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Transporter Ted
Midas Tycho
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Posted - 2010.09.20 11:51:00 -
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I'm looking at messing around in a Legion and rather than lasers I would prefer to use HAM's. I'm not sure how viable this is but please keep in mind that I always fly solo hence liking a repper.
[Legion, HAM Legion] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Domination Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Corelum C-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
613 DPS / 721 DPS OH 1380 m/s / 1946 m/s OH
142,083 EHP (With HG Slaves)
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Riho
Gallente Magnificent Beavers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.09.20 13:23:00 -
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i myself would go 2x plate.. but if you want to use a repper instead... might be fine. dunno how usefull that will be in the long run. ---------------------------------- Fighting for something
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.20 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 20/09/2010 13:33:34 Fitted as that, I would really just get a Drake, man. Heck, I'd get several drakes.
If I ever want to use a Legion it will be as a huge ehp kind of ship like this (or even dual plated is osme situation for extreem ehp):
[Legion, HAM Legion] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Armor Thermic Hardener II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Domination Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Corelum C-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Fulmination Rage Assault Missile
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Less dps, sure, but meh, lot more ehp (and more cap as well, but teh heat sub sys is usefull also).
I can appreicate the lust of Legion + HAMs, but it just don't perform too well imo, not when the Drake exists and can do 600 dps with 80k ehp, with same kind of tackle, for way way way less isk. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Transporter Ted
Midas Tycho
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Posted - 2010.09.20 15:48:00 -
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Thanks for the replies.
Not sure what it is about HAMs that I like, as all I fly at the moment is a sacrilege, typical Dual MAR setup.
Just wanted something Sac like with the Legion... pretty sure I'll lose the ruddy expensive gold plated lurve machine.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.09.20 16:01:00 -
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Looks fine to me. Not sure about the scram, typically for a setup like that I'd use a disruptor but that's just me. The repper shouldn't be a problem, it negates 100-200 dps. If you're going after BC's and HAC's that will negate about 20% of their dps and you still have more EHP than them.
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Grim Marauder
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Posted - 2010.09.20 16:31:00 -
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we all know if want a cheaper with just as good fp just buy a zealot and save a few 100mil :)
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Solomar Espersei
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.09.20 21:19:00 -
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Not sure if you're absolutely married to the HAMs, but putting the Legion into Super Curse mode is fun. Supplement with 3 Heavy Pulse IIs and drones to taste and she's a nice little diversion. Seems to be the best variant for the sorts of work I do with her.
Ninja Extravaganza, Strategies for Ninja Salvagers
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.21 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Solomar Espersei Not sure if you're absolutely married to the HAMs, but putting the Legion into Super Curse mode is fun. Supplement with 3 Heavy Pulse IIs and drones to taste and she's a nice little diversion. Seems to be the best variant for the sorts of work I do with her.
Well now, killing miners and PVE ships needs fairly littel ;)
But Legion would do it well. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Transporter Ted
Midas Tycho
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Posted - 2010.09.21 07:23:00 -
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CurseLegion sounds quite good although I think I'll give the original one a go... when I lose it I'll try the Curse setup.
Cheers all
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Adeena Torcfist
Caldari Dark Underground Forces
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Posted - 2010.09.21 11:15:00 -
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i use a very similar setup to the OP on my Legion, however, i use 2 neuts & Heavy Missiles, minus 1 mid tho. So if it was a 1 v 1, since u need to engage within my neut range with them HAMs, im sure ur MWD plus my neuts would cap out, so its only a matter time on who has the most cap booster charges lol!
but on a serious note, i found Hams not to be that efficient compared to heavy missile launchers. but why navy 800's? u can only fit 1 800 in ur booster, same as the normal 800's.....
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Arbiter Reformed
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.21 11:22:00 -
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100mn ab and a small booster
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.09.21 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Solomar Espersei Not sure if you're absolutely married to the HAMs, but putting the Legion into Super Curse mode is fun. Supplement with 3 Heavy Pulse IIs and drones to taste and she's a nice little diversion. Seems to be the best variant for the sorts of work I do with her.
Legion can't do a "super curse" config. Curse is good because it has a neut range bonus, legion doesn't have that. All it will be is a pilgrim with no cloak, or a pilgrim with no drones and a garbage gun bonus.
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Transporter Ted
Midas Tycho
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Posted - 2010.09.21 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Adeena Torcfist but on a serious note, i found Hams not to be that efficient compared to heavy missile launchers. but why navy 800's? u can only fit 1 800 in ur booster, same as the normal 800's.....
I use Navy 800's as I can fit more in my hold, not many more but they all add up :)
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