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Dusica
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.27 11:10:00 -
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l2p Eternal Will. |
Spurty
Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.08.27 11:18:00 -
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Lol classic, think I just found my new empire visit career
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.08.27 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Dusica l2p
GBTW
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Riedle
Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances
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Posted - 2010.08.27 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tobin Shalim This bull**** has gone too far. Now the ninja'ers are going into missions, stealing the mission objective loot (Worlds Collide for an example) and then bugging out, thus causing you to either petition the GM's and lose the bonus, or cancel the mission and lose everything. Can't the devs code it so that only the original person that accepted the mission or those in fleet can open the container?
While we're at it, why not code the gates to only respond to those in fleet. Here, I'll even write it out for you:
If (player NOT in fleet) Do not activate gate Else Activate gate End
Simple, eh? So why not do it?
This is not a single player game HTFU and all that
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ThrudUK
Caldari The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:02:00 -
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@ this thread.
Really, guys, the missions in Eve are rubbish...really monotonous and boring.
I for one love ninjas, all dressed in black and cool, if one turned up in my mission I would be soooo excited!
Be good if we could convince Chuck Norris to visit our missions as well!
oh..and giant robots... they're cool too!
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:22:00 -
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Working as intended, very well documented FFS.
I never turn in worlds collide, I keep the ships crew.
I'm saving it for the next "Does my ship have a crew" thread.
In eve, Ninja is the nword.
When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.08.27 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones In eve, Ninja is the nword.
Sup crazy ninja?
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Tobin Shalim
Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2010.08.27 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Tobin Shalim on 27/08/2010 15:28:13
Originally by: Atedar Kerane
Originally by: Tobin Shalim This bull**** has gone too far. Now the ninja'ers are going into missions, stealing the mission objective loot (Worlds Collide for an example) and then bugging out, thus causing you to either petition the GM's and lose the bonus
Have you actually tried making an "Agent mission in progress" petition? The ones I've made was answered in 5-20 minutes.
Problem solved, you keep the bonus, and you even get to laugh at the theif when he tries ransoming you for the mission loot...
Yes, made one and was answered quickly.
/drumroll.....
Sorry, we cannot reimburse you due to this, game mechanics, working as intended. I **** you not, this was (paraphrased) response from the GM that answered it.
Originally by: Lithalnas
Quote: Tobin Shalim Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge
empire you say? how many people in your alliance pray-tell?
Don't get PA's hopes up, I was missioning for some quick isk to buy a PLEX from Jita so I could move it to Amarr.
/sarcasm (but yes, did need the PLEX)
And to those that say pick a different place to mission out of....that's easy enough to say when you have a choice of other agents to go to. If there's only one high-quality lvl 4 agent to pick missions from for the best payout then you're kinda stuck going there, right? -----
Originally by: Gierling Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.27 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tobin Shalim Yes, made one and was answered quickly.
/drumroll.....
Sorry, we cannot reimburse you due to this, game mechanics, working as intended. I **** you not, this was (paraphrased) response from the GM that answered it.
Good. So the GMs aren't entirely clueless after all.
Quote: And to those that say pick a different place to mission out of....that's easy enough to say when you have a choice of other agents to go to. If there's only one high-quality lvl 4 agent to pick missions from for the best payout then you're kinda stuck going there, right?
àif the "best payout" is constantly being ruined by having people ransoming your mission completion items, it soon becomes "not best", don't you think? And if it's still the best, in spite of that, having the occasional hickup obviously isn't that much of a problemà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Riedle
Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances
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Posted - 2010.08.27 15:34:00 -
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Quote: If there's only one high-quality lvl 4 agent to pick missions from for the best payout then you're kinda stuck going there, right?
Nope that's not correct.
You choose to stay there and then come here and pollute the forums with your whining. That's the reality.
HTFU
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Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
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Posted - 2010.08.27 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts on 27/08/2010 15:58:17 Edited by: Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts on 27/08/2010 15:56:40
Originally by: Tobin Shalim
Yes, made one and was answered quickly.
/drumroll.....
Sorry, we cannot reimburse you due to this, game mechanics, working as intended. I **** you not, this was (paraphrased) response from the GM that answered it.
You act as if there is a surprise here? Especially after the responses in this thread which clearly state that this is intended gameplay?
In case you did not get the memo, EVE is a PvP game, a FULL PvP game, as soon as you log in you are consenting to non-consensual player versus player interaction, which you have now experienced first hand. You have been given your options, if you choose not to take a course of action which will decrease the possibility of such interaction occurring in the future, it is your own fault and you have nobody to blame but yourself.
This is EvE Online, not 'CCP protect me from the bad guys Online'... HTFU, GBTW, L2P, et. al. --------------------------------------------
Quote: EVE-Online... Too rough for ya? Don't like it? GTFO...
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.08.27 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: BrundleMeth on 27/08/2010 16:03:21
Originally by: Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts Edited by: Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts on 27/08/2010 15:58:17 Edited by: Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts on 27/08/2010 15:56:40
Originally by: Tobin Shalim
Yes, made one and was answered quickly.
/drumroll.....
Sorry, we cannot reimburse you due to this, game mechanics, working as intended. I **** you not, this was (paraphrased) response from the GM that answered it.
You act as if there is a surprise here? Especially after the responses in this thread which clearly state that this is intended gameplay?
In case you did not get the memo, EVE is a PvP game, a FULL PvP game, as soon as you log in you are consenting to non-consensual player versus player interaction, which you have now experienced first hand. You have been given your options, if you choose not to take a course of action which will decrease the possibility of such interaction occurring in the future, it is your own fault and you have nobody to blame but yourself.
This is EvE Online, not 'CCP protect me from the bad guys Online'... HTFU, GBTW, L2P, et. al.
And how many people playing this game STILL don't get it? Stupid, stupid whiners...
Mission rewards are a joke anyways...
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Killerjock
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Posted - 2010.08.27 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: BrundleMeth And how many people playing this game STILL don't get it? Stupid, stupid whiners...
Mission rewards are a joke anyways...
But standings aren't and missions are the only way to get standings so far. Understand me from my other posts: i'm not supporting this kind of whine. EVE's like this and either fight or suck it up. I do.
Yet doing away with the FACTION hit when failing a mission would help. Keep corp and agent, multiply those 4 times. But give up on the faction hit unless it's a storyline.
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stankpod
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Posted - 2010.08.27 16:27:00 -
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I think we all agree gate campers, ninjas and OMG play like I do or GTFO people are the turd stains of this game, but you just have to deal.
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Borun Tal
Minmatar Broadsword Combat Systems
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Posted - 2010.08.27 16:36:00 -
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So, you're saying that a single ninja looter outsmarted your FLEET (you mentioned fleet, not me) in a mission?? There's a word for that:
Fail.
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.27 16:40:00 -
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After Apocrypha i got sent to low-sec in level ONE missions. Missions are lonely boring grind, so being attacked was interesting. Usually a gang, sensor damping as they race at me. Never caught once, just warp off, wait 15 or 20. Got the impression these pew-pew folks had no idea of missions or their details, the mission-item thieves must be frustrated mission runners. Best policy, give em nothing, fail the mission, forget it. Their rewards are 1) possible profit and 2) your irritation. Just split. Also, mission hubs attract pinheads. i love this game.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.08.27 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Chopper Rollins After Apocrypha i got sent to low-sec in level ONE missions. Missions are lonely boring grind, so being attacked was interesting. Usually a gang, sensor damping as they race at me. Never caught once, just warp off, wait 15 or 20. Got the impression these pew-pew folks had no idea of missions or their details, the mission-item thieves must be frustrated mission runners. Best policy, give em nothing, fail the mission, forget it. Their rewards are 1) possible profit and 2) your irritation. Just split. Also, mission hubs attract pinheads. i love this game.
Well in lowsec they're not there to ninja your stuff, they're there to **** you...
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.08.27 17:06:00 -
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I just cancel mission and when I get ransomed I told them mission was cancelled already. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 24FEB10
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Urgg Boolean
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Posted - 2010.08.27 17:09:00 -
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I know, I know - ninja looting is a valid profession. But that opinion changes rapidly when a ninja enters your mission.
Personally, "ninja looting" could be made a more legitimate profession if the ninjas have to negotiate with the mission runner for access to the wrecks. Change loot options to allow "abandon salvage" "abandon loot" "abandon all". The mission runner would have the option to abandon whatever the professional salvager has negotiated for. If the professional salvager does not want to pay, the wrecks stay yellow to them and the become red if they salvage or loot. This would create synergy between mission runners and potential professional salvagers, as compared to the current antagonistic relationship. I mean, salvaging is uber boring, and eats up time. If I know I can get some ISK for my wrecks, I may well choose to not spend the time to do the salvaging myself. I'll make less total ISK for the mission, but I palm off the boring job of salvaging to someone willing to do it. Issues of trust between parties are the same as any other transaction in EvE.
Otherwise, the concept of "wrecks are free for all, loot is not" just creates yet another vector for griefing. So my vote is find ways to make salvaging a true profession, like all others, with an associated "cost of doing business". As it is now, ninja looting has no real costs, involves no risk at all, while rewards/profits are potentially huge. This is just wrong in a game like EvE. Talk about Carebear heaven...
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.08.27 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Urgg Boolean I know, I know - ninja looting is a valid profession. But that opinion changes rapidly when a ninja enters your mission.
Personally, "ninja looting" could be made a more legitimate profession if the ninjas have to negotiate with the mission runner for access to the wrecks.
Well it wouldn't be NINJA looting any more, now would it?
Quote: Change loot options to allow "abandon salvage" "abandon loot" "abandon all". The mission runner would have the option to abandon whatever the professional salvager has negotiated for. If the professional salvager does not want to pay, the wrecks stay yellow to them and the become red if they salvage or loot.
Salvage is already abandoned. Abandoning wrecks abandons the loot inside them.
Quote: This would create synergy between mission runners and potential professional salvagers, as compared to the current antagonistic relationship. I mean, salvaging is uber boring, and eats up time. If I know I can get some ISK for my wrecks, I may well choose to not spend the time to do the salvaging myself. I'll make less total ISK for the mission, but I palm off the boring job of salvaging to someone willing to do it. Issues of trust between parties are the same as any other transaction in EvE.
Personally, I already do this. Sometimes I'm lazy, I'll shout out in local (or perhaps the Free Wrecks channel? Never used it myself..) "anyone want to salvage this"? I just ask for a 10% of what they get, which the usually pay, and if not, well, I wasn't going to salvage anyway.
Quote: Otherwise, the concept of "wrecks are free for all, loot is not" just creates yet another vector for griefing.
Welcome to Eve, here's your complementary tissue.
Quote: So my vote is find ways to make salvaging a true profession, like all others, with an associated "cost of doing business". As it is now, ninja looting has no real costs, involves no risk at all, while rewards/profits are potentially huge. This is just wrong in a game like EvE. Talk about Carebear heaven...
No real costs -> Ships to salvage in. Some people use cheap scan frigs, some people use cov ops.
No risk at all -> Salvaging in a mission, you might get shot by rats (ok, not a lot of risk). Ninja looting, you might get shot by the Missioner
Huge profits -> Meh, not really. Go try it. You don't make a whole lot of money. The big money comes from baiting and ganking the expensive deadspace fit CNRs.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2010.08.27 17:19:00 -
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Come to low sec and we won't have to come to high sec. There is no where to hide now.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.27 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Urgg Boolean Personally, "ninja looting" could be made a more legitimate profession if the ninjas have to negotiate with the mission runner for access to the wrecks.
It's already legitimate (from a mechanics standpoint). As for making it "legitimate" in the sense of "honest"à why? That would kind of ruin the whole pointà
Quote: Change loot options to allow "abandon salvage" "abandon loot" "abandon all".
This already exists, btwà
Quote: So my vote is find ways to make salvaging a true profession, like all others, with an associated "cost of doing business".
How much will the mission-runner pay, and to whom? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.27 17:22:00 -
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Ninja looters are an old bit of game content...working as intended.
L2P.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Clan
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SomebodyKickedMyDog
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.08.27 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle
Originally by: Tobin Shalim This bull**** has gone too far. Now the ninja'ers are going into missions, stealing the mission objective loot (Worlds Collide for an example) and then bugging out, thus causing you to either petition the GM's and lose the bonus, or cancel the mission and lose everything. Can't the devs code it so that only the original person that accepted the mission or those in fleet can open the container?
While we're at it, why not code the gates to only respond to those in fleet. Here, I'll even write it out for you:
If (player NOT in fleet) Do not activate gate Else Activate gate End
Simple, eh? So why not do it?
This is not a single player game HTFU and all that
Hot Tasty Fresh Underwear?
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Thrasymachus TheSophist
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Posted - 2010.08.27 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Fixing the Ninja looters will not solve your problem. You see contrary to what society tells us, just because a parent is a criminal does not mean his children will be.
Just because someone comes from a good home does not make them immune to becoming a criminal. So sure Ninja looters can not have children, but they will still loot you, and there will be another group waiting in the wings to take over.
Getting them fixed is not the answer!
Took me a minute, but I lol'd.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2010.08.27 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tobin Shalim
If (player NOT in fleet) Do not activate gate Else Activate gate End
I just noticed that if you didn't put 'End' at the end then you would have an acronym for IDEA. Just have to put:
Boolean All Dim
In front.
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Dryfty
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.27 18:56:00 -
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Suddenly Ninjas... Hundreds of them!
Another satisfied vic... customer.
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Ovar Doce
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.08.27 19:01:00 -
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Coming from a Corporation that has pilots can baiting in high sec belts, this is just righteous.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.08.27 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Mrgwr I'll sell you Ship's Crew x1 for the low price of 9mil.
Or how about this lovely Damsel, personally rescued from the dangers of a jetcan floating in space! She too can be your for the low price of 20mil.
Working as intended.
On the assumption that the thieves offering to sell it to you is "working as intended", otherwise it's just griefing, is it also working as intended if they offer it for 50 billion isk? Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.08.27 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Chesty McJubblies
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Mrgwr I'll sell you Ship's Crew x1 for the low price of 9mil.
Or how about this lovely Damsel, personally rescued from the dangers of a jetcan floating in space! She too can be your for the low price of 20mil.
Working as intended.
On the assumption that the thieves offering to sell it to you is "working as intended", otherwise it's just griefing, is it also working as intended if they offer it for 50 billion isk?
Yes, it is working as intended. They also don't sell it for 50 billion, because they know no one would ever do that. They want to sell it back to you, wtf are you gonna do with a Ship's Crew or some Militants? (tbh I have a few hundred militants, I don't care if you take some..)
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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