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Sefiaa
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:47:00 -
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So I'm not sure if this is a chance happening or if this is a new trend but within the past two days I have stumbled upon two different wormholes (one class 3 and one class 4) that have a territorial claim unit anchored. The corps in the wormholes are seemingly unconnected.
I have never seen this before in the past year that I've lived in a wormhole and figured that it was just chance happening to run into these people in such a close timeframe. The first one I lol'd at and the second had me wanting to make sure that there were no advantages to setting one up (which I am 99.9% sure of given the space is "unclaimable").
Anyway, tl;dr: I found WH corps with territorial claim units up in WHs, figured they were being idiots, but wanted to double check to make sure there were no advantages to it.
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Compleat Bacon
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:50:00 -
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It certainly gives a visible "Someone claims this system" marker.
Kinda like a dog marking a fire hydrant.
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dkbjitawhore
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:51:00 -
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It lets them put a flag up and claim the system as theirs to anyone that stumbles across the system(You can still see what corp anchored it).
This serves to dissuade another corp from moving in.
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Sefiaa
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Compleat Bacon
It certainly gives a visible "Someone claims this system" marker.
Kinda like a dog marking a fire hydrant.
Yeah, I kind of figured that as well. However, it also gives the corps POS direct visibility given that both were stationed next to it. Some prefer it stealthy, some want to their presence known, I guess.
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:56:00 -
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That doesn't make sense. I was under the impression that WH space cannot be claimed.
Unless they just want to indicate to other people that they are working there??
Perhaps my understanding is wrong...?
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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Iamien on 12/01/2011 14:57:22
Originally by: Sefiaa
Originally by: Compleat Bacon
It certainly gives a visible "Someone claims this system" marker.
Kinda like a dog marking a fire hydrant.
Yeah, I kind of figured that as well. However, it also gives the corps POS direct visibility given that both were stationed next to it. Some prefer it stealthy, some want to their presence known, I guess.
TCUs can be anchored anywhere. This corp probably just wanted to put it somewhere where their posguns could pop any uncloaking mosquitoes that were attracted by the light.
Originally by: SkinSin
Unless they just want to indicate to other people that they are working there??
This is correct. their is no sov in wormholes but TCUs can be used in this way.
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Sefiaa
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: SkinSin
That doesn't make sense. I was under the impression that WH space cannot be claimed.
Unless they just want to indicate to other people that they are working there??
Perhaps my understanding is wrong...?
No, you are right. Which was why it didn't make sense to me. I figured there was another advantage, which others have noted. It is to make your presence known to those who enter the system.
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sefiaa
Originally by: Compleat Bacon
It certainly gives a visible "Someone claims this system" marker.
Kinda like a dog marking a fire hydrant.
Yeah, I kind of figured that as well. However, it also gives the corps POS direct visibility given that both were stationed next to it. Some prefer it stealthy, some want to their presence known, I guess.
Stealth probably means they are not a big fish and therefore trying to get as much out of the WH as they can before they are noticed.
Those with presence probably fall under two headings:
1) They're the big fish.
2) They're a puffer fish blowing themselves up to look like a big fish.
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Sefiaa
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Posted - 2011.01.12 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Iamien
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Yeah, I know they can be put anywhere. It just so happened that both of these were near their POSes. Oddly, they were not in a position to uncloak me when I warped to 0 at their moon. Heh.
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Sefiaa
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Posted - 2011.01.12 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Forum Guy
Originally by: Sefiaa
Originally by: Compleat Bacon
It certainly gives a visible "Someone claims this system" marker.
Kinda like a dog marking a fire hydrant.
Yeah, I kind of figured that as well. However, it also gives the corps POS direct visibility given that both were stationed next to it. Some prefer it stealthy, some want to their presence known, I guess.
Stealth probably means they are not a big fish and therefore trying to get as much out of the WH as they can before they are noticed.
Those with presence probably fall under two headings:
1) They're the big fish.
2) They're a puffer fish blowing themselves up to look like a big fish.
Yeah, I can see how it could be a good bluff for a smaller, weaker corp. Nice point.
And to everything, thanks for the quick responses!
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Darth McDarth
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Posted - 2011.01.12 16:44:00 -
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We put up one next to our pos so we could have an easy, safe warp-to point on our overview. So you don't have to find your ss bookmark if you're in a hurry. Align to tcu, if someone decloaks insta-warp, if they follow you the pos bbq's them.
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H3llHound
Nex Exercitus
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.12 16:47:00 -
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It saves us wormholers the hassle to use dscan and probes and look for enemy POSes 
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Sefiaa
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Posted - 2011.01.12 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: H3llHound
It saves us wormholers the hassle to use dscan and probes and look for enemy POSes
That was exactly my line of thinking 
@ Darth McDarth: That is a pretty neat idea, but *shrug* I still prefer to have people hunt out my POS or suffer the consequences of not doing so.  To each their own.
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Siyk
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Posted - 2011.01.12 17:27:00 -
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Naaaaaaaa, you're alright.
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Zaboth Garadath
Amarr
Ore Extraction Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.12 18:03:00 -
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They are usually put up as bait. Anyone who warps to one gets caught in a bubble with many cans for decloaking, next to a POS.
insta-death
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Green-Core
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.12 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zaboth Garadath
They are usually put up as bait. Anyone who warps to one gets caught in a bubble with many cans for decloaking, next to a POS.
insta-death
And this is why you never, never, EVER warp to anything in a WH at 0 unless it's the inside of your POS.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.12 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Zaboth Garadath
They are usually put up as bait. Anyone who warps to one gets caught in a bubble with many cans for decloaking, next to a POS.
insta-death
And this is why you never, never, EVER warp to anything in a WH at 0 unless it's the inside of your POS.
If bubbles in wspace work the same way as in kspace, it won't matter whether you warp in at 0 or 100 km. You still get pulled in.
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Ryhss
Caldari
QuanNet Evolved
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Posted - 2011.01.12 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Compleat Bacon
It certainly gives a visible "Someone claims this system" marker.
Kinda like a dog marking a fire hydrant.
Until the next dog comes along....
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Buz Kilington
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Posted - 2011.01.12 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: H3llHound
It saves us wormholers the hassle to use dscan and probes and look for enemy POSes
How so?
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.01.12 20:23:00 -
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I've seen moon harvesting arrays in POSs in wspace as well.
Some people just aren't that bright.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.12 20:40:00 -
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TCU are more of a sign that says:
* There are (stupid) people here, so look for them and attack them, instead of passing-thru.
* We have so much ISK that you should ransom us.
* We don't have a clue what we are doing, so you should attack us.
* We have really big egos, so we dare you to knock that chip off our shoulder.
Really, in w-space you want to keep as cheap and low-key a presence a possible. You don't want to attract attention.
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Sefiaa
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Posted - 2011.01.12 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander
TCU are more of a sign that says:
* There are (stupid) people here, so look for them and attack them, instead of passing-thru.
* We have so much ISK that you should ransom us.
* We don't have a clue what we are doing, so you should attack us.
* We have really big egos, so we dare you to knock that chip off our shoulder.
Really, in w-space you want to keep as cheap and low-key a presence a possible. You don't want to attract attention.
This. Definitely.
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