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masternerdguy
Gallente Meerkat Maner
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:32:00 -
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http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/49162-Raven-Navy-Issue-Armor-Tanked-Solo-PVP.html#loadout
Here's my question to you ccp: Does that fit work and did you intend the raven to shield tank even though it has no form of tank bonus.
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Dante Marcellus
Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:35:00 -
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I too make spelling errors when I'm enraged and belligerent. And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK. |
Apocos
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:36:00 -
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Dorkus Americanus
The Laugh Factory
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:40:00 -
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Good luck getting CCP to give you an opinion on something as trivial as this, especially with tomorrows expansion. :)
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evil0
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dorkus Americanus Good luck getting CCP to give you an opinion on something as trivial as this, especially with tomorrows expansion. :)
pvp is trivial?
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D'toxed
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:44:00 -
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good luck on something so trivial, especially as CCP just anally humped 0.3% of its playerbase on patch day
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Dorkus Americanus
The Laugh Factory
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: evil0
Originally by: Dorkus Americanus Good luck getting CCP to give you an opinion on something as trivial as this, especially with tomorrows expansion. :)
pvp is trivial?
Never said that. I doubt CCP cares how people set up their ships as long as they aren't breaking any game mechanics, that's what's trivial.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:48:00 -
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+1 from me for being an awesome cnr!
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Captain Megadeath
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Posted - 2011.01.18 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: D'toxed good luck on something so trivial, especially as CCP just anally humped 0.3% of its playerbase on patch day
Poor boo boo must have a 10 year old computer..
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails my name actually is short for catherine
Yeah, Katie Door perhaps...... lol
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Tagera
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Posted - 2011.01.18 03:04:00 -
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Now that is a piece of work. How well does it do?
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Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.18 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Peter XZ on 18/01/2011 03:05:34
Originally by: masternerdguy http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/49162-Raven-Navy-Issue-Armor-Tanked-Solo-PVP.html#loadout
Here's my question to you ccp: Does that fit work and did you intend the raven to shield tank even though it has no form of tank bonus.
Dude isn't there a Corp Dedicated to war dec-ing you for posting stuff like this? How many times you been poddded so far??
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Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 03:21:00 -
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It's on Battleclinic, the **** must be legit.
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:27:00 -
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Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Dmw882
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Posted - 2011.01.18 12:08:00 -
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lol i think that means they dont care
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Pod Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.18 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Megadeath
Originally by: D'toxed good luck on something so trivial, especially as CCP just anally humped 0.3% of its playerbase on patch day
Poor boo boo must have a 10 year old computer..
That is almost comical that CCP even bothered with releasing information on that.
I mean Pentium III really that is almost a museum piece.
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Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2011.01.18 15:08:00 -
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MNG: ships are nudged toward a style of tanking, not fixed there, see gallente for badly fitting bonuses and slot layouts. Asking CCP's opinion on a setup is silly, it does not break any rules, and it is not stellar, even though it is original.
As for armour tanking Caldari ships: look at the Scorp, to optimally sodomise everyone with low sensor strength while benefitting from spider tank they are often armour tanked (and then primaried). ------------------------------------- I like to fly around and shoot stuff.
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Aperture Science inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.18 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: D'toxed good luck on something so trivial, especially as CCP just anally humped 0.3% of its playerbase on patch day
Read closer.
All it says is those people won't be able to play it after deployment, due to CCP not being able to invent a solution right off of the bat during deployment. It does refer them over to support so my bet is CCP will take care of them somehow.. either by a soonTM fix for those poor lads or some sort of refund program.
Tbh, I highly doubt many people that care to pay roughly ten bucks a month for their account(s) would still be running on such hardware, it's unthinkable seeing as you can get a decent P4 (or amd equiv ofc) for 10-20 bucks... hell I'm sure people THROW AWAY hardware newer than that. __________________________________________________
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2011.01.18 18:27:00 -
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yea that tank does work and yes you might kill a REALLY bad ratter in low sec or 0.0 if you're lucky but the fit in general sucks ass you've kinda forgot to fit damage mods on there and alot of ships don't have a tanking bonus but to be fair you've found a new way to fit a raven that no one else has ever tried other than for giggles
oh and the nos on my geddon is better than the nos on your raven cause i'll always have lower cap than you since my rep on it's own and guns eats more cap than your reps saves me fittin a cap booster since you'll be feedin my ship too :)
p.s. where do you fly it i could do with a faction rep?
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Sewer Urchin
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:07:00 -
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It's a troll, if it isn't then F U masternerdguy.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:13:00 -
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I actually want a CCP official oppony. I'm not sure which of us is more likely to get our wish.
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De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:22:00 -
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Reported for trolling.
Continue to report this troll's post. Eventually CCP will ban him.
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Ephemeron
Lubricous Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:24:00 -
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I looked at the fit, it seems mostly alright except the part with 2 medium cap injectors. That's just ******ed. Fit another grid rig and put heavy cap injector, and in the free medium slot put ECM burst, or scrambler, or sensor booster
Overall, I wouldn't recommend to "solo" with that, mostly due to agility problems and lack of cloak. No cloak - guaranteed death to blob.
Also, I don't believe CCP are more experienced with fine points of PvP than most players. For example, in recent CSM discussion, the devs claimed that they see nothing wrong with hybrids. They claimed that blasters fulfill their role of being the highest damage weapon in game. How can you take seriously anyone who claims that?
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Target Painter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.19 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron Overall, I wouldn't recommend to "solo" with that, mostly due to agility problems and lack of cloak. No cloak - guaranteed death to blob.
I'm certain it's a bait setup. I once lost a Vagabond to something similar, he waited until he hit armor to (faction) web and (faction) scram me.
Quote: Also, I don't believe CCP are more experienced with fine points of PvP than most players.
No ****. I mean, the blaster thing takes about two weeks of playing around with different races T1 cruisers to see the imbalance (everyone else gets to apply their damage in most cases; blasters do not).
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Jimmy Doe
POS Consultants Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:41:00 -
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maybe i'm a bit silly but explain to me how they were wrong please. I mean just looking at the math when comparing apples to apples:
Base stats: (turret ships only)
Mega Pulse laser II 7.875 ROF 3.6 Damage multiplier
Neutron Blaster II 7.875 ROF 4.2 Damage Multiplier
800mm Autocannon II 7.875 ROF 3.234 Damage Multiplier
Ammo, close range, high damage:
Void L -- 30.8 Kinetic, 30.8 Thermal (61.6 total dmg mod) Conflag L 30.8 EM, 30.8 Thermal (61.6 total dmg mod) Hail L -- 48.4 EXP, 13.2 Kinetic (60.6 total dmg mod)
All 3 gallente BS's get up to a 25% bonus to weapon dmg, while only the Tempest and Abaddon get bonuses to dmg. Basically, as long as you have BS 5, no matter what Gallente BS you get into, you get a 25% dmg bonus. Minmatar get rof bonuses out the wazoo, but gallente over power them with higher colley dmg at close range, same with amarr.
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Harika Gulan
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Posted - 2011.01.19 13:58:00 -
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As certain nasty old men say: you can't always get what you want - you get what you need.
And for the op it seems like he needs a stern talking-to.
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Willmahh
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Posted - 2011.01.19 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Willmahh on 19/01/2011 15:14:14 quote=D'toxed]good luck on something so trivial, especially as CCP just anally humped 0.3% of its playerbase on patch day
every company eventually has to stop supporting ancient technology. It costs a lot of money to support archaic stuff (and the P3 is archaic
Dual development to support legacy hardware or code is one reason why so much stuff is buggy in the PC world.
I think it was a sensible decision. Geez, your Iphone has more computing power then a P3!
Do what everyone else has done and donate that thing to a preschool or homeless shelter...
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Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.01.19 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Doe maybe i'm a bit silly but explain to me how they were wrong please. I mean just looking at the math when comparing apples to apples:
Base stats: (turret ships only)
Mega Pulse laser II 7.875 ROF 3.6 Damage multiplier
Neutron Blaster II 7.875 ROF 4.2 Damage Multiplier
800mm Autocannon II 7.875 ROF 3.234 Damage Multiplier
Ammo, close range, high damage:
Void L -- 30.8 Kinetic, 30.8 Thermal (61.6 total dmg mod) Conflag L 30.8 EM, 30.8 Thermal (61.6 total dmg mod) Hail L -- 48.4 EXP, 13.2 Kinetic (60.6 total dmg mod)
All 3 gallente BS's get up to a 25% bonus to weapon dmg, while only the Tempest and Abaddon get bonuses to dmg. Basically, as long as you have BS 5, no matter what Gallente BS you get into, you get a 25% dmg bonus. Minmatar get rof bonuses out the wazoo, but gallente over power them with higher colley dmg at close range, same with amarr.
And now then look at the optimal range and falloff of each of the weapon systems, in particular Scorch, Null and Barrage ammo, now see the problem.
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Jimmy Doe
POS Consultants Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.01.20 05:50:00 -
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Scorch = 50% range Null = 25%, 25% range bonus Barrage = 50% falloff
Null gives you a bonus not only to your optimal, but also to your falloff. It's called balanced.
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Hex'Caliber
Gallente Massively Mob
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:22:00 -
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People post and fly comedy fit tanks all the time, like shield tanked Gallente recon or myrm', get over it; as for expecting a personal reply, pull your head out of your ass the suns shining outside. Regards HexCaliber,
Mankinds greatest Strength and greatest weakness is hope.
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Hex'Caliber
Gallente Massively Mob
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Posted - 2011.01.20 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jimmy Doe maybe i'm a bit silly but explain to me how they were wrong please. I mean just looking at the math when comparing apples to apples:
Base stats: (turret ships only)
Mega Pulse laser II 7.875 ROF 3.6 Damage multiplier
Neutron Blaster II 7.875 ROF 4.2 Damage Multiplier
800mm Autocannon II 7.875 ROF 3.234 Damage Multiplier
Ammo, close range, high damage:
Void L -- 30.8 Kinetic, 30.8 Thermal (61.6 total dmg mod) Conflag L 30.8 EM, 30.8 Thermal (61.6 total dmg mod) Hail L -- 48.4 EXP, 13.2 Kinetic (60.6 total dmg mod)
All 3 gallente BS's get up to a 25% bonus to weapon dmg, while only the Tempest and Abaddon get bonuses to dmg. Basically, as long as you have BS 5, no matter what Gallente BS you get into, you get a 25% dmg bonus. Minmatar get rof bonuses out the wazoo, but gallente over power them with higher colley dmg at close range, same with amarr.
Because cap use, tracking, optimal, falloff, ship speed, agility, slot layouts, cpu, pg, and other modules don't come into the equation at any point whatsoever. Stop playing with eft and get out there and start flying the damn things, and see how your theory crafting works in practice.
Regards HexCaliber,
Mankinds greatest Strength and greatest weakness is hope.
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