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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.10.25 22:51:00 -
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I was wondering how many people hold this attitude toward other players in EVE. Exactly how bitter are the bitter vets?
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.25 22:55:00 -
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I agree you are a better killmail then person -- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Hellsmoke
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Posted - 2010.10.25 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez I was wondering how many people hold this attitude toward other players in EVE. Exactly how bitter are the bitter vets?
Taking a wild guess I'd say around 50-60%
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Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
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Posted - 2010.10.25 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Eugene Spencer on 25/10/2010 22:58:37 "Bitter vets" is a term used by noobs with an inferiority complex, who think it gives their argument some kind legitimacy.
edit: fixed grammar
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.10.25 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Eugene Spencer Edited by: Eugene Spencer on 25/10/2010 22:58:37 "Bitter vets" is a term used by noobs with an inferiority complex, who think it gives their argument some kind legitimacy.
edit: fixed grammar
Does that make me a noob with an inferiority complex?
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deathkiller95
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Posted - 2010.10.25 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez
Originally by: Eugene Spencer Edited by: Eugene Spencer on 25/10/2010 22:58:37 "Bitter vets" is a term used by noobs with an inferiority complex, who think it gives their argument some kind legitimacy.
edit: fixed grammar
Does that make me a noob with an inferiority complex?
Yes
(sure is same*** in here, but at least noone else will get this omgfreeepeenboost!)
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Goremageddon Box
Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla
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Posted - 2010.10.25 23:09:00 -
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bitter noob _______________________ Hottest Character Ever. |
yani dumyat
Minmatar Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.25 23:33:00 -
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The OP makes me wonder if they are devaluing people or overvaluing killmails, never understood either attitude myself.
Undervaluing people before the kill has happened is stupid, some of the strongest friendships I've seen in eve came from a friend of mine randomly ganking a carebear, we're still friends with those bears and they are still supplying our ships 2 years on.
Not sure how you define a person's worth either. Is it by power, influence, wealth or ability to have a laugh on coms? When you say that someone is worth more as a killmail than a person how do you judge that? Why is a killmail so important to you? Are you a sociopath? _______
Trolls and Tribulations A story of eve, trolls, world domination and dogfighting against starlings in a tiny dramiel. |
Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
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Posted - 2010.10.25 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez
Originally by: Eugene Spencer Edited by: Eugene Spencer on 25/10/2010 22:58:37 "Bitter vets" is a term used by noobs with an inferiority complex, who think it gives their argument some kind legitimacy.
edit: fixed grammar
Does that make me a noob with an inferiority complex?
I dunno man... I don't know you. All I'm saying is you're using a term which generalises and makes you look like an idiot.
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Jenny Biomass
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Posted - 2010.10.25 23:57:00 -
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It's a fact of life in eve. Business as usual. For this thread, expect a smattering of "HTFU" from the bored players and total indifference from the rest.
Everyone is out to get you. That's part of the game design.
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lebanski
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Posted - 2010.10.26 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: lebanski on 26/10/2010 00:04:00 http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9174
http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9175
6 destroyers: 6 mil Sec Status: a few hours of 0.0 ratting DJ's pod kill and 1 hour on air emo rage: Priceless
Does this answer the authors question?
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.26 00:13:00 -
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Totally depends on the situation.
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.10.26 03:58:00 -
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I only say that about lowsec afk autopiloters. I like me
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Razor Tuna
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Posted - 2010.10.26 04:12:00 -
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This just in. The achura have smaller feet than any other face. Comming soon in Incarna.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.26 04:33:00 -
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For awhile i was thinking of starting a business in allowing people to blow up my main for the killmails.
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2010.10.26 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: lebanski Edited by: lebanski on 26/10/2010 00:04:00 http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9174
http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9175
6 destroyers: 6 mil Sec Status: a few hours of 0.0 ratting DJ's pod kill and 1 hour on air emo rage: Priceless
Does this answer the authors question?
hmm, you lost a noobship fight, and like the good man that you are you returned to the scene of your defeat, head held hi......oh no, wait a minute, you didn't. you fetched a hurricane to take out another players noobship. And then sat outside the station sending him an evemail apology. Then when you were rightly banned from the EVE-RADIO chat channel by the DJ organising this competition, you made threats of physical violence in the local chat channel.
At that point your whole corp was banned as is pretty much standard practice, so you went home, head held somewhat lower but nonethless happy with your revenge atta....oh no, wait, you didn't do that either. No, you called in 5 friends so that the 6 of you big brave chaps could gank one guy. Don't come in here waving your killmails around pretending that its because you value killmails above people, you are here because you know that you made a complete and utter tit of yourself in front of 360 odd players, all of whom now regard you, your corp and your alliance with pretty much the same level of respect as they would do a paedophile.
Be a man and admit that you didnt like getting beaten, that your ego is so fragile that losing in a noobship fight caused you to go into shock and that your subsequent behaviour shows you to be not only an unworthy pilot, corp mate or alliance member but more importantly a human being. Grow a spine, grow some balls and learn your lesson.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.26 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ishina Fel on 26/10/2010 09:37:34
Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Oh BURN
I usually despise forum drama, but this seriously made my day
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Sjugar
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Posted - 2010.10.26 09:50:00 -
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I have trouble understanding the topic.
Value killmails, value people.
I value every human being.
Eve is a game of shooting spaceships and while some people treat it different to me it is. If I fight someone that's not because I don't like him, but because the game and the choices we made in game put us against each other.
I have respect for all the people who I fight against, because without opponents there would be none. And while the loudmouths on the forums are very vocal, the majority I know isn't shouting on the forums and respects the other players regardless what side.
Ignore those dumbasses shouting "fail-fit" or "fail-alliance" they're not worth anyones time. Just shoot ships and if you see some who needs help (less the optimal fitting), once just once, open a friendly convo and try help him. (And then do it again.)
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Naibasak
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Posted - 2010.10.26 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Naibasak on 26/10/2010 10:18:46 After 3 years of crushing disappointments, getting backstabbed many times over, falling for scams and ploys...
I can proudly say I have learnt nothing.
I still convo noob bait battlecruisers in low-sec and ask their pilots if they are lost, and wish to be shown the way back to empire space.
I will still pay any newbish pilots that try to kill me the cost of their ship and modules, despite insurance.
And I will still lend relatively valuable ships and modules to people I know might not be trustworthy.
The fact I put myself in a position to be scammed, backstabbed and disappointed at almost every available opportunity only enhances the gameÆs experience for me.
Being an un-caring emotionless ennui is as close as this game gets to playing on easy, and I would never allow myself to choose that path.
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masternerdguy
Gallente Valor Inc. Valor Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.26 10:31:00 -
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anyone I don't know is better as a killmail than a person
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Buck Marui
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.10.26 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Aeronwen Carys
Originally by: lebanski Edited by: lebanski on 26/10/2010 00:04:00 http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9174
http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9175
6 destroyers: 6 mil Sec Status: a few hours of 0.0 ratting DJ's pod kill and 1 hour on air emo rage: Priceless
Does this answer the authors question?
hmm, you lost a noobship fight, and like the good man that you are you returned to the scene of your defeat, head held hi......oh no, wait a minute, you didn't. you fetched a hurricane to take out another players noobship. And then sat outside the station sending him an evemail apology. Then when you were rightly banned from the EVE-RADIO chat channel by the DJ organising this competition, you made threats of physical violence in the local chat channel.
At that point your whole corp was banned as is pretty much standard practice, so you went home, head held somewhat lower but nonethless happy with your revenge atta....oh no, wait, you didn't do that either. No, you called in 5 friends so that the 6 of you big brave chaps could gank one guy. Don't come in here waving your killmails around pretending that its because you value killmails above people, you are here because you know that you made a complete and utter tit of yourself in front of 360 odd players, all of whom now regard you, your corp and your alliance with pretty much the same level of respect as they would do a paedophile.
Be a man and admit that you didnt like getting beaten, that your ego is so fragile that losing in a noobship fight caused you to go into shock and that your subsequent behaviour shows you to be not only an unworthy pilot, corp mate or alliance member but more importantly a human being. Grow a spine, grow some balls and learn your lesson.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.26 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy anyone I don't know is better as a killmail than a person
That's the thing, you don't know most people "as a person" but you're sure it can make a killmail.
That said, I think podding is more like killing people, ships is just ships. At least to me it feels that way, I really dislike podding.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.26 10:48:00 -
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I blow up ships to see if it is anything of value in the wreck.
I pod people because of the lovely squishy sound.
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.26 11:04:00 -
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A pod is worth 1 point on a killboard.
A pod is worth up to billions in tears.
You have to kill them all, just in case you get an expensive one.
And you'll never actually know. You just hope.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.10.26 14:52:00 -
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Oh for gods sake, get a grip.
===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
Max Cetera
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Posted - 2010.10.26 15:12:00 -
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OP current value is a cyno-kestrel killmail.
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lebanski
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Posted - 2010.10.26 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: lebanski on 26/10/2010 15:37:20
Originally by: Aeronwen Carys
Originally by: lebanski Edited by: lebanski on 26/10/2010 00:04:00 http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9174
http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9175
6 destroyers: 6 mil Sec Status: a few hours of 0.0 ratting DJ's pod kill and 1 hour on air emo rage: Priceless
Does this answer the authors question?
hmm, you lost a noobship fight, and like the good man that you are you returned to the scene of your defeat, head held hi......oh no, wait a minute, you didn't. you fetched a hurricane to take out another players noobship. And then sat outside the station sending him an evemail apology. Then when you were rightly banned from the EVE-RADIO chat channel by the DJ organising this competition, you made threats of physical violence in the local chat channel.
At that point your whole corp was banned as is pretty much standard practice, so you went home, head held somewhat lower but nonethless happy with your revenge atta....oh no, wait, you didn't do that either. No, you called in 5 friends so that the 6 of you big brave chaps could gank one guy. Don't come in here waving your killmails around pretending that its because you value killmails above people, you are here because you know that you made a complete and utter tit of yourself in front of 360 odd players, all of whom now regard you, your corp and your alliance with pretty much the same level of respect as they would do a paedophile.
Be a man and admit that you didnt like getting beaten, that your ego is so fragile that losing in a noobship fight caused you to go into shock and that your subsequent behaviour shows you to be not only an unworthy pilot, corp mate or alliance member but more importantly a human being. Grow a spine, grow some balls and learn your lesson.
thanks you for you're thoughts on this matter , however, it should be noted:
1) No physical threats were knowingly issued by my corporation or associates, I want to make this abudantly clear and have the chat logs to prove this.
2) I lost the duel yes, however that does not remove the ship being red to me and I am wel within the game mechanics to come back and shoot it. I emphasise this point of it being a game.
3) the loot was returned to enable the pilot to return to his tournament, had a new hull been requested I would have happily supplied one of the many Rifter hull's I have lying about the place (also please note thata rifter is a frigate, not a noobship(reaper), it consists of approximately 2 extra metres of duct tape)
4)I was indeed banned from the channel for my despicable actions. Thats a fair response.
5) the DJ was ganked/trolled by my corp mates in repsonse to banning them on the grounds of my actions. they wern't very happy about this and as such took measures to show you their discontent (what did you expect in a 0.5 system in an unfitted vexor?)
6) Refering to myself or my associates as "paedophiles" is a personal and very very serious allegation and in breach of the EULA. there is a difference between trolling and slander. I also find it very disturbing that someone can relate an interent spaceship game to one of the most vile sadistic and evil crimes on the planet. your ignorance is quite frankly shocking.
7) The DJ's live 1 hour emo rage ON AIR WAS the funniest thing I have witnessed in a very very long time, and I would like to thank him for providing New Eden with quality entertainment while we go about playing this GAME.
8) I would like to also point out that I cheated in the tournament by the very means that I mailed the DJ about prior to the tournament, which he dismissed outright.
I look forward to your reply, have a nice day.
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Atedar Kerane
Silentium Mortalitas
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Posted - 2010.10.26 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: lebanski
1) No physical threats were knowingly issued by my corporation or associates, I want to make this abudantly clear and have the chat logs to prove this.
I'd just like to share that particular log in question:
Quote: [ 2010.10.25 21:40:32 ] Pepper'2025 > RIP OFF UR HEAD AND **** DOWN UR THROAT
Pepper'2025 is in no way affiliated with our corporation.
Some of my corp mates did act like jerks in local chat but there was no threats:
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[ 2010.10.25 21:23:42 ] Allison A'vani > GET PODDED MOTHER ****ER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ 2010.10.25 21:30:38 ] lebanski > trolololololol [ 2010.10.25 21:30:46 ] lebanski > sad face [ 2010.10.25 21:40:17 ] Allison A'vani > U MAD BRO???? [ 2010.10.25 21:40:20 ] Allison A'vani > U MAD??? [ 2010.10.25 21:40:22 ] Allison A'vani > U MAD!! [ 2010.10.25 21:40:24 ] Allison A'vani > U MAD!!!! [ 2010.10.25 21:40:27 ] Allison A'vani > U MAD!!!! [ 2010.10.25 21:40:30 ] Allison A'vani > U MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ 2010.10.25 21:41:52 ] Allison A'vani > U BE MAD BRO!!!! [ 2010.10.25 21:42:24 ] Allison A'vani > COOL STORY BRO!!!!!! [ 2010.10.25 21:42:31 ] Allison A'vani > PLZ do [ 2010.10.25 21:42:36 ] Atedar Kerane > Shut up Allison
I podkilled DJWiggles because he banned me and my entire corporation for something some nutty corp member did.
If I get banned from a channel for no reason, I feel I have to provide a reason, and so I did.
Apart from that I appriciate the effort by EVE Radio I think they are doing a great job :)
Also, what was this thread about again? Oh right, yes, I believe DJWiggles is worth more as a killmail than as a player.
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Calfis
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Posted - 2010.10.26 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: lebanski Edited by: lebanski on 26/10/2010 15:37:20
Originally by: Aeronwen Carys
Originally by: lebanski Edited by: lebanski on 26/10/2010 00:04:00 http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9174
http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9175
6 destroyers: 6 mil Sec Status: a few hours of 0.0 ratting DJ's pod kill and 1 hour on air emo rage: Priceless
Does this answer the authors question?
hmm, you lost a noobship fight, and like the good man that you are you returned to the scene of your defeat, head held hi......oh no, wait a minute, you didn't. you fetched a hurricane to take out another players noobship. And then sat outside the station sending him an evemail apology. Then when you were rightly banned from the EVE-RADIO chat channel by the DJ organising this competition, you made threats of physical violence in the local chat channel.
At that point your whole corp was banned as is pretty much standard practice, so you went home, head held somewhat lower but nonethless happy with your revenge atta....oh no, wait, you didn't do that either. No, you called in 5 friends so that the 6 of you big brave chaps could gank one guy. Don't come in here waving your killmails around pretending that its because you value killmails above people, you are here because you know that you made a complete and utter tit of yourself in front of 360 odd players, all of whom now regard you, your corp and your alliance with pretty much the same level of respect as they would do a paedophile.
Be a man and admit that you didnt like getting beaten, that your ego is so fragile that losing in a noobship fight caused you to go into shock and that your subsequent behaviour shows you to be not only an unworthy pilot, corp mate or alliance member but more importantly a human being. Grow a spine, grow some balls and learn your lesson.
thanks you for you're thoughts on this matter , however, it should be noted:
1) No physical threats were knowingly issued by my corporation or associates, I want to make this abudantly clear and have the chat logs to prove this.
2) I lost the duel yes, however that does not remove the ship being red to me and I am wel within the game mechanics to come back and shoot it. I emphasise this point of it being a game.
3) the loot was returned to enable the pilot to return to his tournament, had a new hull been requested I would have happily supplied one of the many Rifter hull's I have lying about the place (also please note thata rifter is a frigate, not a noobship(reaper), it consists of approximately 2 extra metres of duct tape)
4)I was indeed banned from the channel for my despicable actions. Thats a fair response.
5) the DJ was ganked/trolled by my corp mates in repsonse to banning them on the grounds of my actions. they wern't very happy about this and as such took measures to show you their discontent (what did you expect in a 0.5 system in an unfitted vexor?)
6) Refering to myself or my associates as "paedophiles" is a personal and very very serious allegation and in breach of the EULA. there is a difference between trolling and slander. I also find it very disturbing that someone can relate an interent spaceship game to one of the most vile sadistic and evil crimes on the planet. your ignorance is quite frankly shocking.
7) The DJ's live 1 hour emo rage ON AIR WAS the funniest thing I have witnessed in a very very long time, and I would like to thank him for providing New Eden with quality entertainment while we go about playing this GAME.
8) I would like to also point out that I cheated in the tournament by the very means that I mailed the DJ about prior to the tournament, which he dismissed outright.
I look forward to your reply, have a nice day.
Wow, counter-burn ftw +1
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Grimme Necrofiend
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Posted - 2010.10.26 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aeronwen Carys
Originally by: lebanski Edited by: lebanski on 26/10/2010 00:04:00 http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9174
http://www.gmzsite.com/mode/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9175
6 destroyers: 6 mil Sec Status: a few hours of 0.0 ratting DJ's pod kill and 1 hour on air emo rage: Priceless
Does this answer the authors question?
you are here because you know that you made a complete and utter tit of yourself in front of 360 odd players, all of whom now regard you, your corp and your alliance with pretty much the same level of respect as they would do a paedophile.
Oh dear, and here I was reading and respecting your views & thinking you were making some valid points until you compared an online gaming alliance to child molesters. EVE - it's SERIOUS BUSINESS. Oh wait, it's not - it's just a bit of fun. Grow up, and think before you make stupid comparisons. You're one step away from invoking Godwin's Law.
As for the rest of the topic...killmails.
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