I'm not preaching how to PVP, I'm wondering why the **** someone like you gives a damn about a direction that doesn't affect you.

OP

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14248808

was this your 2nd account?

What direction are you speaking about, specifically? I'm not trying to be dense. I just don't understand what you're referring to exactly.

OMG the drama is killing me. You old players really have a feel for it. +1 for turning eve into stoneage player reality sitcom.
CCP is ruthless for not listening to you. Maybe they still got it after all?!

Biomass your char. Come back as a newb. Do Not join a corp. And guess what? You will be dead in under 2 seconds again...

Hope this helped,

<3

If I am understanding your plight correctly, you're asking for CCP to reverse their "path" that is leading them to a riskless EVE Online.

But these changes seem to exclusively effect high sec and one effecting low sec (Of which I'd argue is actually to redistribute PvP rather than reduce it.)

Meanwhile, in null sec, non-consentual PVP happens all the time. Or at least in my experience. So what's the problem?

Okay, thank you for clarifying, and I will indeed try to answer your question as best I can. But first, I need to explain the foundation of my thinking.

Currently, due to the basic architecture of the game (and I'm speaking to the literal architecture- how the systems are generated, the database structures on the servers etc.) gates are the chokepoints that force players together, and systems operate in a cellular structure that is mostly unavoidable unless you have a jump capable ship. Regardless, you still have to have a cyno. Anywhere you can cyno in/out, there is local. In w-space, cynos don't work. But, in w-space you don't have local broadcasting your presence either.

CCP has made it impossible to sneak around. Small groups can't avoid larger, everyone knows your coming, etc. etc. etc.

Every change CCP does, it makes this issue worse. They have reduced the window of contact by adding warp to zero, by installing jump bridges, by adding jump freighters, by basically allowing defenders to escape as easily as possible. More HP, less peak DPS, nerfing sensor boosters so that they lock slower. On and on and on. Less and less lethal.

There are a tremendous amount of changes in this game that have been done for the convenience of the player. They're simply making the environment 'easier', just for the sake of making the game 'easier'. Easier is not better. Having the majority of the students pass the test doesn't mean it's a good test. It means that the test is too easy. If everyone can pass it, then what is the point of competing?

People ask for 'easy' because they're lazy. They want everything handed to them. They think that it's only hard for them. They don't understand that it's hard for everyone and if they work at it they'll have an advantage.

So, most everyone that is reading my posts is focusing on the detail- what is right in front of them. But I'm talking about the big picture. The biggest picture there is- the core game design and its fundamental structure. It used to be hard, it used to be difficult. It used to be good. And now it's not.

I'm sorry but in reality why would anyone give a **** what your reasons for quitting are? Your reasoning is really only relevant to your perspective of what the game should be, and to assume that anyone else gives a rats arse about your feelings or perceptions is presumptive and arrogant. The changes have upset your game play, your hurt and upset, fine, you have said your piece, now pack up and go.

I kinda agree with the OP. My favourite times in EVE was when it was a risky confusing mess.

Strange but true.

Now I try on clothes for a living in my CQ.

6 pages of poor me. Man up or GTFO! Where else are you going to find a game even close to this?
Month tops and he will be back for his fix.

Aaannnd.... NPC corp.


WTF is wrong with you people (NPC Corp players)?

Where else are you going to find a game even close to this?

Thank you for this post. No really, thank you. I legitimately love what you wrote here.

Sometimes it feels like people just want to make it hard on other players for its own sake. But you gave me an adequate description as to WHY this is harming the game.

And reading this, I actually agree with you. Null and low sec needs to be seriously looked at. Because, although I do love null sec, it leaves a lot to be desired and it could be so much more.

CCP, this needs to be seriously looked at. I like high sec being carebear land. Sometimes I want to undock without the omnipotent feeling that everyone is out to get me. But at the same time, I also want nullsec to be vibrant, dangerous and rewarding. With a lot of chaos. And order within chaos. All people trying to make much more money playing smart than they would in high sec. And giving pirates and opportunity to profit from the risks they're taking.

Eh, don't bother pointing out the NPC-corpers. With some very rare exceptions, all of the "htfu ganker" people are going to post on alts. Fear is a defining characteristic of these people, and handily coincides with the stance they take toward the game.

Yeah, but CCP is no longer properly dismissing them as inconsequential, as they always should.

That is a problem.

Why does CCP think that they are not a problem?

While forum asshats are free to stereotype people, CCP has bills to pay.

I know that feel, bro. We'll keep doing the work and hopefully some day the conditions will be right for the good people to come back.

Let us know if you find something better.

CCP: Keep on the good work, for every bitter no-lifer leaving the game due to the game becoming more of a game and less of a job, youll get 2 or 3 or more new subs instead.

Lol. No one is stereotyping.

When something is true of a group, it's called a trait. Not a stereotype.

Yourself for example: you made a mistake, you got banned with your main, now you're using an NPC corp char to dodge the ban. You're evading accountability. It's a trait.

And I don't point it out because I have a problem with it. I point it out because I think it's funny.

NPC corp generally (not always) = douchebag

What can CCP do, when there's a generational shift toward spineless? CCP also play a PvP game, they on one side with their 20k concurrent online players (assuming their own published 2.5 alts per account / some stay logged off ofc) vs the idiot friendly, millions of subs giants.

That's also why it's important for CCP to try hold the old players, they preserve the "ancient mood" of the game, once they are gone then it's WoW-heads and CCP can't do anything but restrict their playerbase more and more. Or give in and make EvE just another piece of easy poo and then lose all.
CCP certainly are in for some hard choices come the next years.

Who will stay for 51 days each.

Im a newbie who loves carebearing, hates nerdy bitter vets and has stayed over 5,5 months already.

Now GTFO with your generalisations and go crawl back up your moms a** telling her how uberleet internet hero you are in your PvP niche in EVE, she will surely be proud of you as long as you dont mentally cross the 12 years old line, where you will start being weird. SHOO!