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Hesperius
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: Hesperius on 29/10/2010 17:50:18
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Persona n0ngrata it's kinda a stretch comparing it to a myrmidon as you would first have to flip it upside down then turn it so its facing backwards and slap on a couple extra engines.
Not really, no, considering how blindingly obvious it is.
Um... Try reading Persona's comment again without your back up so far. I'm pretty sure he knows the situation, and he is doing fine not taking it hard like the LA Battlecruiser dude (poor guy). It was a good design, maybe not the best in the contest, probably the best presentation in the contest, and the rest is DA fortifying their reputation for years to come.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius Um... Try reading Persona's comment again
Ok
Persona: wow, if you have no spatial sense, you might not see the resemblance. Me: àbut if you do, it's obvious. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Opertone
Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:14:00 -
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Best minmatar ship by design
this is so must have in game
please CCP
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Geanos
Phoenix Tribe
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Geanos Can't wait to fly the Tornado! Smart design, building over an ingame shape and since the resemblance with Myrmidon stops there, thumbs up.
Can we stop with the "it's a Myrmidon" already? It's not. Both designs are successful and similar because the proportions and angles are complementary and pleasing to the eye. It's not a copy. It's not even close.
Quite frankly, I'm sure Pattern started from scratch.
Heh, that's what I wanted to say, but looks like I'm failing at english more than I'm failing at EVE. Zee ideea was that if you're using a shape (let's say a triangle), you're not copying another guy that used a triangle in his work.
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MsEarth
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: MsEarth on 29/10/2010 18:21:39 Outrageous!
That minmatar ship sucks!
WE WANT THE GALLENTE ONE IN GAME, THAT SHIP IS TOTAL SEX.
SECOND PLACE SHIP FOR GAME! Not that ****ing WTC ship.
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Opertone
Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: N'tek alar For those of you saying the Tornado is a Myrmidon copy.... Really?
They're both vertical, That's about it, It's no more a copy of a Myrm than the Myrm is a copy of the Naglfar.
is a copy of a Raven, turned sideways... or even a scorpion, blended with myrmidon vertical carcass and sail + afterburner added.
to me it is very unoriginal.
replace tempest with this http://enmisery-comodidad.deviantart.com/art/FREEBORN-179769478
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Tarikla
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:43:00 -
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CCP ... Please , i'm begging you ...
Put Also the second Ship in the Game ... This Gallente Ship just Rocks !
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Suzie Slurp
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Posted - 2010.10.29 20:03:00 -
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i bet the winner is ****ing himself after blatantly just copying the myrmidon and winning...
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Captain Tupolev
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Posted - 2010.10.29 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ira Astrum Edited by: Ira Astrum on 28/10/2010 21:04:35 Clicky!
Totally the right choice in the end! Although it says nothing about the ship appearing ingame in the prize list...CCP? Something to tell us?
Uhh no, the winner is just a clever rendering of three ships that are already in game which was totally against the rules. It was a wrong choice and the whole thing seems to have been rigged. |
Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.29 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Orange Lagomorph on 29/10/2010 20:31:51 Even though DA's judges suck a ****ing ****, at least CCP picked an excellent ship for first place and implementation in the game. Hell, I KNEW they would pick the Tornado (and said so earlier in this thread), because it's the only finalist that truly fits into EVE.
It's certainly not my favorite design of all the entries, but I still think it's a good one. And it's not actually a clone of any existing ship, despite what tardhats seem to believe. "Copying the Myrmidon" and "pasting together three different renderings" won't produce well-made line art and an authentic digital painting, both with fine details evident.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.10.29 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Tupolev
Originally by: Ira Astrum Edited by: Ira Astrum on 28/10/2010 21:04:35 Clicky!
Totally the right choice in the end! Although it says nothing about the ship appearing ingame in the prize list...CCP? Something to tell us?
Uhh no, the winner is just a clever rendering of three ships that are already in game which was totally against the rules. It was a wrong choice and the whole thing seems to have been rigged.
Translation: The design I liked didn't win, I don't like Minmatar, and I don't like vertical, so I'm making crap up.
It's supposed to have strong Minmatar design elements, and Minmatar like vertical elements in many of their designs. More so than the Gallante actually. If either of the two "don't fit" the their racial theme and need to go, it would be the Myrm. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
Allataria
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Posted - 2010.10.29 22:10:00 -
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Wait so why does the picture include names and fittings for Gallente Caldari and Amarr as well? Are those going to be the names of the other races version with the same model or will he get to design a new model for the other 3 races to balance the adding of the Tornado into the game? I hope they are all 4 different hulls and designs and not just a different color on the Tornado.
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My Main
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Posted - 2010.10.29 22:15:00 -
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well im happy the tornado & the tsunami look freakinn brilliant. i dont care about all the other races you can train what you want. minimatarrr ate awsome. dont reply to me or i will wardec you!!!111!!!
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Tyber Zaan
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Posted - 2010.10.29 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: MsEarth Edited by: MsEarth on 29/10/2010 18:21:39 Outrageous!
That minmatar ship sucks!
WE WANT THE GALLENTE ONE IN GAME, THAT SHIP IS TOTAL SEX.
SECOND PLACE SHIP FOR GAME! Not that ****ing WTC ship.
Because you=everyone?
I like the tornado. STFU.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Captain Tupolev
Originally by: Ira Astrum Edited by: Ira Astrum on 28/10/2010 21:04:35 Clicky!
Totally the right choice in the end! Although it says nothing about the ship appearing ingame in the prize list...CCP? Something to tell us?
Uhh no, the winner is just a clever rendering of three ships that are already in game which was totally against the rules. It was a wrong choice and the whole thing seems to have been rigged.
Translation: The design I liked didn't win, I don't like Minmatar, and I don't like vertical, so I'm making crap up.
It's supposed to have strong Minmatar design elements, and Minmatar like vertical elements in many of their designs. More so than the Gallante actually. If either of the two "don't fit" the their racial theme and need to go, it would be the Myrm.
!^!^!
Petition to make the myrm into space whale II
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Grytok
KL0NKRIEGER
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Posted - 2010.10.30 02:22:00 -
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Does anyone remember Fanfest 2009 where the players told the CCP-artist what kind of ship to draw?
Heimdallur from "Design democracy panel" at fanfest 2009.
It wasn't really a surprise actually that CCP chose a vertical MinMatar battleship-design as a winner, as the people a year back wanted something like this aswell.
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Tarikan
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Posted - 2010.10.30 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Tarikan on 30/10/2010 02:28:57 Not to mention, that if it was the Gallente ship that won, everyone would probably whine that the design is too close to looking like a Megathron, so the argument that the Tornado looks like a Mrymidon might be true, but you can argue that almost every ship in the contest was based off an existing ship. because it's vertical you say it's a Mrymidon copy, yea keep going, cause if it became horizontal you'd scream that it copies the Catalyst. so really you're just whining and complaining.
the Tornado looks great, and once i see it on the market i'll fancy myself buying one
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Pod Salesman
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Posted - 2010.10.30 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Pod Salesman on 30/10/2010 05:31:26 well, yeah. because it does look like both of those :P *much* less so the catalyst though
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.10.30 05:37:00 -
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So, help me out here: CCP is FOR SURE going to put the winning design in the game? Can I get official (CCP) confirmation on this? -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
Komen
Gallente Flying Target LLC
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Posted - 2010.10.30 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus So, help me out here: CCP is FOR SURE going to put the winning design in the game? Can I get official (CCP) confirmation on this?
As I understand it: The whole point of the contest was to have the winning design become a flyable Eve starship. At this point, it looks like it will go ahead. The only reason for it not to happen would be legal action - for example, copyright infringement, ie the winner actually plagiarized someone else's work. (I am NOT saying that he did. This is a hypothetical. Stop reaching for the quote button to flame me.) CCP might also decide for some reason not to include the ship after all, but since they went ahead and picked it as the winner I cannot imagine any reason but lulz that they would then say 'welp, guess not'.
In the end CCP has picked what they consider to be the best of the lot, and I hope like hell that they will never, ever, EVER associate themselves in any way with DeviantArt again. LA Battlecruiser, for ****'s sake.
Congrats to the winner.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.10.30 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Hesperius Um... Try reading Persona's comment again
Ok
Persona: wow, if you have no spatial sense, you might not see the resemblance. Me: àbut if you do, it's obvious.
What a wonderful rage, this whole thing has set you on.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
Ohanka
Caldari The Lone Patrol Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.10.30 09:19:00 -
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Bah, i wish the Caldari Battleship in second place won, instead we get another junk ship that will fall apart 5 seconds out of the hanger, like all Minmatar ships. JK the Tornado is a nice ship, i don't care if the Devs say the Naru Kami is a gallente ship it obviously isn't because it doesn't look like it was molded out of playdo (or however you spell that) by a 6 year old
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.30 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's What a wonderful rage, this whole thing has set you on.
It has less to do with rage and more to do with utter incredulity that people can be that blindà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Bluefix
Gnu Terror Corps
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Posted - 2010.10.30 10:41:00 -
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Congrats to the winner. Cant say I'm surprised. After all the problems most people pointed at that design and it was the choice that would appease most Eve players.
That said I personally think there were far more interesting ships in the competition, so I hope next time will result in a more original choice.
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Shin Dari
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Posted - 2010.10.30 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bluefix That said I personally think there were far more interesting ships in the competition, so I hope next time will result in a more original choice.
I don't think that there will be a next time.
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FuzzyLogik360
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.30 11:48:00 -
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Congratulations to the winner, but I have to say I am a little "underwhelmed" by the design. This is no slur on the winner, who actually played this competition extremely intelligently with a well balanced, non-offenseive entry - and met all the judging criteria.
But really, this idea that the ship "must" fit into the existing universe. CCP, that's down right lazy. You could have spun any story you wished to make any of the designs fit the game back-story. Instead you've been conservative in your choice.
Second place entry gets my personal vote, it could have been great. Rather than belonging to any particular faction - it might have been a "coporate/commercial" design (i.e. independent and fresh - a new branching from the game universe).
Can I also make another point, why is it that all recently added ships (tournament prizes, this comp, etc.) are NOT Caldari. There is no way I'll be wasting SP training time to fly this (these). Can we have a new Caldari ship next time please!
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Saul Dhampir
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.10.31 13:11:00 -
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Is there anywhere where the 15 semi finalists are shown?
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.10.31 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Saul Dhampir Is there anywhere where the 15 semi finalists are shown?
I had to scroll to the bottom of this page to get this link, many Bothans died for some reason.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1402431
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Saul Dhampir
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.10.31 13:26:00 -
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A few other thoughts...
Everyone knows that a good number of entries were clearly from people who had never played EvE. The sheer number of ships that did not fit into the established fractions was amazing. All sorts of insectoid rubbish, that whilst may have looked good, or been professionally produced, simple would not fit into EvE in any way.
Additionally, yes it was DA people who chose the winners. But the winners of what? The DA contest. Who is to say that CCP designers are not now going back over all the entries with a fine toothed comb and pulling out quality designs that do fit into EvE and that they could work with? The pirate fractions need Destroyers and Bruisers, and things like the Balgorn need a re-model.
It might be wishful thinking, but perhaps CCP may return to some of the entrants in the coming weeks to ask if there concepts can be taken nd built upon.
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Ehgrimm
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Posted - 2010.10.31 17:26:00 -
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I've been crossing my fingers for either the winner or the awesome minnie frig design.
Congratulations dreamwalker.
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