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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.10.24 21:06:00 -
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What PvP ships should NOT be fitted with this module (apart from some frigates). I can't think of any.
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Ejit
Amarr The Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.24 21:22:00 -
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All I can think of is your fully passive tanked Drake and Nighthawk.
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Drykor
Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.10.24 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Drykor on 24/10/2010 21:31:15 Ships in gangs that HEAVILY rely on remote repping may not want those, actual armor resists will help you more than a damage control if they're not too heavily stacked. Though if you can't 100% rely on your remote reppers, a damage control is probably better even then.
Edit: also some ewar ships at range and snipers, obviously.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.24 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Spank on 24/10/2010 23:19:11 Mostly shield ones that have terrible hull ehp or have good enough shield buffers without one that would benefit more from damage mods (3 damage mods, 2 tracking enhancers as a max generally).
Ultimately you are choosing between fitting a dc or extra damage. I can't think of an example where I would fit anything over a dc except for improved dps.....
A common exception is when armour tanking perma tank PVE setups but even then I would personally to use a dc over a second eanm just for those ohshiiiii moments. ~_~
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Jimmy Duce
Navy of Xoc
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Posted - 2010.10.24 23:24:00 -
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DCU 2 on everything unless you are out of cpu. Then fit a meta 3 dcu:D.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.24 23:33:00 -
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I suppose I should have simplified and said start your EFT warrioring with a suitcase and leave it there till the ship is fitted. Only then play around to see if you can live without it or swapping it over gives a significant advantage
Always consider the advantage it gives when your tank breaks and you need to GTFO or survive a little longer.
~_~
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Radcjk
Karmic Asylum Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.10.25 03:45:00 -
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Not many? There's a few fleet inties I don't place it on, because if they're going to die they're going to die, no way around it.
As to every cruiser and above... I don't know? I've either won, or escaped, so many fights in structure that I consider it a quintessential module for nearly every thing.
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Captain Nares
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Posted - 2010.10.25 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez What PvP ships should NOT be fitted with this module (apart from some frigates). I can't think of any.
Any carebear ship Many shieldtank ships. Ninja snipers w/o tank.
Also there are lots of ships which can be gitted with a DCU and may be not. For exanple, I'd personally prefer x2 Gyro x2 TE x1 Nanofiber in vaga lowslots... or even x3 Gyro - x2 TE.
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Beyond Control.
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Posted - 2010.10.25 16:06:00 -
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There are some PvE ships where I have run the EANM II over the DCII. The DCII will generally give you better EHP, but actually lowers your tanking ability on cap stable repped ships.
Outside of passive shield tanks or some frig hulls I see little reason not to run one in PvP. The DCII is the best way to up your ehp in the game. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.10.25 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 25/10/2010 17:23:31 Freighters.
But seriously, most shield-tanked ships can find better stuff to fit there (SPR for PvE, damage or speed mods for PvP). Industrial ships will fit extra cargo space or warp stabs instead. Some armor tanked ships (especially native shield tanks refitted to armor tank) will be better off with an EANM or a specific resist, especially in fleets where hull HP is irrelevant. Small stuff (frigates, destroyers) don't have enough lows to fit a DC. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real! |
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.10.26 11:35:00 -
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In most cases on cruiser hull and bigger, i would fit to most ships. i have a few shield tanked ships that are the exception such as my onyx and curse. I usually fit to drakes and almost always to fleet fits.
I dont fly frigs but i doubt their would be many frig hulls i would fit to as well. To little extra EHP from a dcu. and to few low slots on a frig. OD or such would probably be more useful.
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Inara Tyana
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Posted - 2010.10.26 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Inara Tyana on 26/10/2010 12:41:20 some shield recons and other T2/faction cruisers are entirely viable without DC's. Since in many cases they are sporting LSE's, the ehp increase from a DC is negligible compared to a pds. Edit* dc would be better in most cases, however my point was in many T2 cruisers, the ehp increase is at times not worth giving up a lowslot.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.26 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez What PvP ships should NOT be fitted with this module (apart from some frigates). I can't think of any.
Snipe cerb, maybe?
Rook definitely. I guess Falcon as well.
But any Battlecruiser+ hull should always have a DCU IMO.
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Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.26 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Indeterminacy on 26/10/2010 19:27:22
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: omgfreemoniez What PvP ships should NOT be fitted with this module (apart from some frigates). I can't think of any.
Snipe cerb, maybe?
Rook definitely. I guess Falcon as well.
But any Battlecruiser+ hull should always have a DCU IMO.
cerb no suitcase Reactor Control Unit II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
used this fit for a while, with success. though always have scimis/basis (usually scimis) in fleet. got bombed to hell once by over 9000 bombers. suitcase wouldn't have helped.
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Aranial
Gallente Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:51:00 -
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I never fit one on my Blackbirds.
1600mm plate always works better and other slot is for Sig dist amp II.
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Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
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Posted - 2010.10.26 23:26:00 -
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Curse. Vagabond. Falcon. Rapier.
There may be a few other ones as well.
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fhyuiowauhsipabraphsprai
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Posted - 2010.10.27 01:06:00 -
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ZOMG!! the op is doing something other than trolling!
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VanNostrum
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Posted - 2010.10.27 10:29:00 -
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There is no ship that SHOULD NOT fit a DC, there are ships that MAY NOT fit DC due to the intended fole fitting. Else DC is one of the most vaulable modules there is.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2010.10.27 11:18:00 -
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Drake is not OP Damage Control is OP nerf Damage Control keep drake plz TBH.
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.10.27 12:12:00 -
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Damage control resists don't stack with resists from other modules, which is why they're really good even on active tanked ships.
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Lemmy Kravitz
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Posted - 2010.10.27 17:50:00 -
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Thrashers.... inties... a couple of frigates stealth bomber
anything cruiser class and up I would say DC is a must.
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:01:00 -
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Strategic cruisers. Between their lolworthy structure hit points, lack of shield/armor subsystem bonuses to hull, and the absurd resists that T3 ships have to offer, our favorite T2 suitcase is rarely actually worth bringing along
Fit a HAM-Buffer legion some time. Notice how little the DC2 actually offers compared to a 2nd EANM.
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Wardeneo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.28 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Wardeneo on 28/10/2010 21:29:32
Originally by: Ejit All I can think of is your fully passive tanked Drake and Nighthawk.
lol stealth whine? - im sorry in the current "OMG THERE NERFING THE DRAKE - NO MORE LVL 4'S" situation im assuming any thread with the word drake in it is a whine thread :p lol :)
n tbh its not a drake nerf - its a long needed re-balance ;)
thats all carry on :)
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