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Efraya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.26 11:59:00 -
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Sniping a Joe Phoenix thread = Win EVE? Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |

Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.10.26 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Your Client Caldari is PVE, Everything else is PVP.
Thats the way it is, was, and forever should be. Good Day.
The drake and the raven are the only real pve ships of the PVE RACE. And you want to break one of these?
My vulture and golems would disagree. Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
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Damien McCandless
Caldari Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.10.26 12:50:00 -
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Caldari? Bad?
Manticore is the only ship I have ever needed.
Isn't that right Joe?

Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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Tyber Zaan
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Posted - 2010.10.26 13:15:00 -
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Joe has a tendancy to jump on the bandwagon dosen't he?
Again, i just think this is another message from CCP taken way out of context.
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Kiyirari
All Star Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.10.26 13:21:00 -
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Many years ago before ya was in the game Joe phoenix...
Caldari where the race to play due to missiles being totally OP, i mean like no tracking penalty, insta popping torps on frigs and NO skills apart from missile size...
They where the choice RACE to play, i believe they had good starting attributes also which lead to aprox 70% popluation of caldari toons in EVE intill the attributes where balance between all races.
Ravens dominated the pvp world or atleast very favourable with the pirate kind in low sec due to torps, and even when the missiles where brought inline with guns and new skills the whine went on for months... peeps could not adapt OMG i might need skill to fly this ship Now ??? i'm no longer uber wtfpwn mobile.... **** happens.... evolve or die
Either that learn to fight outside of blob... er whats that ???
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.10.26 13:37:00 -
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not even worth responding, the title should really be, am i rubbish or something ?
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Blaad Booyashaka
4 Inches Of PAIN
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Posted - 2010.10.26 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix Its not like the caldari can contest the other races [...] t3 crusers
hahaha lol hahaha
also: drake is OP |

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries R-I-P
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Posted - 2010.10.26 17:25:00 -
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+1
I was shocked to hear that there was even a notion of nerfing the drake in any way. It is the single ship that actually saves Caldari from being totally useless, and that is only for its PvE qualities.
Of the BC's, the drake has the largest tank, and the least DPS's; is that not a fair enough trade?
I've seen several treads being opened regarding nerfing the drake. That is plain crazy, they might use range, and have a nice tanks, but that is a tactical variation that is part of being caldari. Maybe try using some tactical variation of your own to counter it?
These treads honestly look to me to be a nerf whine about wanting everyone to only play at your game and on your terms.
If you nerf the drake, then nerf the minmatar speed tanks, the amarr DPS tanks and the gallente armor tanks.
Let the whining commence....
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.26 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Brian Ballsack not even worth responding, the title should really be, am i rubbish or something ?
the title? the poster name enough should be a good turnoff by itself.
also, obligatory postin' on a Joe Phoenix thread. ---

Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |

Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.26 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Brian Ballsack not even worth responding, the title should really be, am i rubbish or something ?
the title? the poster name enough should be a good turnoff by itself.
also, obligatory postin' on a Joe Phoenix thread.
Wow copying a troll comment must make you cool. 
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Blnukem 192
Amarr Creed.
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Posted - 2010.10.26 19:42:00 -
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About time the drake got a nerf. 
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is really not worthy of a thread.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.26 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Brian Ballsack not even worth responding, the title should really be, am i rubbish or something ?
the title? the poster name enough should be a good turnoff by itself.
also, obligatory postin' on a Joe Phoenix thread.
Wow copying a troll comment must make you cool. 
indeed, and you don't sound butthurt at all.
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Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |

Kiritsubo
Ritual Suicide
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Posted - 2010.10.26 20:25:00 -
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Is justice for your people's history of unprovoked aggression toward Gallente. Enjoy flying Minmatar.
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Deen Wispa
Gallente GHF Corperation
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Posted - 2010.10.26 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ohanka oh boo hoo drake gets a nerf, im a long time Drake Captain, and the Drake really is boring now, Drake fleets are boring, all anyone ever uses is drake fleets, i miss battleship fleets
+1 -----------------
GHF- Looking for fun players in industry and PVP |

Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.26 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Unless you're in a remote rep battleship gang, the Raven is the best gank battleship in the game.
Yeah, can't wait to see those raven fleets coming up next amirite?
Originally by: Merin Ryskin The Tengu is by far the best T3 cruiser in the game.
For pvp? No.
Originally by: Merin Ryskin My AML II Caracal would like to say hi to your Dramiels/etc. In fact, given that all other T1 cruisers are worthless trash compared to the nanocane, Caldari are in pretty good shape here.
Caracal has a role, but it's a real narrow role. It has no business engaging another cruise as a rupture or thorax (yes, a thorax) could. Amarr has **** for cruisers too though.
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Who cares? If it's not a Rifter, it doesn't matter, and frigates are useless for anything other than suicide tackle anyway. Throw your warp disruptor + MWD on a Condor and stop whining.
People who want to fly something that isnt a rifter?
Originally by: Merin Ryskin All destroyers suck, so whining that the Caldari destroyer sucks isn't really saying very much.
Thrasher would like a word with you.
TL;DR: Caldari suck, you're a minmatar pilot.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Leksi Bar'zuk
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Unless you're in a remote rep battleship gang, the Raven is the best gank battleship in the game.
Yeah, can't wait to see those raven fleets coming up next amirite?
Originally by: Merin Ryskin The Tengu is by far the best T3 cruiser in the game.
For pvp? No.
Originally by: Merin Ryskin My AML II Caracal would like to say hi to your Dramiels/etc. In fact, given that all other T1 cruisers are worthless trash compared to the nanocane, Caldari are in pretty good shape here.
Caracal has a role, but it's a real narrow role. It has no business engaging another cruise as a rupture or thorax (yes, a thorax) could. Amarr has **** for cruisers too though.
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Who cares? If it's not a Rifter, it doesn't matter, and frigates are useless for anything other than suicide tackle anyway. Throw your warp disruptor + MWD on a Condor and stop whining.
People who want to fly something that isnt a rifter?
Originally by: Merin Ryskin All destroyers suck, so whining that the Caldari destroyer sucks isn't really saying very much.
Thrasher would like a word with you.
TL;DR: Caldari suck, you're a minmatar pilot.
Merin is directly related to a cabbage, i wouldn't worry about it.
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Celeritas 5k
McKendrick Merchantile Cooperative
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:32:00 -
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Can someone stop flaming for a second and give us poor clueless bastards who missed it a link? When did ccp threaten to nerf the drake? - NEVER PVP SOBER. |

Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Celeritas 5k Can someone stop flaming for a second and give us poor clueless bastards who missed it a link? When did ccp threaten to nerf the drake?
They want missiles/drake blobs removing from PVP as it creates too much lag on their supa-dupa ZX Spectrum server.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Celeritas 5k Can someone stop flaming for a second and give us poor clueless bastards who missed it a link? When did ccp threaten to nerf the drake?
Thread hints that they are thinking of a Nerf
Originally by: Karia Sur
They want missiles/drake blobs removing from PVP as it creates too much lag on their supa-dupa ZX Spectrum server.
Fail for you, read then panic.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Originally by: Kaliba Mort
I'm hoping you are not alluding to nerfing the drake because missiles cause load.
Nope, not at all, the balancing part as stated above is considered separate discussion which mostly revolves around class comparison and explaining popularity. We would definitely not nerf it because missiles caused load. That is a side effect on its own.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis As stated in earlier responses which I see some of you skipped(!), we would never nerf the drake because it used missiles and missiles cause additional load, that would be nonsensical indeed as many note.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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oldmanst4r
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Celeritas 5k Can someone stop flaming for a second and give us poor clueless bastards who missed it a link? When did ccp threaten to nerf the drake?
Please see the dev quotes in this thread, Drake Nerfing Thread
Note: They never actually say they are going to nerf the drake. However, they make several comments suggesting how it may be overpowered, are discussing its possible over-poweredness in house, and, oh yeah, missiles make the hamsters cry.
Tl;dr drakes are getting nerfed because missiles cause lag and CCP hate caldari.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
*snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 26/10/2010 21:47:13
Originally by: oldmanst4r Tl;dr drakes are getting nerfed because missiles cause lag and CCP hate caldari.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Originally by: Kaliba Mort
I'm hoping you are not alluding to nerfing the drake because missiles cause load.
Nope, not at all, the balancing part as stated above is considered separate discussion which mostly revolves around class comparison and explaining popularity. We would definitely not nerf it because missiles caused load. That is a side effect on its own.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis As stated in earlier responses which I see some of you skipped(!), we would never nerf the drake because it used missiles and missiles cause additional load, that would be nonsensical indeed as many note.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Ahhhhnold
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:53:00 -
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Time to dump your stocks of scourge fury missiles, its all those drake mission runners that made them worthwhile to invent, what with the turnover in jita and all...
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oldmanst4r
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 26/10/2010 21:47:13
Originally by: oldmanst4r Tl;dr drakes are getting nerfed because missiles cause lag and CCP hate caldari.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Originally by: Kaliba Mort
I'm hoping you are not alluding to nerfing the drake because missiles cause load.
Oh, no, we would definitely never tell the playerbase that is why we are nerfing it. The balancing discussion is simply a smokescreen so we can get rid of missile lag while blaming it on the popularity of the drake. We would definitely not tell you we nerfed it because missiles caused load. That is a side effect on its own.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis As stated in earlier responses which I see some of you skipped(!), we would never say we nerfed the drake because it used missiles and missiles cause additional load, that would be nonsensical indeed as many note.
I fixed the quotes for you so people wouldn't be deceived by not reading between the lines and not panic.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
*snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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dankness420
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:01:00 -
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my falcon alt says caldari is fine
anyone who thinks caldari is a joke for pvp is a mouthbreathing highsec dweller
<3 my falcon so much its the best ship ever
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: dankness420 my falcon alt says caldari is fine
anyone who thinks caldari is a joke for pvp is a mouthbreathing highsec dweller
<3 my falcon so much its the best ship ever
Herp derp.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: oldmanst4r /Tinfoil hat, CCP is decieving me I read between the lines of my imagination then tell other people to panic.
fixed the fix
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Neddy Fox
Gallente FireStar Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Neddy Fox on 26/10/2010 22:21:16 Suddenly.............. .
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:56:00 -
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First I was like "wtf, where's that devblog link"
then I saw it's just Joe Phoenix
I admit, you had me there for a split second
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