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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:00:00 -
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While not mining for a week sounds easy, try doing it in a corp of miners and the corp chat that then ensues. Also another forum poster pointed out try telling a pvper they can't do anything [I]but[/] mine 4 a week. Pvper will cry at that quite quick! My event gives an aditional option for both pvpers and miners during hulkageddon. My event was originally invented to save corp chat in a humor-based high sec corp and now that it is public has found many people who find it more fun than missioning for a week. Get 1000 page hits a day now.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.19 05:41:00 -
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hell of a difference... hulkageddon's got near 500 kills, you guys have... 9
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Alvaliel
La-Resistance
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Posted - 2011.02.19 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira hell of a difference... hulkageddon's got near 500 kills, you guys have... 9
Sooo let me see: the gankers can roam about freely, choosing where & when they attack - anything & anywhere from a chance encounter with a random industrial slowboating it to a gate in a trade hub, to a (stupid) lone hulk in a belt in a border system... gates, stations, belts, it's all good.
The counter-gankers on the other hand, need to somehow be sitting ready & in weapons range, BEFORE the gankers start their attack and they then have 20 seconds max to get a lock & shot off before Concord shows up & pops everyone.
Do you expect the people taking part in griefer-geddon, people who normally don't take part in PvP & instead prefer to PvE, to sacrifice a lot of their hard earned security status & isk to suicide themselves against someone that they suspect may be a ganker? To just shoot everything yellow that they encounter & take the isk, sec status & GCC time wastage like a man?
Maybe they should all just organize and have 1 ship sitting in every belt & at every gate/station in high sec - twiddling their thumbs & doing nothing for a week in the hopes that gankers will show up... real fun & productive. That said, there are small groups of us hanging around in most heavy mining systems & ice fields but it is boring as hell (worse than mining in fact) as the gankers always seem to be attacking elsewhere.
Oh I know! We could war dec the Hulkageddon Orphanage and some of the companies taking part - PvE people & corps wardeccing pirate corps, what a fantastic idea and I'm sure that will end well! Taking away the only advantage (Concord) that the PvEers have in high sec...
Hell of a difference indeed - that's what happens when you force others to play a cowardly game by your rules.
Tell ya what though - get yourself down to outlaw status, give us a chance to shoot at you and then we'll see... although I have to say, even then it's hard to get a shot off as most outlaws & gankers seem to be taking the approach of waiting in a station while they scout with an alt before running out, ganking & running back to said station...
Yeah, you're totally right - we should be ashamed of ourselves, how could any self respecting miner NOT get a kill when all we have to do is use precrime techniques to predict when & where these fast moving roaming gangs will attack! |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.19 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 19/02/2011 15:23:06 Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 19/02/2011 15:18:49 Good job, yer up to 16 lol
Hulkageddon is up to 458 lol
a.) Im not a pirate, Im a missioner, well technically Im an alt b.) I wasnt going on some huge long winded tirade about how you are wrong for fighting back or whatever that giant post was about, I was laughing at the numbers. Thank you for proving you have far too thin a skin to be playing this game. c.) If you are suicide bombing yellows, this early into it, you might be targeting the wrong people... most Hulkageddon players have a long tradition of creating an alt to compete with, then biomasses them afterwards. So this early in, they shouldnt be yellow yet
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.19 19:27:00 -
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We have so far encountered other people killing gankers who are doing it solo and not part of this event, and do not post on the kill board. Will need to do a better job of reaching them next time.
Given that this is a counter-event, and we kill a sub-set of people who gank, the lower numbers are too be expected. They are I admit somewhat lower than I'd hoped, but it's still early.
Anyone who has watched Red Dwarf, especially series 6 episode Gunmen of the Apocalypse, may find this illustration amusing http://noprisonersnomercy.com/tag/griefer-geddon/ Especially since they seem to have come to the Wild West theme without ever having seen the episode.
*looks around for some whiskey*
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.20 02:46:00 -
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Some news from experience:
contrary to what they posted on the forums prior, they don't like to get podded.
While shooting non-red pods is a valid way of getting points, no one has done this yet. I don't understand the debate about this as if ganking in high sec does not result in -5 sec status eventually. We have, however, made good use of locator agents and existing -sec status pilots to pod them.
Also even those participants who have yet failed to get a kill watch gankers scatter and run away from their presence. Will need to come up with a prize to reflect this sort of effect next time -- a small prize of course since it would be entirely subjective -- scare crow award for most time spent scaring away would-be gankers w/o getting any/many kills.
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iErgo Proxy
Gallente The Awakening Depths
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Posted - 2011.02.20 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: iErgo Proxy on 20/02/2011 13:39:44 i'm in, i'm already kill a Bastard Anathema
http://griefergeddon.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=23
gogogo guys, kill those bastards
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Maverick2011
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Posted - 2011.02.21 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Maverick2011 on 21/02/2011 15:25:27 Funny as how small, pathethic and useless this event is, it was enough to call attention of "pvpers" afraid to die to a carebear. Funny to see them here saying they dont care or are not afraid when they could simply ignore this topic if they were real so sure of themselves.
You see the difference betwen a pvper and a griefer. The pvper didnt post. The griefer (wannabepvper)did. Thats why I respect a pvper as cruel as he can be, they still have their own sense of justice (like the good guys are the evil ones and should all die).
And griefers are just those who bring their real life suffering to a game. Trying to get rid of their real problems into a virtual world. Weak people.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.23 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Maverick2011 Edited by: Maverick2011 on 21/02/2011 15:25:27 Funny as how small, pathethic and useless this event is, it was enough to call attention of "pvpers" afraid to die to a carebear. Funny to see them here saying they dont care or are not afraid when they could simply ignore this topic if they were real so sure of themselves.
You see the difference betwen a pvper and a griefer. The pvper didnt post. The griefer (wannabepvper)did. Thats why I respect a pvper as cruel as he can be, they still have their own sense of justice (like the good guys are the evil ones and should all die).
And griefers are just those who bring their real life suffering to a game. Trying to get rid of their real problems into a virtual world. Weak people.
pretty much what I was saying in another thread where the griefergeddon guys tried to flame me for saying it lolz ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.24 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
pretty much what I was saying in another thread where the griefergeddon guys tried to flame me for saying it lolz
I think you meant "hulkageddon"
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Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
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Posted - 2011.02.25 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: Pehk Mak''mel''ahma on 25/02/2011 06:36:08 Mechanoid:
As I mentioned in another thread, I planned to monitor both the Hulkageddon IV killboard and your own event's killboard. While Hulkageddon IV has had more kills, you did well with the numbers you have racked up. I hope the next 3 days go very well for you.
Congratulations!
Pehk
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2011.02.26 00:07:00 -
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I'm one of the people taking part in griefer-geddon and I just wanted to say thanks to Kryten for all of his time, effort & hard work in organising this event - it's made hulkageddon into a fun(ish) challenge for me instead of a week to be avoided and it's thought me the basics of hunting targets in Eve... lord help me, I may be developing a taste for high sec gate camps :S
Speaking as a PvP newbie, it's been a blast in general and there's a LOT to be said for the thrill & satisfaction of the hunt - in trying to chase down a target, work out where they're going to be and come up with a strategy & fit to try to catch them.
There have been some lolsome & heart-pounding moments too - my favourite being my rifter taking down a Brutix... I was high sec gate camping expecting to see some destroyers jumping in from low sec, next thing the gate goes nuts, I ready my warp disruptor and blindly click on the first red thing that decloaks... imagine my pants soiling surprise when I see that it's a very angry looking Brutix and that I now can't stop the disruptor from locking on & activating :O
I bravely ran away as quick as I could but somehow my 3 seconds of point was enough to snare him for the local fuzz who took him down.
I've also gotten my first pod kills ever... much like high sec camping, I've got to admit that the rush is addictive and I can't help but corpse collect :S
I've ended up speaking to a few of the hulkageddoners as well and, as angry as this is going to make some people, it must be said that they're generally decent, down to earth guys with a good sense of humour... it is purely a fun game to them - a new set of challenges to play under, a change of pace & they also get a kick from strategising, organising & carrying out well planned ganks.
The naysayers may try to convince you that griefer-geddon doesn't make a difference to the activities of the hulkageddoners, and I have to admit that when I first started taking part in this I felt somewhat like that - it felt like it was just symbolic resistance more than anything else.
As the week has gone on however, I can say with full confidence that griefer-geddon HAS stopped some ganks and saved a few ships (e.g. when 2 or 3 destroyers from the gank group are picked off at gates) and it does make the life of the hulkageddoners that little bit inconvenient & uncomfortable... they have to be careful moving through high sec, keeping an eye out for those that might be hunting for them and podding is always a setback to them (though not a major one as they expect it to happen).
It makes a difference to some miners as well - I got an unexpected, but very much needed, donation from a hulkageddon victim as a thank you for happening to pod the guy who had blown up their barge... it's the little things like that, along with the more memorable hunts & catches that make it all worthwhile :)
Sooo there ya go... typed while sitting at a high sec gate, hoping & waiting for some targets to jump through...
It's still not too late to get involved and it's very easy to do - get into any sensor boosted ship (I'd recommend 1000 scan res absolute minimum), add a warp disruptor and head to wherever there's been ganks recently... use locator agents to figure out what routes are being used by the hulkageddoners, watch the hulkageddon killboard to see which systems are being hit and the rest is up to luck & timing.
Many thanks & congrats once again to Kryten for organising this great event & happy hunting all o/ |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.26 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Amael Galenus
The naysayers may try to convince you that griefer-geddon doesn't make a difference to the activities of the hulkageddoners
201 kills to 2931 huge difference you all made. GJ!
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raney ilara
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Posted - 2011.02.26 11:22:00 -
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Quote: 201 kills to 2931 huge difference you all made. GJ!
That's actually pretty good. I would wager there are somewhat fewer grie***eddon players involved compared to hulkageddon players.
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2011.02.26 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Amael Galenus on 26/02/2011 12:40:50
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Originally by: Amael Galenus
The naysayers may try to convince you that griefer-geddon doesn't make a difference to the activities of the hulkageddoners
201 kills to 2931 huge difference you all made. GJ!
So this is like, what, your 5th time posting this comparison on the forums? Trying to put the event down? I'm glad to see this event really bugging you - you must be one of the fail gankers that keeps getting caught or podded repeatedly before you can reach your target or Concord shows up. You say that you're a miner & mission runner yet in other threads you've been asking for mission runners to be added to the list of targets and are celebrating hulkageddon ganks... if you're going to troll, it helps if you keep your true tendencies & desires hidden.
FYI it's currently 268 to 2888 - GJ on understating the griefer-geddon kills while exaggerating the hulkageddon numbers (especially seeing as how the latter hasn't reached 2931 at the time of this writing).
We've been holding at a 1:10 ratio for the last few days now - considering that there's only around 15 "regulars" in griefer-geddon, I'd say that this is exceptionally good... 15 people able to keep a 1:10 ratio against hundreds of hulkageddon participants? And as Alviel mentioned - it's even more exceptional when you consider that we have to be one step ahead of the Hulkageddoners at all times.
Anyway, it's clear from your obsession with raw kill numbers that you don't get the point of griefer-geddon, that you're a gatecamping stat padder who can't understand that 1 kill is not equal to another and that 1 kill can, and has, saved a miners ship thanks to this event.
Post with your main and let's see what you can do - can you succeed in either event? It doesn't look like it so far... |
Earis3
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Posted - 2011.02.26 14:16:00 -
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well I was never into this to kill those that were griefing but more into annoying the hell out of the them while they try, my main thing has been to RR miners that needed it, yes I did help the main man, yes I have been wardecced for it, and you know what I would do it again in a heartbeat, teach these stupid wannabee carebear PVP's that pickng on a defenseless miner is not gonna be easy, Hulkagedoon has been fun, purely because I have stopped counteless gankers getting the kill - roll on next time - Mech good job and next time we will have them even better.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.26 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 26/02/2011 20:33:37
Originally by: Amael Galenus *tears*
moar tears!!
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1447354&page=2#55
This IS my main .... on this account lol But yea, no. Not gonna give away my corp so you can warec me cause I made you cry in rage on the forums, sorry :D
As far as "exaggerating" yeah... http://hulkageddon4.machine9.net/killboard/?&scl_id= learn to read maybe? and as far as your stats.... http://griefergeddon.griefwatch.net/?p=monthly Unless youre counting CONCORD kills too.......
And ... lol "gatecamping QQ QQ QQ *tears*" comment. Im a missioning carebear. Who loves to make puffed up self important ppl cry on the forums, nothing more.
And, no, the event isnt "bugging" me, collecting your tears is just too fun. I can see the reason hulkageddon goes on now if the miners tears are anything like this lol
man, I love you guys, really lol ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.26 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Originally by: Maverick2011 Edited by: Maverick2011 on 21/02/2011 15:25:27 Funny as how small, pathethic and useless this event is, it was enough to call attention of "pvpers" afraid to die to a carebear. Funny to see them here saying they dont care or are not afraid when they could simply ignore this topic if they were real so sure of themselves.
You see the difference betwen a pvper and a griefer. The pvper didnt post. The griefer (wannabepvper)did. Thats why I respect a pvper as cruel as he can be, they still have their own sense of justice (like the good guys are the evil ones and should all die).
And griefers are just those who bring their real life suffering to a game. Trying to get rid of their real problems into a virtual world. Weak people.
pretty much what I was saying in another thread where the griefergeddon guys tried to flame me for saying it lolz
I have no oppinion as to the tears that miners have been spreading on other threads. However, ok, i'll bite. First there is "And griefers are just those who bring their real life suffering to a game" and then there is my "small, pathethic and useless" which is what you, Kensgutie "pretty much what I was saying in another thread"
Ok, kengutsi, so you don't really like anything and you want to as per your signature use your foot creatively on everybody's rear end. Ok I get it. But surely there is something you DO like? You couldn't possible be spending so much effort posting these posts if you liked nothing at all about eve.
You say you are a missioner. Ok. Do you like missions? What do you like about them? You clearly spend a lot of time on the forums reading these threads and responding to them quickly -- perhaps you are a big fan of eve forums?
C'mon I challenge you! say something nice about something or someone somewhere, even if it's only "I like the way Hellicity extracts tears!"
Here, I'll go first:
My event has fewer kills than the largest event in eve today. Ok fine. I'll admit that. But I have also enjoyed running it. Thanks to GrieferGeddon i was able to enjoy playing in the sandbox that is EVE. Instead of feeling bad about Hulkageddon, I'm somewhat sorry to see it go, and I even can't wait to see the next one. I discovered I like pvp -- provided that i can do it while mining. It's a real thrill watching a bunch of dessys warp into my belt knowing they are all gonna blow up and I won't. I'll miss them!
This is a game and I'm enjoying playing it my way. Sandbox and all that. And I now have an invitation to go on a roam with The Bastards, which I think I will accept if they can promise me no high sec greifing.
Now you go. What do you actually *enjoy*? anything? at all?
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.26 21:21:00 -
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roflmao a oltta stuff in the above youre assuming bud.... you know what assume does right?
My sig is a quote from "That 70's Show" so, no, I dont want to "as per your signature use your foot creatively on everybody's rear end."
But I gotta go out to a dinner. So when I return, ill reply further
Till then, making you reply like the above, I enjoy that... oooh an that 70s show more later ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.26 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Till then, making you reply like the above, I enjoy that... oooh an that 70s show more later
Been a while since i seen that 70's show. Maybe next time I'm marathon-mining I'll watch it after mining hour 20 or so. So who is your fav character? Bet u it's that guy with the sunglasses who sits in the back of the group all the time making comments.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.02.27 01:56:00 -
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Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 27/02/2011 02:01:17
Originally by: Mechanoid Kryten
Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Till then, making you reply like the above, I enjoy that... oooh an that 70s show more later
Been a while since i seen that 70's show. Maybe next time I'm marathon-mining I'll watch it after mining hour 20 or so. So who is your fav character? Bet u it's that guy with the sunglasses who sits in the back of the group all the time making comments.
Either Red and his foot in the ass comments or Eric. Hyde is the guy yer thinking of
I like the game, I been spending a lotta time on the forums lately cause Im grinding my rep through Amar and running Is and IIs gets tiring. I like watching the purty explosions the ships make, the isk I make in blowin them up. I havent much been in the game today as literally all my mission systems have become sansha incursions and I dont wanna have anything to do with that. EVE forums are fun, ppl are serus biznus an all on this game so its easy to provoke explosions lol challenge accepted. I like my friends in EVE. Theyre fun to mission with. Hey, I like you too, yer reactions are fun too.
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Mechanoid Kryten
N0VA 5
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Posted - 2011.02.28 02:01:00 -
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It's been a blast with 90 people posting on the kill board and 140 kills that were NOT joint-with-CONCORD kills.
The prizes have been tallied up (Thanks Amael Galenus) and his nice spread sheet that I'm going to upload to eve-files at some point so anyone that has any concerns can download and double-check once i double-check it myself and verify that it co-coincides with the kill board and with the api key info.
I'll EDIT this post when the spread sheet is available for download, but i won't bump this thread anymore, probably to everyone's relief.
I have not handed out the prizes yet as they are unverified. Will do so ASAP and update the prizes page on GrieferGeddon as each one is handed out. Espeically the No-Tears section may take a couple of weeks to update. I only have 3 submissions but there is a long convo that resulted in the retraction of a war dec that i want to post as an exmaple of anti-gankers getting along with a ganker with no tears involved.
This a fun ride and I promise to be there for the next Hulkageddon.
It was especially thrilling to make friends during this event. I am now on good terms with Ehnea's mack and will be posting my ore totals toward his event. I am on good terms with The Bastards and will be joining them for a roam (eeek!). And I may even be on good terms with Kengutsi Akira. I like you too, man, and thanks for bumping my thread for me so many, many times
Cya next time to make it harder on the gankers.
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Ehnea Mehk
Minmatar ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
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Posted - 2011.02.28 03:30:00 -
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Mechanoid, just wanted to congratulate you on a well-done event. It's not easy to run something in the face of Hulkaggedon but I think you did great. Give yourself a pat on the back and take pride in your efforts. Can't wait to see what you come up with next time when Hulkageddon V rolls around in the summertime!
Ehnea Mehk
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions |
Graf Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.28 15:08:00 -
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Top individual Killer gets 2 Billion. 165 Iterons to win would have cost about 150 mill. Buy the ships get your friends/corp mates/Alts to fly to a nice safe place and blow them up and take top prize[s]
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Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2011.02.28 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ehnea Mehk Mechanoid, just wanted to congratulate you on a well-done event. It's not easy to run something in the face of Hulkaggedon but I think you did great. Give yourself a pat on the back and take pride in your efforts. Can't wait to see what you come up with next time when Hulkageddon V rolls around in the summertime!
Hear hear! Couldn't have said it better myself
Thanks & congrats once again Kryten - it has indeed been a blast and an experience... without you & griefer-geddon, I would never have had the opportunity to disco-geddon "The Bastards" or go outlaw hunting without getting a war dec, fun times! |
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