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vance leon
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Posted - 2010.12.29 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: vance leon on 29/12/2010 14:09:33
This might be an age old question but why hasn't ccp released a capital mining vessel? I don't mean the orca or rorqual because those you can't put harvestor II or strip miners on. There needs to be a capital version of the hulk for 0.0 and low sec. If you think about it, battle ships have the t1 version then the t2 and finally the dreadnaugt or carrier. Why not do the same for the exhumers? Call it overpowered for mining if you will, but it would be a good idea IMHO. Give it something like 8 highs for 8 strip miners or make a capital strip might er or something similar. Its just a thought all well.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.29 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Lyris Nairn on 29/12/2010 14:42:35
And then what will you say when the price of minerals goes down drastically due to the huge influx of them?
One pilot having one of these would see his profits go up dramatically in comparison to flying a hulk.
Every capable pilot having one of these would mean that such pilots would make a small margin above flying a hulk, and everyone else who flies any other type of mining vessel would see greatly reduced profits.
I approve of this idea: it's a great way to further kill an already-boring profession that's mostly populated by macro bots and clueless newbies.
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Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
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Posted - 2010.12.29 14:52:00 -
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as far as i'm aware, i don't think there's anything stopping you from fittin a dread with mining lazers.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2010.12.29 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Iosue
as far as i'm aware, i don't think there's anything stopping you from fittin a dread with mining lazers.
Just ask Chribba about his veldnaught  
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shady trader
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Posted - 2010.12.29 16:24:00 -
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Do a search in the features and idea's forum and you will find a number of threads discussing different capital mining ships. (eve-search.com)
The main issue is that people want a capital that out mines the hulk and CCP have said that the Hulk is going to remain the king of mining for the foreseeable future.
Now having a capital ship that with max skills and fittings falls just behind the hulk maybe a option. You trade a little yield and a much higher price for a significantly better tank and the ability to jump out of harms way.
As other have said there is nothing stopping you slapping miner 2 and mining upgrades to your dreadnought for low sec mining.
Give the current limitations of the dreadnought, it could do with being able to fit an industrial core instead of a siege module to allow it to significantly increase the yield of miners fitted to it. This way at least all the care bears in 0.0 can start to train capital ship skills that they can use for POS bashing.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.12.29 19:17:00 -
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The Hulk is the peak of where they want to take it for very specific economic complexity reasons.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.12.30 11:11:00 -
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Capital mining is a lie
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Emporer Norton
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Posted - 2010.12.30 16:27:00 -
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I wouldn't mind a capital strip miner say something with a yield between a maxed covetor and hulk only be able to fit one and have a much greater range then a regular strip miner and have same as other capital modules that it isn't affected by michi's/hx-2/harvester implants can only fit one and can fit on rorqual and maybe orca
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Berikath
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Posted - 2010.12.30 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Berikath on 30/12/2010 16:47:36
IMHO, should take it in a somewhat different direction.
Give the mining duration module the interdiction generator treatment- it can now be set up to focus all it's energy onto a single target. Instead of giving a 24.525% cycle time bonus w/ maxed skills, it gives a 25.420420420420420% bonus and PURPLE LAZERS!!!
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2010.12.31 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Iosue
as far as i'm aware, i don't think there's anything stopping you from fittin a dread with mining lazers.
Or a mothership with mining drones.
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Chris Bailey
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Posted - 2010.12.31 09:18:00 -
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a mothership fitted properly for mining can mine more than a hulk
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Tanith YarnDemon
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Posted - 2010.12.31 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Bailey
a mothership fitted properly for mining can mine more than a hulk
Could. Can't.
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2010.12.31 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon
Originally by: Chris Bailey
a mothership fitted properly for mining can mine more than a hulk
Could. Can't.
Not that hard. Park it almost on the roids you want to mine. Most roid belts are simple curves. Start on one side and mine through to the other.
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Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2010.12.31 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Bailey
a mothership fitted properly for mining can mine more than a hulk
all skills at 5, with 25 mining drone IIs, it mines 1975 m3/min.
a hulk can best that easily, not to mention get mining bonuses beyond that also.
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2011.01.01 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hayaishi
Originally by: Chris Bailey
a mothership fitted properly for mining can mine more than a hulk
all skills at 5, with 25 mining drone IIs, it mines 1975 m3/min.
a hulk can best that easily, not to mention get mining bonuses beyond that also.
Add in drone mining rigs and harvester drones. You can get it up to 2500 m3/min, assuming you're parked on the roid you're mining and those slow harvesters don't have to go far.
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Shenxu
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.07 23:50:00 -
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The Veldnaught
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Uzrial
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Posted - 2011.01.09 03:02:00 -
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CCP has stated, that no ship can nor ever will out mine a hulk. The reason... Well does anyone remember what it was like before the hulk? Hell, before mining barges in general? Minerals are already too abundant on the market, a properly equipped carrier/suppercarrier fills the role of capital mining ship nicely. It would be cool to have a very special capital mining ship, but its just not feasible.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.09 05:33:00 -
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When they come out with a new class of ships that even larger than a titan, then maybee.
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Nominus Umbra
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Posted - 2011.01.10 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas
When they come out with a new class of ships that even larger than a titan, then maybee.
that's not a moon its a...
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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2011.01.10 17:35:00 -
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The new Sansha mothership must be the new capital mining ship since it can fly 26 harvester drones (it can fit an extra DCU). It's not much good for anything else except maybe ratting and exciting kill mails. I haven't done the math, but you're looking at roughly 2600 m3/ minute which is pretty good for what's probably going to be a really expensive ship, even by supercap standards. I'm sure Chribba needs one for his veldspar operations.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.11 00:36:00 -
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Macro mining is a lie..
The evil isk farmers don't use them. They don't need them; they have loads of cheap man power.
Require the proposed capitals to be in the belt - not sitting in a pos bubble.. exclude them from empire... make them with flimsy tanks...no problem.
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