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spytoon
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Posted - 2010.08.27 11:48:00 -
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Ninja Salvagers
I ran a few missions in a highsec mission hub a while ago and i noticed that every mission i ran i nice little destroyer would turn up and start salvaging the wrecks.
Question
1. How is that working out for you in isk as a lot of the salvage i get is just scrap metal.
Some missions seems to fill your hold with trit bars and others very little. Is it worth doing or are you just holding out for a big find.
Ninja looters
During the same missions a few people turned up and just started stealing the loot. I said hello to a few of them and when i told them i was not going to shoot them they left straight away as they must have had there kill ship waiting to come back and destroy my mission ship.
Question
1. Are you there to provoke a fight if you are an older character or are you just there to steal if you are a younger character.
thanks for your answers
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.08.27 11:52:00 -
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I hear good ones can collect around 20 gallons of tears per hour in a busy hub.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: spytoon Ninja Salvagers
I ran a few missions in a highsec mission hub a while ago and i noticed that every mission i ran i nice little destroyer would turn up and start salvaging the wrecks.
Question
1. How is that working out for you in isk as a lot of the salvage i get is just scrap metal.
Some missions seems to fill your hold with trit bars and others very little. Is it worth doing or are you just holding out for a big find.
Ninja looters
During the same missions a few people turned up and just started stealing the loot. I said hello to a few of them and when i told them i was not going to shoot them they left straight away as they must have had there kill ship waiting to come back and destroy my mission ship.
Question
1. Are you there to provoke a fight if you are an older character or are you just there to steal if you are a younger character.
thanks for your answers
Mostly younger toons-alts looking to **** you off.Set a trap and fit your ship pvp..when they come instapop em and dock.Easy kill.Make sure to abandon all wrecks so they cant extend agro by shooting them.They fail at pvp anyway or they would be in low sec.
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heheheh
Ecliptic Refuge
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:42:00 -
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They catch alot of people out and get easy kills. The loot is a pittance, and most people would give it away anyway, its a very crappy profession from an ISK earning pov.
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:46:00 -
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not really in it for the isk
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:48:00 -
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Ninja's who do do it for the ISK can make OK ISK. You make great isk while you are doing it, but cant always do it.
As stated, most do it for the tears.
When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
My Postman
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:49:00 -
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Sad to say, but the questions are funnier than all possible answers will be.
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Doravos
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:52:00 -
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Been playing Eve for about 6 months now. Spent most of it missioning in Rens. Only ever happened to me once in all that time.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Trans-Solar Works Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.08.27 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dodgy Past on 27/08/2010 13:08:35 OTOH having a faction / complex / officer fit mission ship aggro you, then being able to come back and kill / loot it can make someone quite a large amount of isk. Strangely enough no one bothers me in low sec.
Just make sure your drones are set to passive so they never accidentally attack a loot thief.
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Tianzi Q'triann
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Posted - 2010.08.27 15:05:00 -
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They are dumb lazy pilots looking for easy kills. After seeing probes on scan and measuring down to a couple AU, I realized I had company coming and cleaned up the wrecks. I moved on to the second room and had all but a few ships left with a couple wrecks. In flys a drake, which is as easy to read as the Bat Signal that its not here to salvage. Let the guy burn 45kms towards a wreck and when the salvager started I popped it then headed on to the next room. Last room had terrible set up for NPCs, they were all over the place and the guy just warped off knowing he wasn't getting any "action" that day . Great waste of 15 minutes of his time after he expected to reach climax from a Vargur killmail and left feeling less of a man with a limp....ego
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Reiaandra Ilin
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.08.28 00:47:00 -
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or how about that we like hearing you whine and ***** and moan about us? or that we just want to kill you? I've done lowsec and I've done 0.0 carebear killin' is relaxing. its like going out hunting with your buddies. Grab a couple brews and shoot some carebears in the face. Laugh when they smack or laugh harder when they shoot.
You guys really give too much credit to how serious you think we take ourselves.
Wherever a carebear shoots a ninja, I'll be there wherever a ninja ganks some carebear in his uninsured faction fit mission boat, I'll be there when you die and concord can just sit there and stare, i'll be there
fly safe space cowboys.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.08.28 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: spytoon Ninja Salvagers
I ran a few missions in a highsec mission hub a while ago and i noticed that every mission i ran i nice little destroyer would turn up and start salvaging the wrecks.
Question
1. How is that working out for you in isk as a lot of the salvage i get is just scrap metal.
Some missions seems to fill your hold with trit bars and others very little. Is it worth doing or are you just holding out for a big find.
Ninja looters
During the same missions a few people turned up and just started stealing the loot. I said hello to a few of them and when i told them i was not going to shoot them they left straight away as they must have had there kill ship waiting to come back and destroy my mission ship.
Question
1. Are you there to provoke a fight if you are an older character or are you just there to steal if you are a younger character.
thanks for your answers
As a former professional ninja looter I was never there to start a fight or to lead the missioner into a trap. I was there to make isk. If a ninja looter knew what they were doing and maximizing their profits they were going after only the large wrecks for salvage and loot. 70 - 80% of the salvage/loot value in missions pre-Tyranis was in the large wrecks. Since the mission loot nerf in Tyrannis, it's kind of pointless to ninja loot now unless the player doesn't yet have the skills or income to do anything more profitable. The nerfs pretty much killed 80% of my ninja loot income. I left ninja looting as a profession. I mulled around for a week seriously considering leaving the game since I enjoyed ninja looting and on a guess put all my isk into those commodities that were produced by NPC before PI took over production of them. I made some pretty hefty profits which catapulted me into part ownership of a POS in w-space ;)
However, ninja salvaging as a less profitable alternative to ninja looting pre-nerf is still a viable profession for low skilled players to earn more isk than they could otherwise.
Chances are those looters that left either got what they came for or were baiting you for a trap. I've jumped into a couple of mission sites where that occurred. It wasn't pretty. Best advice, unless you have friends handy, don't attack the ninjas.
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Silent Killa
Xeno Tech Corp Black Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.28 02:18:00 -
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Rule #1 Always shoot the ninja, if you don't it shows weakness and more will come
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.08.28 03:54:00 -
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Salvaging is a lucrative career but unfortunately, newer players don't have dooshbaggery and asshattery trained high enough to do this well.
Therefore, join the FREE WRECKS channel where there are always mission runners giving away wrecks by the fleet. It's also a good channel to use to stick it to ninjas, for they are losing wrecks they already felt entitled to (based on them being the only ones to claim that nobody is entitled to them - but ninjas are strange that way).
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Durararagi
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Posted - 2010.08.28 05:50:00 -
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Its just cool having tengus, crows and rokh(!?) in your mission when you are flying a raven... (protip, scan for the faction/marauders) There was a crow that stole ships crew and try to ransome me for it. (says something when he knows when the wreck is unlocked and i don't)
I remeber some 3 year char trying to get some pvp in a stabber and couldn't since no one is shooting his stealing ways and he was like taunting over convo. But there again, how do you expect we to engage you if you keep out of scram range at all times? Thats just a point-less thing to do.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.28 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: spytoon Ninja looters
During the same missions a few people turned up and just started stealing the loot. I said hello to a few of them and when i told them i was not going to shoot them they left straight away as they must have had there kill ship waiting to come back and destroy my mission ship.
Question
1. Are you there to provoke a fight if you are an older character or are you just there to steal if you are a younger character.
Confirming that I fell for that one once. It was a Suddenly Ninja and it was a couple of months ago.
But... since I don't cry over my lost ships or my own stupidity, that same day I've set up a Griffin, scanned down one mission runner, took his loot and tried to be as annoying as possible. PvP Raven ready ofc. Guess what happened next.
I only did it once, since I was in a NRDS alliance back then with strict anti-piracy policies. But I can tell you - they are doing it for fun.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.08.28 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Reiaandra Ilin or how about that we like hearing you whine and ***** and moan about us? or that we just want to kill you? I've done lowsec and I've done 0.0 carebear killin' is relaxing. its like going out hunting with your buddies. Grab a couple brews and shoot some carebears in the face. Laugh when they smack or laugh harder when they shoot.
You guys really give too much credit to how serious you think we take ourselves.
Wherever a carebear shoots a ninja, I'll be there wherever a ninja ganks some carebear in his uninsured faction fit mission boat, I'll be there when you die and concord can just sit there and stare, i'll be there
fly safe space cowboys.
You are so cool..can I be your friend?Get a life..no one cares you exist.Im in Paara..feel free to try me.Your name would look good on my alt's kill list.
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Loyo Sett
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Posted - 2010.08.28 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: spytoon Ninja Salvagers
Question
1. How is that working out for you in isk as a lot of the salvage i get is just scrap metal.
Some missions seems to fill your hold with trit bars and others very little. Is it worth doing or are you just holding out for a big find.
I am a minimalist salvager. I fly a newbie ship with only enough skill to mount one salvager. I make plenty of isk simply by flying around asteroid belts. The isk is just a score keeper since I never need to buy anything except for the occasional salvager. My 'score' is around 20m right now. I do it because it's fun and this is the way I like to play the game.
Originally by: spytoon
Ninja looters
During the same missions a few people turned up and just started stealing the loot. I said hello to a few of them and when i told them i was not going to shoot them they left straight away as they must have had there kill ship waiting to come back and destroy my mission ship.
Question
1. Are you there to provoke a fight if you are an older character or are you just there to steal if you are a younger character.
In my earlier days (i.e. a couple of weeks ago) I used to loot. I would fly up to a jet can right next to a hulk and start grabbing stuff. Most of the time they would do nothing. Sometimes they complain in local, or send drones. It was fun to see if I could get away before being popped. If I did I would hop into my new newbie ship and go right back out, more that likely to the same hulk that podded me. When you have nothing to loose, it doesn't matter. Rinse and repeat a dozen times. I don't loot any more because loot stuff tends to fill up my newbie cargo hold really fast, and besides that I don't really find rage tears all that tasty.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.28 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Loyo Sett I am a minimalist salvager. I fly a newbie ship with only enough skill to mount one salvager.
Translation: This is an alt i trained on my main account just to ninja salvage.
I think most ninja salvagers are that way. I was even tempted for a couple seconds once, then that pesky empathy thing kicked in.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Loyo Sett
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Posted - 2010.08.28 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Loyo Sett I am a minimalist salvager. I fly a newbie ship with only enough skill to mount one salvager.
Translation: This is an alt i trained on my main account just to ninja salvage.
I think most ninja salvagers are that way. I was even tempted for a couple seconds once, then that pesky empathy thing kicked in.
Basically true. Just got bored with mining for a while. When I go back to mining I'll be setting all of wrecks BLUE
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kawaii uguu
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Posted - 2010.08.29 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Durararagi But there again, how do you expect we to engage you if you keep out of scram range at all times? Thats just a point-less thing to do.
**** you.
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.29 00:39:00 -
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People should know better than to reply to the alt op shiptoaster with dignity. ~
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Infested Stukov
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Posted - 2010.08.29 01:42:00 -
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Im in it for the tears the isk is just an extra.
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