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Dr Derek
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Posted - 2005.01.26 09:17:00 -
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soon it's time for me to choose between amarr and gallente Heavy Assault Cruiser... pls share your setup and experiance
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Damocles Ician
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Posted - 2005.01.26 09:28:00 -
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<cough!>
Being completely impartial, you should go for an Ishtar :) Seriously though, it's the thinking man's death machine with a 5/5/5 slot layout. -------------
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Dr Derek
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Posted - 2005.01.26 09:43:00 -
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Yea will probably try it if i will go for gallente spec. But i dont like that it's main offence are drones.. drones can easily get killed by smartbombs... Deimos is the badass ship i'm aiming for
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2005.01.26 10:12:00 -
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Hardly anyone fits Smartbombs these days (because they're not as effective against missiles anymore, and Defenders finally work too), everyone just fits a Nos if they have an empty high slot.
And the Ishtar can resist some Nossing, since you'll be fitting a minimum of two medium Nos on it anyway. People underestimate the Ishtar... and for those of us who fly one, it's a good thing.
The Deimos is excellent too of course, for those of us who like it close-range.
I don't know... train both? I have Gallente already, might go for Amarr as well.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.01.26 11:10:00 -
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Stick to your roots, go with a Zealot and kill the Ishtar before it gets within nossing range :D ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.01.26 12:38:00 -
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I know I'll go for both Amarr and Gallente in the long run, I just have to figure out which one to go for first. :)
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Cusi Huaman
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Posted - 2005.01.26 13:00:00 -
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why don't you check on availability of your desired HACs and base your decision on it?
First train for the ship that you can get earlier...
... I want dessert - where is my Overlord?
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JD's
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Posted - 2005.01.26 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Derek soon it's time for me to choose between amarr and gallente Heavy Assault Cruiser... pls share your setup and experiance
go with armarr as its your blood race.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.01.26 14:10:00 -
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As far as I know, the Amarr and Gallente HACs are all fantastic. The Zealot is a powerful med-range damage dealer - great for fast moving gank squads, whilst the Sacrilege is a monster of a tank. The Ishtar is the surprise weapon of choice - packing nearly as much death as a Vampire-Dominix, and much faster. And finally the Deimos - the ship everyone talks about these days it seems - is a close-range terror that doesn't really need much introduction...
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DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.01.26 14:12:00 -
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I agree with others that u should stay with ur race ship but not cos it ur race. Was in fight with enemy sacrilidge not a few days ago and it had a scorp, bb, 2 assault frigs, 2 ceptors and some normal frigs on it and took nearly 3mins for it to go boom with constant fire on it. I would reccommend that as it a SOB with a tank. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
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Dr Derek
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Posted - 2005.01.26 14:51:00 -
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does a HAC work for 0.4 hunting? you know..
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Weirda
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Posted - 2005.01.26 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Derek does a HAC work for 0.4 hunting? you know..
Interesting question (assuming that you talking about sentry fire - as in you other post)... Do the sentries do racial damage - or all types simultaneously...
Gonna have to go tank a few...
Would recommend trying tanking in a .1 system first though (less sentries)... -- Thread Killer
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.01.26 22:35:00 -
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I've been wondering about that too - although I haven't had the balls to try it yet! I reckon something like a Sacrilege could pull it off, since they can tank Raven-fire, but as for the semi-awesome tanks (like the Deimos)...
They'd definitely be awesome belt-hunters, since they're faster than battleships, and most rat-hunters are setup for medium to long-range, and rarely use capacitor disruptors - get under their nose and they're toast.
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.01.26 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 26/01/2005 22:56:24 Everythings good in theory.
I tested my ishtar the other day.
i took on a tempest and a ferox at the same time. I found i was able to tank the damage from both, as i took out the ferox. The tempest was lobbing torpedos at me.
I dont think the ishtar can take out "certain" bs, but could take out other "specific" bs targets with the right setup ;)
Battlescruisers dont stand a chance. Testing on a corp m8 the other day. i was flying ishtar armour tanked, he was flying ferox shield tanked. I took out his shield before he took out mine :)
Ive ordered a deimsos. But i cant realistically think a deimos will be as good as the ishtar (well for pvp anyway).
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Tamerayo
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Posted - 2005.01.26 23:09:00 -
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i havnt seen neither the eagle or cerebrus mentioned in this topic........
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2005.01.26 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tamerayo i havnt seen neither the eagle or cerebrus mentioned in this topic........
are they crap ?
Eagle = very nice sniper ship that kills ceptors and stuff at long range 'cause then tracking doesn't matter :)
Cerberus = High Velocity missile of doom! I think the heavies this ship launches can intercept interceptors :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Arbenowskee
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Posted - 2005.01.27 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tamerayo i havnt seen neither the eagle or cerebrus mentioned in this topic........
are they crap ?
they have low dmg output (compared to other assaults). Both have awsome range, but that range is no good on cerberus, since missiles take forever to hit the target.
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.01.27 01:05:00 -
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At least Cerberus can tank
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Stormking
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Posted - 2005.01.27 01:16:00 -
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Obviously the Ishtar is better pvp in some regards because of its versatility ù light drones can hit interceptors, etc...but is it actually ever better than a Deimos?
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Garramon
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Posted - 2005.01.27 04:48:00 -
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While I should just keep things quiet, I am having a lot of fun in my Cerberus. Those silly frigs that try to scramble it...
But seriously, its not that much good for small engagements where other HACs are present. Fleet engagements are great though. It really is a mini-raven. My heavies are pushing 300 base damage now, with a 95km range.
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Randay
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Posted - 2005.01.27 10:50:00 -
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zealot for teh win! (and teh kill mail )
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Dr Derek
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Posted - 2005.01.27 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda
Originally by: Dr Derek does a HAC work for 0.4 hunting? you know..
Interesting question (assuming that you talking about sentry fire - as in you other post)... Do the sentries do racial damage - or all types simultaneously...
Gonna have to go tank a few...
Would recommend trying tanking in a .1 system first though (less sentries)...
THX!
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Mr Yamakashi
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Posted - 2005.01.27 12:00:00 -
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yes but what about a Eagle with 4 blasters on it
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Tobez
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Posted - 2005.01.27 12:11:00 -
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yey Zealot all the way,
2.1 sec rate of fire with HL IIs hitting hard it alot of damage nearly megabeam damage. Plus i always feel safe in it cos its warps faster LOL.
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Dr Derek
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Posted - 2005.01.27 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Yamakashi yes but what about a Eagle with 4 blasters on it
could work.. blasters with awsome range.. can any1 show us some pic on eagle with blasters
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Vailin Snow
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Posted - 2005.01.27 14:05:00 -
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Sacrelidge for tanking, Zelot for the dammage.
Demious for both at 5k.
Personally, I have both Ammar and I'm not planning on training Gallente....
- Oh look! It's an Omen!... - Oh S**t! I'm in a pod!...
Or my personal favorite, while tanking a raven in a Sacrelidge:
- Why dont you just die!!!!
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Estios
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Posted - 2005.01.27 14:51:00 -
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I personally feel for all round effectiveness the Sac and the Deimos stand about the rest.
The rest can be effective but in a slightly lower amount of situations.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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MECHcore
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Posted - 2005.01.27 15:17:00 -
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i like the eagle , especially for its optimal range bonusses. have heavy assault lvl4 and i use 250mm tech II rails with it and uranium ammo , i hit things between 5-80km and dealing good damage
any other eagle pilots here ?
i use it for hunting in deep 0,0 and for pvp. great ship
... now many will start flaming on me again
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.01.27 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: MECHcore i like the eagle , especially for its optimal range bonusses. have heavy assault lvl4 and i use 250mm tech II rails with it and uranium ammo , i hit things between 5-80km and dealing good damage
any other eagle pilots here ?
i use it for hunting in deep 0,0 and for pvp. great ship
... now many will start flaming on me again
is it a good ship for tanking?
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Tsietisin
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Posted - 2005.01.27 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bad'Boy
Originally by: MECHcore i like the eagle , especially for its optimal range bonusses. have heavy assault lvl4 and i use 250mm tech II rails with it and uranium ammo , i hit things between 5-80km and dealing good damage
any other eagle pilots here ?
i use it for hunting in deep 0,0 and for pvp. great ship
... now many will start flaming on me again
is it a good ship for tanking?
The Eagle is teh uber, with crazy thermal and kinetic resist I can tank damage of deimos and laugh. He do no damage to me, i pwn him with uranium ammo from between 5 and 80km . I tank friend dominix and laugh as his killer bee do crappy damage.
no deimos can hurt me in my eagle. i have 390hp every 4 seconds..
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