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Chrisbox
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:00:00 -
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For one who wishes to blow stuff up constantly and have a -10 sec status, comes many annoyances. Isk and marketing would be my main one. I have my ships,i have my modules, but i feel making ISK in low sec is nearly impossible. Theres also no market, having an alt to constantly haul stuff in should not be needed, and neither should an alt who mines/farms missions all day while ur afk[which i dont have :( considering my main characters skill points arent that high ] . Is there truly a way to make bank while dominating the low sec belts? I wouldnt know and i believe CCP should make it easier for those who share the freedom of pirating and low sec activities. Im d
Got any suggestions? |
William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:07:00 -
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Hauler alt. -
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: William Cooly Hauler alt.
This is not a solution, it is a marketing gimick.
The Real Space Initiative - V7
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:12:00 -
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Courier contracts. ~
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:16:00 -
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Someone in your corp would be willing to haul the big things for you, for a price. And most items you need are available in lowsec, but the prices are pretty jacked.
For income, you can rat, or run level 5's with some corp mates. Some parts of lowsec have very profitable q20 agent hubs too, which can be run if you spam directional scan and have good intel channels.
These options do all have obvious and clear downsides. Which is the reason most pirates seem to have alts or timecard extensively.
One upside, though, is that you don't need to be in a pimped out ship to pirate. A lot of the really good pirate corps I've encountered seem to run cheap. But, this trait seems to vary corp to corp.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:19:00 -
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So...you want to make pirating easier? Sorry...but its hard for a reason. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of being a pirate then don't be one. Simple enough yes?
Sig.Learning skills vote. |
Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi So...you want to make pirating easier? Sorry...but its hard for a reason. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of being a pirate then don't be one. Simple enough yes?
Learn to read. He's asking for tips, not whining.
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Obsession Paranoia
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:28:00 -
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Miner alt.
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Arch Widowmaker
Cry Wolf.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:42:00 -
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You could start out with a market alt buying low, selling high. Helped me a ton in the beginning. For some more active income, you could run DED plexes in lowsec. It's a good practice to get good at probing and by doing so. It's never a bad thing to have an idea of what your targets do, it will help you exploit it.
Even if you diddn't catch that Ishtar or Tengu doing a 6/10, you could always work out a deal with him in order to leave him alone.. Speaking of which, ransoms are a fun way to keep yourself stocked, it's definatly not easy, however. It really helps being in a corp known to keep their word.
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Cartheron Crust
Spais Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:43:00 -
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Train up some exploration skills if you haven't already and run the sites around where you live. All supports at III with a rigged cov-ops using sisters probes and launcher and you can find every site in low-sec. Radars will net you between 10 and 35 mil each. Some of the unrated combats and rated plexes drop nice faction and deadspace stuff and can be run in the appropriate faction resisted AF's, HAC's and BC's for whatever faction it is. Of course you can just bookmark them and wait for people to run them. When they are you instawarp to them with no probes needed. Sometimes they drop better loot than the plex.
Of course you can run missions in low-sec (blitz, don't loot, LP is 7-11k depending on mission, quality of agent and sec level of system). PVP vaga fit swapping MWD for AB and point for invuln can do every level 4 I ever ran for Gallente faction (didn't try WC and didnt accept amarr faction missions) in very reasonable time. being a pirate yourself you shouldn't get caught doing them. Even if they do find you they would need an AB (in most missions still) fit Rapier and Arazu with them to hold you down. |
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Johnny Wander
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:49:00 -
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Exploration alt. ... And I Wander Away |
Olleybear
Minmatar I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:49:00 -
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To solve the no-market problem of low sec, heres a little known trick that I've seen some bolder -10's use.
They use a station with an undock that is directly in line with a low-sec gate. As you probably know, nothing can target you when you undock for about 30seconds. This gives the -10 enough time to select their low-sec gate and insta warp to it, evading both the faction police and carebears brave enough to try to scram them. You should be able to fit a ship in hi-sec and go to low-sec with it without too much hassle.
I've seen BS's undocked by -10's and insta warp to a low-sec gate. It's a very good use of game mechanics that makes me smile everytime I see it.
As for your second problem of trying to make isk, I'll let someone else answer that.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:56:00 -
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to the above post, you can just warp to an insta-undock, and warp off to any where, the police show up and web you* sending you into an insta-warp
right before they nerfed insurance I went on a smartbomb spree in jita, used the 4-4 station for everything. I lost one ship to the npcs because I was being stupid.
*I think they scram you first in amarr space, I haven't really tested it.
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jita alt123
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Posted - 2010.12.19 22:58:00 -
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Be an enterprising soul and start your own low sec trading hub. Have everything a pirate needs at slightly inflated price so they don't have to haul it out from hisec.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.12.19 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank Courier contracts.
I love the plebs that just mindlessly haul stuff for damn near free
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Roosterton
Eternal Frontier Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2010.12.19 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank Courier contracts.
I love the plebs that just mindlessly haul stuff for damn near free
I have an even better idea! Instead of getting the courier contractors to haul your stuff for you, get them to haul into lowsec for an insanely high collateral, then gank them, keep the collateral, and buy even more stuff than what they would have hauled for you!
Oh, wait... -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.12.19 23:35:00 -
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For resupply, get a hauler alt you lazy tard. It takes only a few hours on your main account using one of those other character slots. As for isk making, ideally you are turning a profit off of pvp. If you don't, you aren't really pirating and are just a low sec serial killer. Assuming you're the serial killer type, you can always run low sec missions, exploration and ratting to fatten your wallet. You need not worry about the local pirates interrupting you as you should at that point be one of them.
Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |
Stetin
Minmatar Genetisystems
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Posted - 2010.12.19 23:45:00 -
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Ok, let me get this straight - you constantly blow everyone up who passes through lowsec, and then complain that there's no market out there?
You're right! Something must be done about this grave injustice to pirates!
LOL! Thanks for making my day.
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Windjammer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.19 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi So...you want to make pirating easier? Sorry...but its hard for a reason. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of being a pirate then don't be one. Simple enough yes?
Learn to read. He's asking for tips, not whining.
Sentences 1, 3, 4 and 6 of the original post are whine flavored. Especially sentence 6. Four out of 7 sentences agree. This is primarily a whine with some request for tips thrown in.
-Windjammer
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.12.19 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor Cheney on 19/12/2010 23:54:06
Originally by: Windjammer
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi So...you want to make pirating easier? Sorry...but its hard for a reason. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of being a pirate then don't be one. Simple enough yes?
Learn to read. He's asking for tips, not whining.
Sentences 1, 3, 4 and 6 of the original post are whine flavored. Especially sentence 6. Four out of 7 sentences agree. This is primarily a whine with some request for tips thrown in.
-Windjammer
He's not asking for any game mechanics to be changed or going oh woe is me, rather, he states he is having complications and soliciting advice on how to deal with those complications. If one isn't having complications, then you don't need advice on how to overcome them, and so consequently mentioning complications does not in and of itself constitute a "whine thread."
Lordy.
Compare and contrast with any of your threads. Now those, those are whine threads.
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Windjammer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.20 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Cheney Edited by: Emperor Cheney on 19/12/2010 23:54:06
Originally by: Windjammer
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi So...you want to make pirating easier? Sorry...but its hard for a reason. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of being a pirate then don't be one. Simple enough yes?
Learn to read. He's asking for tips, not whining.
Sentences 1, 3, 4 and 6 of the original post are whine flavored. Especially sentence 6. Four out of 7 sentences agree. This is primarily a whine with some request for tips thrown in.
-Windjammer
He's not asking for any game mechanics to be changed or going oh woe is me, rather, he states he is having complications and soliciting advice on how to deal with those complications. If one isn't having complications, then you don't need advice on how to overcome them, and so consequently mentioning complications does not in and of itself constitute a "whine thread."
Lordy.
Compare and contrast with any of your threads. Now those, those are whine threads.
ö i believe CCP should make it easier for those who share the freedom of pirating and low sec activitiesö ThatÆs the bulk of sentence 7 of the OP. If it is not clear to you that he is whining to CCP to make a change in mechanics, you need to read it again until you understand.
öLearn to readö is good advice. ItÆs the advice you offered. You should really take it, although I can understand your aversion to taking medicine from your own bottle.
-Windjammer
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Sorted
Highwaymen Hell's Hide-Out
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Posted - 2010.12.20 00:59:00 -
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We are recruting, I'll show you how to make isk in highsec with your -10 main.
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb
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Posted - 2010.12.20 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Chrisbox Fi feel making ISK in low sec is nearly impossible
Not true. Lrn 2 plex. I've made billions solo and in gangs in simple setup ships in low sec escalation trails. All you need is a decent plexing ship, a probe, a cloak and some balls.
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