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Dan Pyre
Amarr COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:54:00 -
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Heya everyone,
I've been working to make my own solo PvP video after watching so many others, so I've purchased the full version of Fraps and downloaded Windows Live Movie Maker. I've recorded some fights and decided last night to attempt to edit some of the footage into a cohesive video as a starting point. I've hit two obstacles however:
1. If I speed up the video playback speed to 2x, some parts in the video actually 'lag' - as in bad framerate, jittering, and cutting. It's not smooth at all. It usually occurs in the middle of my footage but then smooths out towards the end of the video - what is this?
2. How do I get the ability to put the black box over my chat windows? I've read the movie making guides and both the recommended programs were listed at over 500 dollars! On a sidenote, how do I add text to the screen (as in, my narrative and the like?)
Thanks for the help!
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Baal Reshef
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Posted - 2011.02.01 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Baal Reshef on 01/02/2011 15:05:38 Hey Dan,
On your first question, consider that your video is made entirely of still image frames, displayed at a certain frame rate to produce the illusion of moving pictures. So if you have a 1 minute video clip that runs at 30 frames per second, what you really have are 1800 still images being displayed one after another, at 30 images per second. Now when you speed up your video to run at 2 times the normal speed, then you're compressing 3600 images into that 1 minute time frame, but you're still only running at 30 frames per second. So what happens is that video editing software removes every other frame in your video file to make it fit in that one minute. That's what causes the jittering or 'lag' as you call it. The other way to make it smooth is to increase the frame rate to 60 fps, which would create a larger output file (about twice as big). Then you can of course fiddle around with using 20 fps and then 40 for the fast pieces, etc.
Some of the fancier $500+ software suites have better ways of dealing with this type of thing, but Windows Live Movie Maker is your basic tool.
/Baal
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Dan Pyre
Amarr COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2011.02.01 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Baal Reshef Edited by: Baal Reshef on 01/02/2011 15:05:38 Hey Dan, ... then you're compressing 3600 images into that 1 minute time frame, but you're still only running at 30 frames per second.... /Baal
Ah, so the footage I have now is useless? And should I record at 60FPS from now on? It's strange because it does not have the lag effect in the beginning or end of my footage, only right at the middle between transitioning between two clips.
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.02.01 16:49:00 -
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See if your transition is interlacing the 2 clips and maybe consider something like an alpha-fading effect?? |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Fon Revedhort on 01/02/2011 17:49:43
You may call me a penny-pinching bastard, but I don't see how spending 500+$ on a professional program for the sake of non-commercial EVE movie making only is in any way sane or reasonable. You can easily get yourself a working copy like the rest of us. ---[center] Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Prozacxx
Caldari Genos Occidere Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Prozacxx on 01/02/2011 19:18:24 Is this so called lag happening on preview or in the actual rendered project? If on preview it will probably not be on the final rendered project.
On the black box thing you just make a solid black color media and resize it smaller then just move it to where you want it.
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dan Pyre
1. If I speed up the video playback speed to 2x, some parts in the video actually 'lag' - as in bad framerate, jittering, and cutting. It's not smooth at all. It usually occurs in the middle of my footage but then smooths out towards the end of the video - what is this?
It will not appear that way when you actually export/save the video - it's the preview mode which makes it look like that. Even high-end software will not have perfect syncing running on a workstation. You have to remember that the file you are looking at is ·ber-massive. Few HDD's can swap data fast enough with RAM to keep up.
If however you are experiencing this post-export, then I would blame the Fraps files first, or your rendering options second.
Originally by: Dan Pyre
2. How do I get the ability to put the black box over my chat windows?
With difficulty as standard...I'd recommend taking at look at this forum as there are many free plugin's for WMM. The one I am thinking of, but cannot remember the name of, is a selective noise filter, that allows you to blur out parts of the screen - which would pretty much do the same thing as blacking out chat channels.
WMM has come a long way, and the latest version is awesome for popping out eve movies quickly.
AK
EVE-ONLINE Video-Making Tutorials Vid - New Tricks |
Dan Pyre
Amarr COLD-Wing
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Posted - 2011.02.01 23:26:00 -
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Great, thank you all for the responses! I shall look into this and I'll bump the thread if I encounter any more problems. Hopefully the video should be up soon (need to get some more fights! :D)
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2Bad4Ux2
Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.02 00:07:00 -
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for questions involving windows movie maker, Osiris Occido used to have a sticky up here or something, you'd have to search for it now. Covers most of the basic editing and usage of WMM. ------- BTP(new) LTI UTS! WB2A!
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Lexa Hellfury
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.02.02 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: 2Bad4Ux2 for questions involving windows movie maker, Osiris Occido used to have a sticky up here or something, you'd have to search for it now. Covers most of the basic editing and usage of WMM.
It was actually Alley Kat. --------------------------------------------------------------------
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: 2Bad4Ux2 for questions involving windows movie maker, Osiris Occido used to have a sticky up here or something, you'd have to search for it now. Covers most of the basic editing and usage of WMM.
Osiris put together many videos using WMM for the EVE Community to enjoy, but my lil' tutorial just covered the basics of encoding to a resolution beyond the standard 640x480. This was also based off Osiris's guide in his signature, and for anyone using (I stand to be corrected) Windows XP with the older WMM format, it's still valid.
If someone is using Windows Vista or higher, then they will have access to the version of WMM that comes with the Microsoft Live Essentials. This version has an ouput resolution option built-in to the toolbar(!) and my tut is effectively redundant now.
The other tutorials I did are still mostly relevant as they predominately cover Adobe Prem Pro and Sony Vegas, and I do keep upto date on development of those programs. Once/if they become so radically different that the navigation needs a new tutorial, I'll put one together. In addition to that, I really should redo my Fraps tutorial, as this is woefully out of date.
On top of this, I am paying some serious attention to UDK right now and out of that, might come a pre-configured UDK file for creating videos. The big æifÆ centers around how good it would look and whether realistic particle systems can be controlled to my satisfaction.
If so, then IÆd like to release the file coupled with an array of brand new tutorials on how to get the most of the UDK file. If this happens, then it might be a good time to review the general guides on video editing.
AK EVE-ONLINE Video-Making Tutorials Vid - New Tricks |
EddieRio
Minmatar Time Bandits.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Baal Reshef Edited by: Baal Reshef on 01/02/2011 15:05:38 Hey Dan,
On your first question, consider that your video is made entirely of still image frames, displayed at a certain frame rate to produce the illusion of moving pictures. So if you have a 1 minute video clip that runs at 30 frames per second, what you really have are 1800 still images being displayed one after another, at 30 images per second. Now when you speed up your video to run at 2 times the normal speed, then you're compressing 3600 images into that 1 minute time frame, but you're still only running at 30 frames per second. So what happens is that video editing software removes every other frame in your video file to make it fit in that one minute. That's what causes the jittering or 'lag' as you call it. The other way to make it smooth is to increase the frame rate to 60 fps, which would create a larger output file (about twice as big). Then you can of course fiddle around with using 20 fps and then 40 for the fast pieces, etc.
Some of the fancier $500+ software suites have better ways of dealing with this type of thing, but Windows Live Movie Maker is your basic tool.
/Baal
NO! its magic I tell thee,,, Dark mystical magic and all that can do this should be burned alive
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