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Sempress Kaye
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Posted - 2010.08.25 12:17:00 -
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Hey there,
Been trying to find a resource that shows what factions give what salvage. I'm basically trying to figure out when it's worth my time to take the effort to salvage mission wrecks.
I hear Guristas seem pretty bad whereas Angels and iirc Serpentis are more worth the time.
If anyone has a resource they could direct me to or if someone could be so kind to tell me what salvage to expect from the factions it'll be much apreciated.
Note: im not asking for the entire lists, im merely curious to find out who can drop trit bars, armor plates and the other, more valuable salvage.
Thanks in advance.
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Rath Marr
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2010.08.25 12:47:00 -
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Recently the price of Tripped Power Circuits went up which made the Guristas not as bad as they used to be. Don't know how they stack up on average.
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J Shaft
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.25 13:24:00 -
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Generally Explosive & EM damage dealing NPCs tend to have higher value salvage items, but lower in volume...
So basically you have to try out and see whether or not (higher cost * lower volume) is better than (lower cost * higher volume)...
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vondronage
vondronage Corp
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Posted - 2010.08.25 17:43:00 -
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Go for whatever you can kill the quickest. I generally sell off the two most valuable pieces of salvage I get, and produce rigs with the rest. It all evens out in the long run.
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Moose Burger
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Posted - 2010.08.25 23:39:00 -
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it is never never ever worth the effort to salvage wrecks if you are not in a nightmare/Marauder.
Not until salvage prices up to at least 3-5x
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Naphess Lek
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.26 14:17:00 -
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In my experience Blood Raiders and Angel Cartel give the best salvage.
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Mournful Conciousness
Gallente Special Situations
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Posted - 2010.08.26 14:28:00 -
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Not sure I agree with the above statement.
Here's a way to make salvaging pay (one my corp uses):
Level 4 missions: Pilots: 2+ battleships/battlecruisers + 1 orca pilot alt Orca contains 1 or 2 salvaging ships (6 salvagers + 2 tractors + 3 salvage rigs) Orca fitted with 3 tractor beams (70km range on an orca)
Tactics: combat ships warp in and get aggro, orca follows as wrecks appear, orca tractors them to itself (and if you have time empty the gear into the orca's cargo) once everything dead, the mission host runs back to the agent while one of the BC pilots switches to the dedicated salvager in the orca. This thing then salvages the huge pile of wrecks surrounding the orca and dumps the whole lot into the hangars.
By the time that is done, the mission host has picked up a new mission and you all warp off and do it again.
Oh yes, and if you find you have the wrong tank fitted, no problem - you can use the orca to swap hardeners mid-fight (you have to turn them off first).
Taken hull damage because you forgot to tank explosive damage against angel? No problem - use the orca to swap hull reps into your mids and get fixed up while the cleanup operation is running.
With Damage control + medium hull rep + medium armour rep the orca has something like 120,000 EHP and is pretty impervious to NPC aggression - particularly if the combat pilots kill anything that agresses it. In fact, you could use the orca as an agression target allowing your battleships to be fitted up for more DPS and less tank. This way you can clear the missions in double-quick time.
Oh yes, the orca can field armour maintenance bots or even combat drones to help in the fight.
Doing this, we get through something like 20 missions an evening and make about 200m isk after all said and done.
Salvage is a reasonable chunk of that and since salvaging happens during mission agent conversations, it comes at zero time cost.
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.08.26 14:44:00 -
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I find Bloods and Sanshas give the best salvage. Loads of armour plates, TPC's and melted caps. If you're reading this, you've read too far and now you're on my sig. Concentrate on what I said before you got to this bit. Ok? |
Elbie Klep
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:23:00 -
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I agree that Blood and Angels usually give better loot and salvage on average. However, it really depends on the particular mission, the current markets, and how fast you can run missions. Fortunately the actual loot/salvage is very stable for a given mission over time.
So what I do is always salvage a new mission and make a quick count of a few high priced salvage items and the zydrine/megacite/morphite output from reprocessing everything. I then categorize both loot and salvage as good, average, poor based on those counts. The counts are a surrogate for the market value, which you only need to figure out once to pick threshholds. Then I will only loot/salvage the mission in the future if one is good and the other is no worse than average.
Where one places the threshholds for good, average, and poor depends one one's overall mission running capability. They want to be higher the faster you can run missions because the faster you can run, the more important the fixed LP value becomes. I also periodically check the market to see if the value of the counted items has changed much and adjust the threshholds for that. (So I record the actual counts for each new mission.)
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.08.26 17:08:00 -
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Bloods and Sansha tend to drop Armor plates in decent quantities, along with Burned Circuits. These tend to be very profitable and make Amarr space not a bad location.
Angels tend to drop Alloyed Trit bars which are also a very nice salvage. The do drop armored plates too, but not as much as Bloods and Sansha's.
Gurista, yeah they use to not be as worth it to salvage. However, tripped power circuits which they seem to drop more of, have risen in price from 22k to 75+k. So the salvage is improving there, assuming the market holds.
Drones... honestly yeah they drop the occassional Alloyed trit bar, but well, I find drones are not worth salvaging, unless you are doing it as you run the mission and you aren't spending extra time on it.
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S'Way
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Posted - 2010.08.26 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Moose Burger it is never never ever worth the effort to salvage wrecks if you are not in a nightmare/Marauder.
Not until salvage prices up to at least 3-5x
This ^^^. I don't even bother looting or salvaging when flying with 2 golems. Once you get your skills high enough the rats die much faster than you can salvage, so for me I make more just starting another mission.
Having said that, if you're new to L4's or just started to fly a battleship (so L4's take a long time to run) it might be worth you salvaging bloods, sansha, angels and looting mercs, factions, drones.
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.08.30 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: S'Way I don't even bother looting or salvaging when flying with 2 golems. Once you get your skills high enough the rats die much faster than you can salvage, so for me I make more just starting another mission.
Having said that, if you're new to L4's or just started to fly a battleship (so L4's take a long time to run) it might be worth you salvaging bloods, sansha, angels and looting mercs, factions, drones.
^ This (sort of)
I fly an 1100 dps Paladin and consequently fly through Amarr missions much faster than I can tractor/loot/salvage... but I just can't bring myself to leave the wrecks. It's psychological. I *know* I'd make moar isk if I just handed in and took a new mission, but I just can't do it
S'Way is spot on with what he says though: Loot and salvage Bloods, Sansha and Angels. Only loot Mercs, Factions (although Gallente salvage sometimes yields a few armour plates) and drones.
If you're reading this, you've read too far and now you're on my sig. Concentrate on what I said before you got to this bit. Ok? |
Xentara Vispari
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Posted - 2010.08.30 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Xentara Vispari on 30/08/2010 12:38:53 There is a salvaging database: Salvage Database
I think it has not been updated to the latest patch, but most of the information should still be valid.
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Jerera
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.30 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Elbie Klep and the zydrine/megacite/morphite output from reprocessing everything
You're doing it wrong. A lot of items you loot have a lower reprocessed value. At least sell the meta 4 items, it's easy once you know them. But yeah, you are obviously interested in my post because you're now reading my signature.
My English might be choppy - I'm not a native English speaker. |
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