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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.02.05 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Tippia The UI should not be a hobby project.
The best UIs in MMOs come from hobbiests, when the developers let the players mod the UI.
`and the reason that was at all possible was because the WoW UI was not a hobby project y it was a very sturdy framework.
Proper customisation requires a hellasolid ground or it will keel over at the slightest prod. We don't need more of that in the EVE UI. yyy tIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡` you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.v y Karath Piki |

Delphen Gruss
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.05 05:57:00 -
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/signed
I didn't mess with it to much, but what I did I liked. Bring this back
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Xercodo
Amarr Daj'Juntar
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Posted - 2011.02.05 06:26:00 -
[63]
yes...
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:00:00 -
[64]
signed
and then keep it optional for EVER. that way we can be on the road to being able to pick the UI we like best. Maybe even have a third option in future. And push the improvements the neo neocom had to the old one, so it's a matter of taste.
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James Giovanni
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: yani dumyat Edited by: yani dumyat on 04/02/2011 18:48:16 Players ask for excellence then when CCP temporarily pull a feature to give it some polish you moan about it.
Seriously, pull yourself together. Edit, I forgot these are the internets, nothing is ever right here. 
Sorry but a dev stated it has not been temporarily pulled. it's been killed. which is bull****.
signed
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Syphon Lodian Edited by: Syphon Lodian on 04/02/2011 20:23:30 The neocom beta looked exactly like some Windows layout knockoff. It would completely and utterly ruin the game for some people,
It was OPTIONAL
and also the bottom of the screen is already taken up BY TABS. The neo neocom docked those tabs to the neocom. Meaning MORE vertical screen space. And once it was given the option to go vertical it would be basically the same as current Neocom as far as looks. Are you saying the eve ui already looks like Windows 7? because the only thing that made it look that was way being on the bottom of the screen. And once it went vertical it would pulled all of those tabs that take up the bottom of eve, and docked them to the left side. Which would of been brilliant.
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jade ranger
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: trjcquee No.
It was a solution in search of a problem because the existing Neocom is NOT broken. Not nearly as much as many other things (e.g. drone control interface).
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The new shiny Neocom violates that rule and I'm glad CCP scrapped it.
If you were following the dev blog thread a dev said it would possible with the Neo neocom code to dock a drone combat control window right into the neocom. Meaning you could install apps right into it. think windows media player on the taskbar, but for drone combat. Current neocom will neveer do that.
/signed I wanted the neo neocom :( it was better in every way. It gave me so much more screen space:(
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Katarina reid
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:21:00 -
[68]
/signed
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Sharon Anne
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:35:00 -
[69]
I thought it was cool, less clutter.
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:36:00 -
[70]
/signed
it wasn't negative, it was constructive criticism.
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Tavin Aikisen
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata CCP: hire the guy who did the CONCORD video for UI design.
I agree.
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Marconus Orion
Global Criminal Countdown
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Posted - 2011.02.05 07:57:00 -
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What will everyone's feeling be when you see the new Neocom that was supposedly scrapped for EVE appear on World of Darkness and/or DUST 514 when they are released?
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Swynet
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Posted - 2011.02.05 08:49:00 -
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Oo because you guys had a new one?
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2011.02.05 08:55:00 -
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Better, more meaningful UI changes for gameplay = Yes New Neocom = reinventing the wheel for almost purely bling factor. No.
Given a simple choice between a better UI for New Contract Searches vs New Neocom, I'll take the New Contract Searches hands-down.
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Feilamya
Pain Elemental
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Posted - 2011.02.05 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Proper customisation requires a hellasolid ground or it will keel over at the slightest prod. We don't need more of that in the EVE UI.
Proper customisation doesn't require rocket science. DAoC had a simple, half-assed XML-based framework for it, and it was enough for players to design better UIs than the devs ever did. Scripting wasn't supported. Any why should it? To support the macros?
Also, stop talking about WoW in feature discussions. There was a time when Eve players wouldn't have dared to admit they ever touched WoW. What the hell is this game coming to?
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Eli Simon
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Posted - 2011.02.05 21:03:00 -
[76]
/signed
The ing ame UI needs a lot of love. The beta neocom was a baby step in the right direction.
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Xervish Krin
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Posted - 2011.02.05 21:46:00 -
[77]
Signed, I loved the beta Neocom.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.02.05 21:47:00 -
[78]
Originally by: mkmin
As far as I understand, they have formed a new UI team/hired a new UI guy only recently. I say let the UI people do their jobs, and create a neocom that's actually good instead of adding a broken one that they'll just have to throw away again later anyway.
The problem with this thinking is that it ignores the usual CCP practice of pulling resources from projects that players support to work on stuff that they perceive to be a revenue generator.
The good thing about the new neocom is that it was already there and only needed some tweaking, as opposed to some 'new interface' that is likely to turn into just another CCP SoonV vaporware. ...
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R'dier
Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.05 23:03:00 -
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Not signed.
After all these years of using the old neo com which does its job just fine, the new neo com was just a huge disappointment that didn't have anything that would have justified it as a worthy "upgrade".
Do it properly or don't do it at all.
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PTang
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Posted - 2011.02.06 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: R'dier Not signed.
After all these years of using the old neo com which does its job just fine, the new neo com was just a huge disappointment that didn't have anything that would have justified it as a worthy "upgrade".
Do it properly or don't do it at all.
sigh
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jelo Magnetti
Caldari Northern Grit Shifters
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Posted - 2011.02.06 04:45:00 -
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/signed
It was what I was most looking forward to in incursion.
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Skuggis
Systembolaget
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Posted - 2011.02.06 04:53:00 -
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/Signed.
To be honest this was one of the main features about Incursion that I was excited about, sure it needed some more tweaks like making it movable for an example but heck, it beats the old one.
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masternerdguy
Gallente Meerkat Maner
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Posted - 2011.02.06 04:59:00 -
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New neocom is crap. It looks like Win 7 and was less intuitive.
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Turrican 2
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Posted - 2011.02.06 05:13:00 -
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Edited by: Turrican 2 on 06/02/2011 05:13:29 not supported
This petition should not be considered due to the ergonomic flaws of the new neocom approach as has been discussed and demonstrated in various threads. In a 16:9/16:10 layout with low vertical resolution it makes no sense to further reduce the visible area by introducing a horizontal neocom. Or are we all going back to 4:3 layouts again?
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.02.06 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Razin on 06/02/2011 05:35:10
Originally by: Turrican 2 Edited by: Turrican 2 on 06/02/2011 05:13:29 not supported
This petition should not be considered due to the ergonomic flaws of the new neocom approach as has been discussed and demonstrated in various threads. In a 16:9/16:10 layout with low vertical resolution it makes no sense to further reduce the visible area by introducing a horizontal neocom. Or are we all going back to 4:3 layouts again?
At 1920x1200 the new neocom at its smallest height took up 2.7% of the vertical resolution (if you chose not to hide it). I don't know if it scaled with different resolutions, but EVE shouldn't be held back by outdated hardware and tiny screens anyway.
Edit: In addition the thing could be made transparent like the old neocom, so the perceived 'reduced visible area' argument is just so much bs from people who couldn't be bothered with trying something before forming an opinion. ...
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Gravemind GER
Caldari Community for Justice Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.02.06 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: Gravemind GER on 06/02/2011 08:31:35
Originally by: masternerdguy New neocom is crap. It looks like Win 7 and was less intuitive.
so you are saying an opensuse kde taskbar looks like a win 7 taskbar too? you are a joke. bad troll -1.5/10
edit: oh, and i wont vote you for csm  U SIR ARE A SPAI! |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.02.06 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Razin At 1920x1200 the new neocom at its smallest height took up 2.7% of the vertical resolution (if you chose not to hide it). I don't know if it scaled with different resolutions, but EVE shouldn't be held back by outdated hardware and tiny screens anyway.
Exacly. Had they put some thought into it, they would have known that modern monitor hardware tends to be widescreen, and made the thing vertical instead, thus and only wasting 1.6%.
You'd think they'd know that EVE is pretty list heavy and that vertical space isn't something you want to intrude on. Chances are they made the old neocom vertical for that very reason` yyy tIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡` you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.v y Karath Piki |

Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.06 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ohanka Its not needed, the old one is fine. waste of time and money.
I agree, being able to set the font to something readable is for chumps.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.02.06 10:51:00 -
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/not signed
Neocom is the least important part of UI which otherwise screams for complete overhaul.
Besides, I don't like that Win7/MacOS hybrid layout.
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Efraya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.06 11:02:00 -
[90]
Signed. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
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