perma-tank (and on top of that a small sig and an AB to speed tank) but was wondering if this small sig and fast speed will enable it to tank the EM torp (the citadel webs to 50km allegedly so once outside this range will be moving at 616m/s). Should 2 Tengus fit like this be able to complete it, or would one have to be refit for RR?
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Jahn Conyghan
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Posted - 2011.02.15 13:59:00 -
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To be honest if you are going to go in with 2, you might as well each sacrifice a high for remote rep ( 2 tengu) or just do a rr setup and have one ship fit a claok to hide between waves.
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Higgs Foton
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.16 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chutney Hustler I've been thinking of a Tengu combo to attempt this plex. This is the setup I've come up with so far: Will easily tank any Guristas spawn, as it has a +1000dps perma-tank (and on top of that a small sig and an AB to speed tank) but was wondering if this small sig and fast speed will enable it to tank the EM torp (the citadel webs to 50km allegedly so once outside this range will be moving at 616m/s). Should 2 Tengus fit like this be able to complete it, or would one have to be refit for RR?
NO
You will land right on top of 6 statis webbifier towers. Your tank will be a sitting duck until you have at least cleared the towers. So one tengu needs to be rr.
Last time i did a plex we used a proteus as tank (could rep itself) and two tengus and one gila as dps. I think we cleared the plex in under 30 minutes.
It is possible to solo the plex, but you'll need a very expensive tengu fit for it. I heard the proteus is also a possibility, but it might lack on dps. ___________________________________
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KWyz
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Posted - 2011.02.16 09:16:00 -
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Note that, even though it can be cleared with just one ship(said really expensive Tengu), it will take a long time. Staying for too long in one place is not something you want to do in 0.0 while plexing. Even if you are inside The Maze.
Besides, I can guarantee that unless you're a jaded plex runner who's been doing this ever since EVE came out, you'll have a lot more fun bringing along some friends. Seriously, try it! Multiplayer PVE can be a lot of fun.
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Life Tap
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Posted - 2011.02.16 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Life Tap on 16/02/2011 09:18:39 you can tank the maze in a tengu. you need to be able to tank 3500 dps and shield boost of around 1900. so you will need implaints to get this. also your rep needs to perma run so you need to be cap stable
we did this 2 days ago with 3 tengu 2 max dps the other set up for tank only
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Higgs Foton
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.16 09:29:00 -
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I never tried it in one tengu, but in my corp there is a guy who does it, and he has given me the fit. It's cap stable indeed. I asked him about implants, but he said he didn;t need them. But i am sure they will come in handy.
as for the fit: I too, will not give it here, but it amounts to 3 billion ISK total, and it's all deadspace/faction. ___________________________________
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Soldarius
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.02.16 09:39:00 -
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Got it second hand that the Maze can be soloed by a pimped deadspace Tengu. Your Rattlesnake would die in a very big EM fire. Also confirming its the Citadel Thor torps that make it so hard.
Originally by: CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
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Life Tap
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Posted - 2011.02.16 09:47:00 -
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i dont see how you could do the maze with 1 ship. haveing done the maze with my tengu you have to set it up for max tank with little dps you would never kill the stn off. its possible to do with 2 tengu but would take ages
as for setup you will need a dead space / faction tank you need a minimum of 85 resist on your em and around 90 on your kin
you realy need crystal implaints
and dont forget the t2 rigs
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Sfynx
Caldari The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.18 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Sfynx on 18/02/2011 02:22:05 Edited by: Sfynx on 18/02/2011 02:19:43 Doing this easily in a EM/kin/therm tanked Ishtar + a 4x large rep Dominix as logistics ship, both fielding T2 sentries as main dps + light drones for killing the frigates. Combined dps also breaks the station easily. Most hairy moment for me is actually the fourth spawn after hitting the outpost because it contains a pile of jamming cruisers, which can shut down your logistics ship for a long time if you are unlucky. So best to make sure all previous spawns are dead before spawning it, and to have a bit of a buffer on the tank to buy time before you really have to reaquire lock (e.g. plating the thing combined with the resists can make it receive a number of torpedoes without problems).
Actually I can sustain the Ishtar with 2 remote reppers only after most of the initial aggro is dead, being able to sustain any damage to the Dominix with a local tank. No sweat.
Solo is probably possible, but also factor in the time to complete the complex. The 2 ships I use are T2, so even if it goes wrong, e.g. you warp in your logi too late, meh the overeers effects alone will cover for it :P
Btw, I noticed the gate positions have changed, good change IMO... no more getting stuck because you happen to warp right into a big condensed pile of gates. |
Shilmaar
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Posted - 2011.02.18 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: Shilmaar on 18/02/2011 09:46:43 Edited by: Shilmaar on 18/02/2011 09:46:19 HI I have used a proteus to tank the last room.
I can say it works but its not great damage dealing.
The proteus is pretty good tankerdue to low sig but the issue is you cant kill everything because you need nice lows for armor tank fit. Webs mean gal guns are not dealing enough dps on targets too.
Another person in a domi is a good cheap choice as they can also fit some remote repps and just in case and at same time do some decent damage least.
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Pixiss
Gallente Dashavatara Cascade Associates
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Posted - 2011.02.18 09:56:00 -
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so is there any minmatar ship that can tank it ? i just want to tank it ( the solo question was just a curiousity that is all ) , also i've heard from some guys that they ware taking it with smart bombs for the torpedo but idk rly what to say because you have to calculate time + distance and velocity time to be exact on the smart bomb. i think it's the same with defender missiles.
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