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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
165
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Posted - 2012.08.10 13:03:00 -
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Greetings Fellow Rock-Slayers,
Just some food for thought should we have another HAG, or just system security for you various P v. R(ock) operations (because the rocks are winning EVE, we must kill them before they develope language skills).
Some now viable options:
1. Put your boosting Orca in a safe spot - have the FC/WC/SC watch local and act as your system ops coordinator - like a stationary watch-dog while boosting. It's in a safe spot and so you can warp out if your paying attention to safey before the smartbombs or nados find you if your doing the job of DSCAN and watching local and doing the proper broadcasts to fleet.
2. Use your Mackinaws or Skiffs (as needed) and since your not required to dump into an orca and loose your boost as it warps away... because now you can fill up nicely and dock it yourself without much downtime.
Also this means you don't have to blob up and you can sit nicely 25ish km off the rocks well off the warp in point... making life much easier to be able to scoot.
I think we have a winner... any other new ideas people have on how to make gankers life just that much more problematic with the new changes?
To mine or not to mine... that is the quesiton. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1805
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Posted - 2012.08.11 04:54:00 -
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Fit a tank?
*Edit: Wow, just realized how insane that concept sounds |
feihcsiM
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.08.11 08:50:00 -
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ECM burst. Be careful. |
Brorr Liason
Scordite Excavating Xenaphobe Pendulum of Doom
2
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Posted - 2012.08.11 08:53:00 -
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So there's now tactics to mining?
Can I volunteer to be a mining FC? |
Cyprus Black
Perkone Caldari State
329
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Posted - 2012.08.11 14:47:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:Greetings Fellow Rock-Slayers,
Just some food for thought should we have another HAG, or just system security for you various P v. R(ock) operations (because the rocks are winning EVE, we must kill them before they develope language skills).
Some now viable options:
1. Put your boosting Orca in a safe spot - have the FC/WC/SC watch local and act as your system ops coordinator - like a stationary watch-dog while boosting. It's in a safe spot and so you can warp out if your paying attention to safey before the smartbombs or nados find you if your doing the job of DSCAN and watching local and doing the proper broadcasts to fleet.
2. Use your Mackinaws or Skiffs (as needed) and since your not required to dump into an orca and loose your boost as it warps away... because now you can fill up nicely and dock it yourself without much downtime.
Also this means you don't have to blob up and you can sit nicely 25ish km off the rocks well off the warp in point... making life much easier to be able to scoot.
I think we have a winner... any other new ideas people have on how to make gankers life just that much more problematic with the new changes?
As a highsec ganker pilot, I have to say that these are some of the worst suggestions I've heard. Seriously. The whole point of an Orca is two fold. To give mining bonuses and to act as an ore dump so that the miners don't have to leave the belt.
With your "ideas", the ore dump is completely thrown out. CCP is also planning on changing fleet boosting bonuses to only be applicable while on grid. That means you can't hide in a safespot and give bonuses, so that "idea" is crap too.
Looks like you've got a loser.
Here's an idea: Fit for Tank! What a novel concept for highsec miners. Hijinks of a highsec pirate http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
ashley Eoner
38
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Posted - 2012.08.11 21:58:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:Greetings Fellow Rock-Slayers,
Just some food for thought should we have another HAG, or just system security for you various P v. R(ock) operations (because the rocks are winning EVE, we must kill them before they develope language skills).
Some now viable options:
1. Put your boosting Orca in a safe spot - have the FC/WC/SC watch local and act as your system ops coordinator - like a stationary watch-dog while boosting. It's in a safe spot and so you can warp out if your paying attention to safey before the smartbombs or nados find you if your doing the job of DSCAN and watching local and doing the proper broadcasts to fleet.
2. Use your Mackinaws or Skiffs (as needed) and since your not required to dump into an orca and loose your boost as it warps away... because now you can fill up nicely and dock it yourself without much downtime.
Also this means you don't have to blob up and you can sit nicely 25ish km off the rocks well off the warp in point... making life much easier to be able to scoot.
I think we have a winner... any other new ideas people have on how to make gankers life just that much more problematic with the new changes?
+1 for the Londo reference :P
Personally I just used macks with 2x MLU fit tanks and laugh as catalysts fail at breaking my 30k tank.. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
335
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Posted - 2012.08.12 01:59:00 -
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Or you could just fit a tank. There is a fine and proper artistry to wielding verbal scalpels, such that the crap-poster you've slashed doesn't even know they've been cut. But verbal bludgeons -- Those are just fun. |
Keyanu
the united Negative Ten.
12
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Posted - 2012.08.12 07:50:00 -
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Fit a tank |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
201
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Posted - 2012.08.12 07:53:00 -
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By fit a tank, they mean you need at least b-type invulns on your mackinaw. I will be happy to test the tank for you after you aquire these modules |
Keyanu
the united Negative Ten.
12
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Posted - 2012.08.12 08:07:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:By fit a tank, they mean you need at least b-type invulns on your mackinaw. I will be happy to test the tank for you after you aquire these modules
lol no, just fit it properly. Put some thought into it. |
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Illest Insurrectionist
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.08.12 11:28:00 -
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Orca in a safe spot?
Do people really think there are roaming orca death squads? |
seany1212
Relentless Destruction
201
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Posted - 2012.08.12 12:04:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote: It's in a safe spot and so you can warp out if your paying attention to safey before the smartbombs
This is the point at which I established that the OP had no clue what he was talking about and probably hasn't been playing eve in a while |
Illest Insurrectionist
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.08.12 12:47:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:By fit a tank, they mean you need at least b-type invulns on your mackinaw. I will be happy to test the tank for you after you aquire these modules
Don't forget cap rechargers.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14308989 |
Mallak Azaria
553
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Posted - 2012.08.12 14:04:00 -
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Seriously, just fit a tank. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1653
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Posted - 2012.08.13 13:47:00 -
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Tank a fit. |
Ristlin Wakefield
Wakefield-Dukovsky Conglomerate Eternal Pretorian Alliance
51
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Posted - 2012.08.13 14:39:00 -
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Illest Insurrectionist wrote:Orca in a safe spot?
Do people really think there are roaming orca death squads?
LOL
My Orca supports me right in the thick of battle while clearing anons, pretty nifty with good drone skills I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |
Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate Tus Network
158
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Posted - 2012.08.13 14:54:00 -
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Dont mine. I used to have a clever sig but I lost it. |
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
0
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Posted - 2012.08.15 16:14:00 -
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Fit a tank? You guys are such jokers. Next thing you'll do is suggest people mine while at their keyboards.
/sarcasm |
Removal Tool
Unleet Industries LLC Lunar Industries Partnership
18
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Posted - 2012.08.16 15:07:00 -
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I can fit 4 civilian shield boosters to my mackinaws, is that enough tank? |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
281
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Posted - 2012.08.16 15:57:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:blah blah stupid stuff snipped
Three god damn words, mate: Fit. A. Tank.
That's it.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.17 00:47:00 -
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Removal Tool wrote:I can fit 4 civilian shield boosters to my mackinaws, is that enough tank?
Put some armor plates on too |
Garven Dreis
Kicking Smurfs The Marmite Collective
67
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Posted - 2012.08.17 04:03:00 -
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Illest Insurrectionist wrote:Orca in a safe spot?
Do people really think there are roaming orca death squads?
Fund it. In Manticore we Trust |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
5
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:33:00 -
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How does one tank the tech 1 barges? Or is their tank being to worthless a target? |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2671
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Posted - 2012.08.20 14:21:00 -
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Thread closed because of uninformative. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
28
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:29:00 -
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Ristlin Wakefield wrote:Illest Insurrectionist wrote:Orca in a safe spot?
Do people really think there are roaming orca death squads? LOL My Orca supports me right in the thick of battle while clearing anons, pretty nifty with good drone skills
where are you doing anoms mate? |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
28
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Posted - 2012.08.21 06:32:00 -
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and more on topic, cos I don't wanna give too much away (I kinda like suicide gankers they bring much tears), Orca has a ship maintenance bay. |
Anvil44
Independent Traders and Builders MPA
110
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Posted - 2012.08.21 14:35:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:How does one tank the tech 1 barges? Or is their tank being to worthless a target? Procurer - buff the shield resists. Rig for shield and Em resistance. Ready with decent tank. (Around 50k EHP on my med-well skilled high sec mining alt) Retriever - DCU in low, Adaptive Invul Field in mid, Rig for shield and EM resistance. Ready with decent tank.(around 17k EHP on my med-well skilled high sec mining alt) Covetor - Use in a fleet with remote shield/armor support (shield has more buffer so might be the way to go) and expect to possibly lose it anyhow. Put an invul Field in the mid, rig for shield and EM resistance. Might be enough with support. Solo = high expectation of ganking.(about 10k EHP on my med-well skilled high sec mining alt)
Putting a bit of tank on these ships is not hard, you don't lose much in total mining ability and makes it much tougher for a solo ganker. I don't know why any miner would whine about these ships now, they are all completely useful in their little niches. My current high sec mining alt is using a Retriever and might not even bother with the Mack when he gets the skills for the ship. A Retriever works well enough itself and isn't so expensive. You can make back the isk you spend on it fairly quickly, while still having a decent tank.
Edit: this should probably be in ships and modules section (I think that is what it is called?) I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it. |
Phugoid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2012.08.22 15:48:00 -
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"Here's an idea: Fit for Tank! What a novel concept for highsec miners. I can get my new Skiff up to 88k EHP. Probably higher if I put forth real effort."
Cyprus... I got my Skiff to 50+, can you show me how to get to 88 pls? Thanks Flugzeugf++hrer |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:02:00 -
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Cyprus Black wrote:Aurelius Valentius wrote:Greetings Fellow Rock-Slayers,
Just some food for thought should we have another HAG, or just system security for you various P v. R(ock) operations (because the rocks are winning EVE, we must kill them before they develope language skills).
Some now viable options:
1. Put your boosting Orca in a safe spot - have the FC/WC/SC watch local and act as your system ops coordinator - like a stationary watch-dog while boosting. It's in a safe spot and so you can warp out if your paying attention to safey before the smartbombs or nados find you if your doing the job of DSCAN and watching local and doing the proper broadcasts to fleet.
2. Use your Mackinaws or Skiffs (as needed) and since your not required to dump into an orca and loose your boost as it warps away... because now you can fill up nicely and dock it yourself without much downtime.
Also this means you don't have to blob up and you can sit nicely 25ish km off the rocks well off the warp in point... making life much easier to be able to scoot.
I think we have a winner... any other new ideas people have on how to make gankers life just that much more problematic with the new changes?
As a highsec ganker pilot, I have to say that these are some of the worst suggestions I've heard. Seriously. The whole point of an Orca is two fold. To give mining bonuses and to act as an ore dump so that the miners don't have to leave the belt. With your "ideas", the ore dump is completely thrown out. CCP is also planning on changing fleet boosting bonuses to only be applicable while on grid. That means you can't hide in a safespot and give bonuses, so that "idea" is crap too. Looks like you've got a loser. Here's an idea: Fit for Tank! What a novel concept for highsec miners. I can get my new Skiff up to 88k EHP. Probably higher if I put forth real effort. Rocking slightly over 100k on my skiffs and 250k on my orca. Come get me faggots. |
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
49
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Posted - 2012.08.23 22:26:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Removal Tool wrote:I can fit 4 civilian shield boosters to my mackinaws, is that enough tank? Put some armor plates on too
indeed. Fresh from the belt:
[Hulk, Arnon, Essence (0.6)] 50mm Reinforced Titanium Plates I
Prototype Freight Sensors Rudimentary Ship Scanner I ML-3 Amphilotite Mining Probe Ionic Field Accelerator I
Strip Miner I Strip Miner I Strip Miner I
[empty rig slot]
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